Vapers that love Android and Google Chrome

[The Hill Giant]

constantly no, rooting really isn't that big of an operation, too many people confuse it with the iCult equivalent of jailbreaking.....rooting is, imho, totally different....

a brief explanation: linux is the OS and kernel that android is based off of, and both OS's are open source...meaning you are free to do with the OS as you wish, you can distribute it freely, you can modify it at will....there are no "rules and limitations" as set fourth by apple in iOS, there are absolutely no parameters that need to be followed....

all that being said, having root access just means you have access to protected files and total control of the OS from a kernel level, its not much different from having administrator rights on your windows pc or mac, it was derived as rooting because in linux, the root (or /) is where all commands begin.

much like administrative rights, android grands you superuser rights after you have achieved root access, giving you TOTAL CONTROL over your device, up to and including the ability to modify your radio, your bootloader, your whitelist/blacklist, and of course, the operating system itself.....

under super user, you'll find there are a number of things your device is capable of that you would not have thought before having it, even more than a jailbroken iPhone, and my familiarity with linux just cements my opinion that android is simply the best mobile OS on the planet at the moment.

I've always liked this explanation of developer terminology for new folks:

Your phone is a car.

ROM = The chassis
Kernel = The engine
Theme = The paint job

 

[MrPicC]

I've always liked this explanation of developer terminology for new folks:

Your phone is a car.

ROM = The chassis
Kernel = The engine
Theme = The paint job

Don't leave out the physical hardware of the body... That for most NEW people is the most important.. EDIT.. AND I skipped right passed your first YOUR PHONE IS a car which basically said that.. ... ..

 

[elmattias]

lawls... So it seems sprint is resending out the epic touch ice cream sandwich update with no changes made, EVEN Though it was pulled due to complaints... Since I'm back to stock temporally I am sort of tempted to use their update.. If it sucks I'll go with cm10 and try that out.. I'm just sick of having to downgrade back to el29 to upgrade back to ICS each and every time.... Hopefully once 4.x is finally out there will be no more el29 downgrades and I can just install thru clockwork mod..

elmattias YOU SMOKED ALOT!! Wow..

lol sprint is a fail at releasing OTAs for their phones, the one phone that they had before the evo lte and galaxy nexus that could handle ICS was the evo3d....to this day, the e3d has not recieved the update...however, HTC had released it, sprint has just wrapped it in a bunch of red tape, want proof? go read XDA lol...the only e3d users with ICS are the ones that rooted and got S-OFF early on in the devices lifespan, the second gen e3d came with an update that broke the ability to root with an unlocked bootloader, and the exploit they found out was jumping ports with a paperclip by the battery....seriously.....it makes me glad i kept my original evo instead of upgrading to the 3d, especially seeing as the original evo was one of the most developed phones on the market in it's prime....

now the LTE on the other hand, so far i'm loving this device, i had root on the day the exploit was found...which was about two weeks BEFORE the official release date (thank god for preorders), and recently, S-OFF came down, and we now have total control on the LTE...and have a few big devs working with the device...we already have AOSP and CM10, waiting to see what CM11 is going to bring to the table, until then i'm running meanrom, as mikeyxda has a rediculous update schedule, every few days i get a few more tweaks to play with

as for the epic...i don't know much about it, as my original android device was a samsung moment.....and it scorned me from ever buying from the company again x.x, but i would say not to update through sprint, as most of the OTAs have patches to prevent any currently available root methods from succeeding....

and yes xx, i used to smoke a pack and a half a day, but i vape now, so i'm good lol.

 

[elmattias]

This is exactly why I will only buy nexus devices going forward.

i thought LONG and hard about this, the problem i had with the galaxy nexus: it was a samsung x.x, other than that, it was an extremely hard choice, but settled on the lte because of the experience i had on the OG evo

 

[valcityboy]

I've always liked this explanation of developer terminology for new folks:

Your phone is a car.

ROM = The chassis
Kernel = The engine
Theme = The paint job

Funny, I agree with all except the Theme...that's more like the surround system with the front DVD player with Navigation and the two seat back 7" screens and the laptop holder with the cigarette lighter subbing as two USB sockets (DV carries one of these, and I bought for my truck). I don't have all that in my truck, but you see where I'm going eh? The paint job is more or less the paint job. Heck some people even put custom vinyls on their car, I mean phone...yeah my phones use to look like pimped out Caddy's and then I dropped one in the toilet...it is probably still in that toilet. (a rest stop on I-75 close to Gainesville, FL) Of course that was about 5 years ago, so hopefully someone took it out...didn't want to leave it there, but no gloves.

 

[MrPicC]

Well I'm really just waiting for an official baseband so I know I won't have to redo everything every week.. My android friends told me to wait on the nexus but Knowing it was coming to verizon first( and what a sh^t show that was when it was delayed) I had to jump on the epic touch with the beautiful reviews.. I know better 10+ months later and never again will I buy a samsung device.. From here on out it's nexus only but I'm 14 months from end of contract..
WHat gets me is the crazy amount of roms to test and I just can't pick the right one.. Xda and android central, and rootzwiki has been good friends of mine these past few months.. Luckily my windows partition on my mac works well enough just to run odin since it's stupid hard for me to do console mac side only.. I'm swift but forget quickly..

And battery life. On ics with this phone I'D be on my third battery and possibly charging that right now. Back to gingerbread I'm still only half way thru my second. That's important to me as well as you all prolly

 

[elmattias]

Well I'm really just waiting for an official baseband so I know I won't have to redo everything every week.. My android friends told me to wait on the nexus but Knowing it was coming to verizon first( and what a sh^t show that was when it was delayed) I had to jump on the epic touch with the beautiful reviews.. I know better 10+ months later and never again will I buy a samsung device.. From here on out it's nexus only but I'm 14 months from end of contract..
WHat gets me is the crazy amount of roms to test and I just can't pick the right one.. Xda and android central, and rootzwiki has been good friends of mine these past few months.. Luckily my windows partition on my mac works well enough just to run odin since it's stupid hard for me to do console mac side only.. I'm swift but forget quickly..

well since your a samsung user running an epic, a good place to look for roms would be SDX, as they specialize in samsungs, and to their credit, were VERY good when i did have my moment, as they were the ONLY devs on the web to port froyo over to that piece of trash...also you can run linux and sync up better with any android with a simple live CD, or by adding another partition, as the command line in linux is almost direct to the usb connecting your android device, also most of the time linux users can un-brick devices if they screw up anything...as many of the scripts are written strictly for the native OS

edit: also as a sprint user, the EVO is always an option for you, and from previous experiences, they do baby the evo line at sprint (aside from the e3d debacle)

 

[MrPicC]

OG EVO? no way.. To heavy a device for me.. I've looked on ebay because I did drop my phone and it has a nice break going thru the entire phone but prices for used are to expensive plus I don't wanna get a bad device...
By the time my contract is up the choices will prolly blow the touch out of the water just like everything out now already does...

On a side note: you know when your addicted to tech when the laptop the tablet the phone and 2 egos are on your lap at once...

 

[The Hill Giant]

i thought LONG and hard about this, the problem i had with the galaxy nexus: it was a samsung x.x, other than that, it was an extremely hard choice, but settled on the lte because of the experience i had on the OG evo

Yeah. I love it though. No issues. A small piece of me misses my Incredible, though. I love HTC.

 

[The Hill Giant]

Funny, I agree with all except the Theme...that's more like the surround system with the front DVD player with Navigation and the two seat back 7" screens and the laptop holder with the cigarette lighter subbing as two USB sockets (DV carries one of these, and I bought for my truck). I don't have all that in my truck, but you see where I'm going eh? The paint job is more or less the paint job. Heck some people even put custom vinyls on their car, I mean phone...yeah my phones use to look like pimped out Caddy's and then I dropped one in the toilet...it is probably still in that toilet. (a rest stop on I-75 close to Gainesville, FL) Of course that was about 5 years ago, so hopefully someone took it out...didn't want to leave it there, but no gloves.

I agree. I was going for easy for the new people lol.

 

[elmattias]

OG EVO? no way.. To heavy a device for me..

it was quite a heavy device i will admit this, you'd be happy to know they fixed that problem with the LTE...but still, the OG EVO was an insanely modded device....simply going to xda and searching the evo forums there were literally thousands upon thousands of roms to choose from


also: another reason i chose evo over the nexus:

 

[MrPicC]

lol sprint is a fail at releasing OTAs for their phones, the one phone that they had before the evo lte and galaxy nexus that could handle ICS was the evo3d....to this day, the e3d has not recieved the update...

Sprint EVO 3D finally getting its Ice Cream Sandwich update | Android Central I was just reading it so thought to post...

 

[The Hill Giant]

OG EVO? no way.. To heavy a device for me.. I've looked on ebay because I did drop my phone and it has a nice break going thru the entire phone but prices for used are to expensive plus I don't wanna get a bad device...
By the time my contract is up the choices will prolly blow the touch out of the water just like everything out now already does...

On a side note: you know when your addicted to tech when the laptop the tablet the phone and 2 egos are on your lap at once...

Careful there if you plan on having kids at some point

 

[The Hill Giant]

it was quite a heavy device i will admit this, you'd be happy to know they fixed that problem with the LTE...but still, the OG EVO was an insanely modded device....simply going to xda and searching the evo forums there were literally thousands upon thousands of roms to choose from


also: another reason i chose evo over the nexus:

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Eh. Benchmarks are crap. I do agree that the Evo has better hardware, but my benchmarks are lower on JB than they were on ICS, yet my phone is SOOOOO much smoother and better performing than it was before.

 

[elmattias]

Sprint EVO 3D finally getting its Ice Cream Sandwich update | Android Central

wow lol i'm shocked, however, its too little, too late for the e3d, now that the LTE has come out anyways...

 

[sandybeach]

OK boyz, my eyes just officially crossed.
xoxoxox lub ya all

 

[elmattias]

Yeah. I love it though. No issues. A small piece of me misses my Incredible, though. I love HTC.

the incredible was a beastly little device when it came around, if i'm not mistaken it was the first to feature the 1.0 Ghz snapdragon right?

anywho, no i know the benchmarks are crap comparison when it comes to performance in some dimensions, as it's mostly based on the math power of the processor...the hardware does it for me though, as i know if i hate the latest iteration of senseUI, i can just flash it away....and i don't think i'll have to wait long for JB with xda on my side....until then ICS is rock solid...i remember thinking when GB came out....."how will they ever top this???" then google answered me...everything the company does astounds and intrigues me....

but the bottom line is: android has come a long way, and anyone running GB or higher has a damned fine device in my own opinion, as they're basically all more capable than anything else on the market...

 

[elmattias]

OK boyz, my eyes just officially crossed.
xoxoxox lub ya all

its ok sandy, if you want to join the cool kids club and get root i'm sure one or two of us can point you in the right direction, afterall, most of the root methods these days are one-click scripts

 

[sandybeach]

Compared to my HTC G1, my phone which is already dated, SCH-1510, Samsung Droid Charge, is freaking incredible. Back when it was 1X, I was tethering my iBook to go online -- Wow, compared to that??!

 

[sandybeach]

its ok sandy, if you want to join the cool kids club and get root i'm sure one or two of us can point you in the right direction, afterall, most of the root methods these days are one-click scripts

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