Vapers that love Android and Google Chrome

[elmattias]

Love
Just Skyped with daughter and boyfriend. Boyfriend said "You will brick your phone if you root it".

eh, depends where he was getting his info from i personally have rooted many phones, some for friends, including the infamous "unrootable" motorola droidX...it depends on a number of things, from software versions to what type of help you're getting...its all about finding the right forum....much like we all came here to learn about vaping, we can find places to learn about rooting as well....i think you mentioned you have a samsung, if thats the case, i'd look first into doing some reading on SDX forums to see if they have devs for your device

 

[elmattias]

Love
Just Skyped with daughter and boyfriend. Boyfriend said "You will brick your phone if you root it".

i just ran a quick pass through xda and sdx, developers have abandoned the project for the droid charge, however, roms do exist, which means the primary thing you would need is root....which i found on youtube:

 

[KalebK]

Is there a one click root for the galaxy tab 7.0 plus?

 

[The Doctor]

Okay I gotta stop you about Firefox stealing ideas. Do you remember when Netscape went public? My son was one of the kids that got to compile the code. Netscape went one way, crapping out with AOL, etc. The original guys that developed Netscape went on to found Mozilla. Firefox is Mozilla, the oldest commercial browser around.

That being said, I don't use Firefox on my Mac because Chrome is faster. What I was asking about is Firefox for Android. I just started using it a few days ago when my phone's built in browser died. So far I see it has tabbed browsing, but I really don't need that for my phone. All I care about is being able to use voice command for search, and that is part of Swype's keyboard anyways. Is Dolphin faster than Firefox on Android?

Actually, you're incorrect on two counts. Opera was around before Firefox, 8 years before in fact. Mozilla has been around forever, but comparing Firefox to the original Mozilla is like comparing apples and love seats... Might as well compare chrome to mosaic.

Insofar as stealing ideas: tabbed browsing, opera did it first. Customizable GUI, opera, integrated download manager, opera, integrated email, opera, widgets, opera, add ons, opera, AD blocking, opera, speed dial splash, opera, turbo boosting (packet mitigation) opera... The list goes on. Remember, opera was originally a paid browser (not freeware), and as such had not only more stake in the game, but IMO, better designers. Still does... Their mobile versions stink on ice though... Dunno why.

Dolphin is faster, yes. It has Swype voice integration, as well as built in voice commands and gestures (sonar and gestures), as well as some neat add on packs.

Vaping since: a while
Cigarettes avoided: lots
Money saved: probably not
Devices: Yes
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[The Doctor]

Lot of HTC folks... I love some of HTCs ideas and implementation (dedicated camera chip...brilliant) but by large their devices are bloated and badly made. (one x or raider anyone?) And the 3d stuff makes me lol. The sense ui is gorgeous, but it is such a resource hog... Would love to see them come out with an AOSP device with their hardware... And a removable battery/expandable memory ;p

Vaping since: a while
Cigarettes avoided: lots
Money saved: probably not
Devices: Yes
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[elmattias]

Lot of HTC folks... I love some of HTCs ideas and implementation (dedicated camera chip...brilliant) but by large their devices are bloated and badly made. (one x or raider anyone?) And the 3d stuff makes me lol. The sense ui is gorgeous, but it is such a resource hog... Would love to see them come out with an AOSP device with their hardware... And a removable battery/expandable memory ;p

Vaping since: a while
Cigarettes avoided: lots
Money saved: probably not
Devices: Yes
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the hardware is all that really matters most of the time, AOKP and CM10 remove sense and give you the insane hardware with vanilla android. also, on a note, most (if not all) of their devices pre-One series had removable batteries, which i really don't see a problem with having a non-removable battery when i have a 2000 mAh battery on my LTE that i can underclock and turn off a core on the fly....i think at minimum processor i can probably last a week in standby....as far as removable memory, the LTE features this, and, as a side note: the device unoficially supports 64GB micro SDHC cards, even though the instruction manual only states up to 32GB.

on the 3d: it was a good device for it's time, the 3d was the much-touted feature at the time of it's release, unfortunately it failed in execution...however, it had a monster processor under the hood, as it was one of the first generation of phones to release with a dual-core processor...the bottom line is the thing screamed performance when you tweaked it right...

and finally as for sense: it does suck, no doubt, i hate it, i flash it away as soon as i can, however, i will admit that in the first few weeks i had my hands on the evo LTE, there was no modding going on as the device wasn't "officially" out due to my pre-ordering the device...and sense 4.0 i will admit was trimmed down and less intrusive from the previous versions, now the OG evo that i owned, sense 3 bogged it down to no end, but when i flashed to CM7 for the first time on it, the device could outpace anything of it's era (save for the occasional droidX user)

all that being said, in my opinion, as android is open source, hardware is all that really matters...you can tweak the operating system to your wants/needs as you see fit...

 

[The Doctor]

Agree 100%. And I actually didn't mind sense 4, they really worked hard on it from the aspect of streamlining and tweaking the features that users said they wanted. The evo is a beast of a phone, and beats out the s3 in many ways after it's been modded IMO. The 3d thing was never really cutting edge, it's novel, but it doesn't add anything to the devices function... Can't wait got a holo-phone

As far as badly made goes, it's pretty well known that HTC parts are prone to flop out. I can think of four phones off the top of my head that were/are notorious for their antennae dying, battery cover coming off, Bezel being warped or warping, or chronic, uncontrollable battery drain. I love how they've adapted though... The evo lte and the one series are well made, even if the later has some crucial design errors (sd, battery.) lately though, they are getting really good at matching quality and aesthete. The one series is great looking, and the sensation was gorgeous.

If HTC continues their momentum and listens to the *Android* user base, they are going have uncle Sammy and the fruit guys really scrambling to catch up soon.

Vaping since: a while
Cigarettes avoided: lots
Money saved: probably not
Devices: Yes
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[sandybeach]

i just ran a quick pass through xda and sdx, developers have abandoned the project for the droid charge, however, roms do exist, which means the primary thing you would need is root....which i found on youtube:

Thanks!! Well when my daughter's boyfriend said "you will brick it if you root it", he meant "*YOU* could brick it if you root if if you do one thing wrong".

With Murphy's law being what it is, I would trust myself to find that one little mistake I could make. I don't know enough to root a phone.

I like tinkering with physical stuff I can fix though, that's more my forte. Sinks and toilets and electricity.

And mods. Oh yeah, I like re-soldering loose wires on mods. After that, making sure they are as Sandy-Proof as possible. I'm on a quest to make or even better, to discover the most durable variable voltage mod out there. Features include voltage staying steady until the batteries die and long battery life, even with dual coil cartomizers.

 

[The Doctor]

Bricking is rarely terminal these days. Most devices have de brick protocols you can run. Head over to xda, find your device and read. Then read more. You will be grateful you did...Android doesn't shine until you root.

Vaping since: a while
Cigarettes avoided: lots
Money saved: probably not
Devices: Yes
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[The Hill Giant]

Bricking is rarely terminal these days. Most devices have de brick protocols you can run. Head over to xda, find your device and read. Then read more. You will be grateful you did...Android doesn't shine until you root.

Vaping since: a while
Cigarettes avoided: lots
Money saved: probably not
Devices: Yes
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This. To truly brick a device nowadays, you have to do something really dumb like pull your USB cable halfway threw pushing a new radio to your device.

 

[The Doctor]

Even then it can be fixed more often than not.

Bricking is almost impossible, excepting critical hardware faults these days. Common sense is still required to flash and root of course, but ultimately there are failsafes in case you bone head.

I have literally rooted and flashed devices while using the bathroom...that's how easy it is.

Vaping since: a while
Cigarettes avoided: lots
Money saved: probably not
Devices: Yes
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[KalebK]

No sggestions for an easy root for a galaxy tab 7.0??

 

[sandybeach]

Bricking is rarely terminal these days. Most devices have de brick protocols you can run. Head over to xda, find your device and read. Then read more. You will be grateful you did...Android doesn't shine until you root.

Vaping since: a while
Cigarettes avoided: lots
Money saved: probably not
Devices: Yes
(insert crappy graphic and vendor logo here)

Elmattias said "i just ran a quick pass through xda and sdx, developers have abandoned the project for the droid charge, however, roms do exist, which means the primary thing you would need is root....which i found on youtube:"

If developers have abandoned it, wouldn't it be wise for me not to do it or am I missing something?

 

[The Hill Giant]

Elmattias said "i just ran a quick pass through xda and sdx, developers have abandoned the project for the droid charge, however, roms do exist, which means the primary thing you would need is root....which i found on youtube:"

If developers have abandoned it, wouldn't it be wise for me not to do it or am I missing something?

It just means there wouldn't be any new ROMs or Kernels being developed. It doesn't mean the ones that already exist aren't good and stable.

 

[The Hill Giant]

Even then it can be fixed more often than not.

Bricking is almost impossible, excepting critical hardware faults these days. Common sense is still required to flash and root of course, but ultimately there are failsafes in case you bone head.

I have literally rooted and flashed devices while using the bathroom...that's how easy it is.

Vaping since: a while
Cigarettes avoided: lots
Money saved: probably not
Devices: Yes
(insert crappy graphic and vendor logo here)

I'm glad I'm not the only one that flashes ROMs on the crapper.

 

[sandybeach]

So if I flash it and it breaks within warranty period can I unflash it so it can be fixed?

 

[KalebK]

I feel as though I am being ignored

 

[The Hill Giant]

No sggestions for an easy root for a galaxy tab 7.0??

Have you done any research on XDA, Youtube, or Rootzwiki? Really the only way to learn is to read/watch. It would be impossible for Doctor or I to go through every gory detail involved in rooting and ROM flashing for your device. Not trying to be a ...., but there's just too much information, and every device has its quirks.

 

[The Hill Giant]

So if I flash it and it breaks within warranty period can I unflash it so it can be fixed?

Yes. There should be something in the device forums on XDA about "returning to stock" or something along those lines. You can even unroot the device, although most cell phone carrier employees would never know the difference if you didn't.

 

[KalebK]

Have you done any research on XDA, Youtube, or Rootzwiki? Really the only way to learn is to read/watch. It would be impossible for Doctor or I to go through every gory detail involved in rooting and ROM flashing for your device. Not trying to be a ...., but there's just too much information, and every device has its quirks.

I will check those out, thanks for responding! I downloaded z4 root and it didnt work.