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Vaping at Walmart
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I think blowing it in somebody's face is much worse than just waiting until you're outside. Whether it's a cigarette or a vape or a fart, I don't think it's right to force people to inhale something against their will, and unless they're a huge fan of your super cotton candy juice or whatever, it's probably something they don't want to inhale. It's just a bad representation of how far tech has come. And if you're doing it in a walmart you're just portraying it as something so ultra addictive that you must have it now and can't even wait until you're outside, regardless of who else has to smell it.
When I go to somebody's house I ask if I can use it inside I don't just fill their living room with clouds of strawberry kiwi vapor, because it's rude. So I take that same mentality to the store or in somebody else's car, or wherever. If you want to ask every single person in the walmart if they mind, then go for it. Otherwise, don't you think they have the right to make the same decision you did when you decided you wanted to be exposed to it?
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Because it's not smoking.
If you promote a self imposed indoor vaping ban, why bother to oppose legally imposed bans?
Who said anything about blowing it in someone's face? Seriously, do you think a passing vape cloud indoors is any more harmful or obnoxious than a teen how has doused himself in Axe body spray? Or someone who hasn't bathed in weeks? Or someone holding a really loud cell phone conversation? Part of living in a society is respecting others personal space, but another part is putting up with people's possibly annoying habits.
This is a joke right? If not I hope it is sarcastic. You're thinking is the reason they are passing all these bills. Please stop vaping because you are going to ruin it for the rest of us, do you not get that or are you that simple and don't care about other people. You have obviously have this false sense of entitlement, get a grip your the problem in our group, you want to ruin it for the rest of us don't you
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I'm not opposed to indoor bans, I'm for them. I have no problem with indoor bans whatsoever. I don't want to smell somebody's gross fireball vape while I'm buying cat food at Walmart. Personally I think it's a jerk move to vape indoors. If you can recognize the problem of a person unbathed to the extent of you smelling them at the same level as an axe covered teen, then why can't you see the problem with forcing people to inhale your vapor too? All three are equally as bad, but what is a combination of chemicals that have no long term studies done to see if 2nd hand vapor is harmful. Or first hand for that matter. You don't have to shove it in people's faces to get support. It's actually the other way around. You're against indoor vaping bans right? What's the worst situation for you than... Probably everyone vaping indoors until it's banned, right? See the problem there? Only you want to do it, or a select few. But once enough people do it it'll be a cloudy mess. So then what?
Your first mistake was shopping at China-Mart in the first place... IMHO
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Indoor vaping bans are presumably to protect people from "second hand vapor" right? Scientists at the FDA's own workshops have shown that there is no detectable exposure to "second hand vapor." If it's just about things that people might find annoying or unpleasant, that is way beyond what the government should be enforcing.
Vapers vaping indoors are not the cause for regulation. ANTZ using unfounded fears so that they can push regulation and taxation are the cause. They don't want you vaping period, no matter where you are. In California, indoor smoking bans extend to residences that share a wall with other residences. There is also a bill currently in committee that removes the exemptions for tobacco/vape shops. So, no, I don't think indoor bans are a good thing, and yes, I think vapers who support them are part of the problem.
This is chimerica now. They own our real estate, stock market, debt, jobs... You can't avoid Chinese goods anymore. 20 years ago, sure. But we just aren't manufacturing like we used to.Your first mistake was shopping at China-Mart in the first place... IMHO
Ok. So keep blowing your vapor at people and see how much support you get. You want change? Try being respectful to other people's space and show that you're not just an impatient addict who found a temporary way to skirt the law and get their fix in a walmart at the expense and annoyance of others. Cause believe me, they don't see a justice crusader, they just see a selfish impatient annoying jerk. That's what it looks like, I swear. I know because a few years ago when I was a smoker, I felt that way about people vaping at Walmart. And now it's banned in my state.
I'd rather fight the idea that people can ban something for no reason, or just because they don't like it.
If you actually read any of my posts you'd see that I don't actually "blow my vapor at people" but that's okay, you're obviously one of those people that thinks that you have the right to restrict the behavior of others just because you don't agree with it.
here you are fussing about vaping in stores and prefering people to respect the rights of others, but you went ahead and broke one of ECFs rules, you are no longer respecting the rules... no name calling in forum... actions like what you just did is reasons threads get killed..... take it up a notch and apply it to vaping and you get vaping bans instead of thread kills...
for those of you voicing your opinions too loudly.... you are disrupting my peace in this thread, have some respect for me... keep the obnoxious posts outside...
Well wether you vape or not isn't really going to make ANY difference as far as the legislation goes since people don't get to vote in this matter.
Doing something simply because "it ain't illegal" IS a good way of getting things illegal but beign polite doesn't help either when there's financial gains/losses involved.
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Doing something simply because "it ain't illegal" IS a good way of getting things illegal but beign polite doesn't help either when there's financial gains/losses involved.
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Have you never considered vaping without "blowing your vapor at people. . . " Do you do this? Is that why you think all other vapers are doing this? I'm afraid you are projecting.
Regardless of Subject, Ideal, or Activity,,,, Basic Human Respect, Consideration, and Kindness are either Mutual & Equitable or they cannot and Will Not exist and/or flourish.
If One hopes to Receive, One must cede same to those One expects to Receive from.
That does not necessarily guarantee that Another will feel and reciprocate.
However, it is a Requirement none the less and that Altruism is not sullied or diminished in the least.
One must keep their "Side of the Street" clean and in order without regard to Quid Pro Quo lest One become equally complicit to and guilty of that which One deems as Wrong.
Easier said than done at times; Yes.
Still, it remains a Fact and the Goal of all who truly seek what is "Right".
If One hopes to Receive, One must cede same to those One expects to Receive from.
That does not necessarily guarantee that Another will feel and reciprocate.
However, it is a Requirement none the less and that Altruism is not sullied or diminished in the least.
One must keep their "Side of the Street" clean and in order without regard to Quid Pro Quo lest One become equally complicit to and guilty of that which One deems as Wrong.
Easier said than done at times; Yes.
Still, it remains a Fact and the Goal of all who truly seek what is "Right".
While I personally don't choose to vape in Walmart, or anywhere else that I won't be for long, I think this thread is getting a little overboard. I'm a little fuzzy about teaching respect by calling people names? If your vaping is bothering people, maybe vape elsewhere, but otherwise what's the problem? No one here is advocating for the right to "blow clouds in people's faces"
Vaping indoors can be done respectfully. Be sure it is allowed, and avoid directing clouds at anyone and I don't see the issue.
Vaping indoors can be done respectfully. Be sure it is allowed, and avoid directing clouds at anyone and I don't see the issue.
Also, can we ban Axe and most perfumes indoors? that would be great....
Why would you vape in ....ing Walmart? Can't you put the thing down for the half hour it takes to shop? lol!
I stealth vape most anywhere, and will likely do so as long as I vape. My setup provides a nice plume, but not a cloud. I don't choose to vape around others, as it's my nicotine needs I'm filling. It is really pretty easy to find a place to take a couple pulls without drawing attention to yourself.
The irony of this thread for me is the friend I have who worked in a Walmart warehouse, where he chain vaped for two years and converted some of his coworkers. I am using the mod he gifted me after dropping it off a Walmart hilo hundreds of times.
The irony of this thread for me is the friend I have who worked in a Walmart warehouse, where he chain vaped for two years and converted some of his coworkers. I am using the mod he gifted me after dropping it off a Walmart hilo hundreds of times.
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