I personally tend to vape the same way I smoked. I didnt smoke in my house or car and I don't vape in either unless its raining. This allows me to get out in the sunshine and stops me from vaping more than I smoked.
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please state opinions not demands on this matter. IMO if you are sitting at the bar, you prob should ask because its going to be obvious, and the bartender will see you doing it. If you are not sitting at the bar IMO just vape discreetly. I don't vape in stores really or restaurants, but I would never do that with a cig. ban or not but if others are comfortable with it go for it. I have not got a single negative reaction from people who have seen me vaping indoors.
Thats quite a demanding statement to provide only opinions and not demands.
Since its his thread, I believe he can state whatever he wants. I also believe it IS his opinion, since he isnt passing it a law, which would demand we act in a certain way.
He is stating is own view on how he conducts himself in public, which in turn shows his opinion. You either agree, or disagree.
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It is my OPPINION that you all are a trip!
Of course I'm only looking for oppions here. Its not like I'm going to run around spanking those who don't follow my ideas.
Of course I'm only looking for oppions here. Its not like I'm going to run around spanking those who don't follow my ideas.
Whats remarkable is that on April 26th, I PM'd you marcb, and told you I had extended an olive branch in a thread which had been closed, and to please go back and read my post. This olive branch was extended to you in light of the fact that you repeatedly called me names in that thread. Instead of acknowledging said "olive branch", you continue with your less than mature sentiments. I am simply stating that the poster has a right to state just about anything he wishes, especially when he is the thread starter. And your comment above is what you reply with. You are unbelievable. Obviously you wish to ignore my attempt at reaching a truce. Very grown up of you bro. Dispite this, we are on the same team here. Like it or not. (That was another olive branch, btw).
Now, please point me in the direction of the cliff you wish for me fall from.
My best,
-VP
i'm still a sneaky vapor... i figure why give people something else to whine about if it can be avoided
What disturbs me about some of these threads is the "in your face, you can't stop me" type of actions that I read about where people will vape in public just to get a reaction out of others, and then talk about how "dumb" others are because they don't understand what vaping is. Perception, for most, is reality. And if the general public starts looking poorly on those that are going around vaping in people's faces (and don't so in a business is very much being rude - sorry, but it is), then it's going to backfire, and people will begin wanting PV's to be banned as well. Public Relations is important, and I think this thread addressed something that needed to be dressed - etiquette.
I agree. And that involves speaking with people at the business about vaping before actually puffing away. Most people don't know what they are, and the right thing is to explain what it is, and then ask if it's okay. Just puffing away on the PV without permission from the owner/manager is extremely rude. Educate the business, ask for permission, and comply with their decision.
I have always found that even in the most non-smoking of places, the bartenders and managers are very accepting of the ecig... asking first is always best.
Grocery stores, clothing stores etc... I still haven't and don't think I will.
Grocery stores, clothing stores etc... I still haven't and don't think I will.
I've stated before that I believe we should all be "polite cheerleaders" for vaping. I agree that we need to educate establishments on the positive aspects of vaping. When in a restruant or pub, I get the attention of the server or manager and explain in a positive manner what a great device this is, demonstrate it, explain that it emits water vapor not smoke and then ask if it is OK to use it. If I'm in a darkened movier theater, I just vape discretely and have never had a problem.
If a business owner does not want me to vape in their establishment, I will always honor their wishes. What I WON'T do, is just automatically act like I'm still a smoker and just hang out where people smoke. If we do that, WE are saying to everyone, VAPING IS JUST AS BAD AS SMOKING - STAY AWAY FROM US - WE WILL HARM YOU!
Perception is 90% of reality, unfortunately. What perception of vaping do you want to project?
If a business owner does not want me to vape in their establishment, I will always honor their wishes. What I WON'T do, is just automatically act like I'm still a smoker and just hang out where people smoke. If we do that, WE are saying to everyone, VAPING IS JUST AS BAD AS SMOKING - STAY AWAY FROM US - WE WILL HARM YOU!
Perception is 90% of reality, unfortunately. What perception of vaping do you want to project?
Absolutely. Agree with you on this completely. I will not go stand outside by the dumpster and vape. If after asking they will not allow me to eSmoke, I will eat my dinner, have my drinks and be on my way, remembering next time, that I cannot frequent that establishment and enjoy my ecig. No big deal. Their place, their rules, my choice.
I'll usually ask first. I have come across some people who will still say no, and act very rudely towards me about the whole thing. In that case, I will still vape, to show the person that there is no smell and the smoke evaporates rapidly. Once the person sees the harmlessness of the product, they generally lighten up.
I notice that people will still put they're shirts over they're faces or cough rudely towards me if I'm outside in a public area vaping. It's like someone else had posted here previously, it's a psychological stigma. They see you put something to your mouth and then smoke come out, and they're ignorance makes them act ......ed. I won't chase them down and educate them, they only deserve to continue being stupid.
The most important thing is to not be scared or shy about using your cigarette, in fact do the opposite. Be proud and outgoing with it. Most people I have talked to about it are very interested and want to take a look at it and see how it works. I have found that the most effective response about the smoke that comes out is: "it's the exact same as if it were cold outside and your breath was visible". People seem to accept it more when it's related to something familiar to them, and the product becomes less alien and invasive to them, thus letting them accept it all together.
I notice that people will still put they're shirts over they're faces or cough rudely towards me if I'm outside in a public area vaping. It's like someone else had posted here previously, it's a psychological stigma. They see you put something to your mouth and then smoke come out, and they're ignorance makes them act ......ed. I won't chase them down and educate them, they only deserve to continue being stupid.
The most important thing is to not be scared or shy about using your cigarette, in fact do the opposite. Be proud and outgoing with it. Most people I have talked to about it are very interested and want to take a look at it and see how it works. I have found that the most effective response about the smoke that comes out is: "it's the exact same as if it were cold outside and your breath was visible". People seem to accept it more when it's related to something familiar to them, and the product becomes less alien and invasive to them, thus letting them accept it all together.
The vapor that is exhaled contains nicotine in it. It's not like you are just using your reading glasses at all. I don't vape around children because there is nicotine in the vapor that is exhaled. While that nicotine may be a small amount (who really knows?), it is still there.
hmmmm thing is smoking is vastly frowned upon .. and were there is a ban ..and you do someting that resembles smoking (harmless or not) with out any explanation or clearance people are just going to go nuts ...
your statment is like comparing ... getting your bum out in a resteraunt (which is not acceptable) with something less scary like getting your belly out and dancing around going "hooga booga" .. your still going to get thrown out
Do you know scientifically that the nicotine is not absorbed by the user? All the reports I have heard and read about second hand smoke from cigarettes, nicotine was never an issue or concern or even mentioned as a harmful by-product. So why all of a sudden is it now a huge concern? I've seen kids of middle school age chewing nicotine gum. Will they be damaged by this? Why is the FDA allowing consumers to ingest nicotine into themselves through gum, mints, nose spray and inhalers if it going to do harm to people? Did non-smokers who breathed second hand smoke for many years become addicted to nicotine???????
I think the larger point is that we are exhaling something into the air that would not be there if we were not vaping. What exactly is there is not known conclusively so it is best to always be polite about it when in a business and comply with the owner's wishes.
You are, of course, free to only visit those business that are "vaping friendly" but not all will be. As was stated earlier in this thread - perception is reality.............
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