vaping breaks,and breaks from vaping.

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this thread is about the "joy" mechanism of the brain, in context of "how often should I vape"?

when ever you have a "need" for somthing, and you satisfy that need ,your brain feels joy.
need for food? eat food? joy!
need for W.C? voiding? joy!
etc...

that's the reason for smoking.
smokers/vapors create a nicotine addiction, that means we create a new "need" for the body, that was not there before ,thus we can have a novel satisfaction process.

that's why non smokers cant understand the urge for nic, since the don't have the need for it.

another fact about satisfaction is, the more you wait for it-the better it gets.
when you are extremely thirsty, even plain tap water will have the most sweetest and satisfying taste...

because as ex smokers, we were used to have a cigarette every hour or so, and having being limited by smoking laws to smoke where we pleased, we had a great satisfaction from cigarettes.
thus, we had to wait for smoking, and that action intensified the smoking urge even more.

another intensifier for smoking, is the bad taste it has, since their is a fine tuning mechanism for "how much I want to smoke" VS "how bad my mouth tastes"... it is very common to finish a cig ,and feeling disgust in the mouth, thus causing another lingering factor until you smoke again.

vaping "solves" most of this issues, thus causing many to "chain vape", until the reach a point where vaping doesn't satisfy you like analogs did, and thus craving to go back to analogs.

other problem with chain vaping, is that you increase the total nicotine intake, and becoming more and more inert to nicotine dosage, that makes those cravings for analogs even worse.


so if you feel that urge, you can follow one of the next steps to solve it:

1- have breaks between your vapes, just like you would have had if it was an analog.
doing so might mean you will need to increase you nic level, since you vape less.

2-chain vape 0 nic level. and have your nic juice when you need it.


following those steps, will create a greater nic fluctuations in your body, leading to a much more enjoyable vaping, less analog cravings and even lower nicotine intake.
 

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Wow, hey... you're a pretty fart smeller... :) I happen to really dig what you're saying there. Will a chain vaper really feel any more satisfaction from vaping if they use 0% nic sometimes? For me much of the satisfaction of vaping comes from the physical act of sucking down the vape and breathing out a cloud of vapor which engulfs anything in my path. That's me - a chain vaper. I think if I used 0% nic most of the time and 2-4% nic on "smoke breaks" much of the satisfaction you are talking about recovering will still be lost because I am still chain vaping. Then I'll get a little dizzy when I vape my increased nic level juices. I will probably experiment a bit, but I think - after 3 minutes of thought - that to truly recover the satisfaction that smoking used to give, for those who were previously barred from smoking for lengths of time, one will need to treat vaping like smoking and only do it when they otherwise would have smoked.

Someone should conduct a double blind study with smokers and vapers to determine the best way for most people to get the most satisfaction from vaping.
 
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Thanks for posting. It makes a lot of sense to me and I'm going to give some of these recommendations a try. I've experienced several life changing events over the last 6 to 8 months and I've felt the overwhelming urge to smoke an analog. After 2.5 years of vaping exclusively, I find myself again in a fight against analogs. I have not given in to it but I am sure that if there had been a smoker around me with a cigarette that I could have bummed I would have caved. Thankfully I work in an office of non-smokers. (There was one smoker when I started there but she has since been converted :toast: I'm struggling this very minute with it. I hope that as I settle in to my "new" life I will get past this without an analog. In the meantime, I'm off to make some 0 mg juice. :). Again, thanks for posting because it was just what I needed to learn. (((Hugs)))
 

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Wow, hey... you're a pretty fart smeller... :) I happen to really dig what you're saying there. Will a chain vaper really feel any more satisfaction from vaping if they use 0% nic sometimes? For me much of the satisfaction of vaping comes from the physical act of sucking down the vape and breathing out a cloud of vapor which engulfs anything in my path. That's me - a chain vaper. I think if I used 0% nic most of the time and 2-4% nic on "smoke breaks" much of the satisfaction you are talking about recovering will still be lost because I am still chain vaping. Then I'll get a little dizzy when I vape my increased nic level juices. I will probably experiment a bit, but I think - after 3 minutes of thought - that to truly recover the satisfaction that smoking used to give, for those who were previously barred from smoking for lengths of time, one will need to treat vaping like smoking and only do it when they otherwise would have smoked.

Someone should conduct a double blind study with smokers and vapers to determine the best way for most people to get the most satisfaction from vaping.



If you really think that there wont be a big difference- than why are you still vaping nic juice?
the only thing that can cause you to believe that,is exactly a product of "over vaping",meaning you already forgot how nicotine satisfaction feels like,since you vape it non stop,and creating a constant nicotine level in your blood.

just for the sake of it- try having 0 nic for a whole day,then have a nic vape.
I can assure you 2 things will happen:

1-you will start craving for nic juice.
2-you will feel a great relaxing sensation when you vape.
 

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Absolutely I intend to give this a go even if just for a day or two. I just wonder.... I will report back after (if/when) I do this. Are you a chain vaper? If so, have you done this? If so, how did your results measure up to your theory?

Yep :-(

I noticed that after vaping with no cravings for analogs, and even not wanting to smoke when offered, I suddenly start craving for cigs.

So I searched for the cause, and the only thing that came in mind, was that I was chain vaping for the past couple of days, earlier to the crave.

so I tried to have breaks, and then encountered the second problem of needing to higher my nic levels.

but it worked really fine, and after a couple of hours the cravings were gone, so I thought if it happened to me, it could happen to others, thus the need to share it here.
 

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This is a really neat theory, not unlike Sarah Silverman's basic "Make it a treat" philosophy (of all good things) when you boil it down. Makes a lot of sense to me, and I think I'll try it sometime.

Not today, mind you- it's juice testing day, and I'm up to my eyeballs in awesome new stuff to hit those nic receptors with over and over and over again.
 
I am down to 6mg or 8mg juice since they dont have a 6 for volcano juice and i love the blue water punch otherwise i am all about vapedudes and they have a 6mg. When I am not getting the satisfaction of chain vaping my flavors it becomes all about the gadgetry of it. Playing around with all my diffrent mods, going from vari volt to high volt. to the start of it all my little inferno bats. Make it a hobby and collect if ya got the budget.
 

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So i bummed an analog from a co-worker last week.

And it tasted really, really nasty. I couldn't take two puffs before i had to put it out.

The physical addiction is gone, and with a few tastes like that the mental addiction is dissipating. I haven't felt a serious need for a cigarette in a while, though when i first got my KGO i would still have one in the morning and after dinner. Soon enough I was able to let that go.

And the nature of vaping seems different to me, too. I can sit through dinner at red lobster with my family without the insistent need to go and have a cigarette, and it doesn't even occur to me to vape either until the car ride home.

For a minute there i felt like i could probably give up vaping entirely too, or ween myself down to low nic pretty easily.

.............. and then i tasted AVE's Gorilla Juice. I'm so hooked.
 

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I've had an increasing desire for a regular cigarette lately. I will heed your advice.
I really don't want to touch an analog after researching all the information on why they are bad. But I still crave now and then, and this is my second attempt at replacing cigarettes with vaping. 23 days in, started June 1.

I'm confident that what you suggested will work. I'll report back later if anyone wants me to :)

ETA: My cravings are pretty strong today, as if I quit smoking cold turkey. The vape is doing nothing for me right now :(
 

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I wish, when I smoke an analog, it tasted bad to me, but it doesn't. I smoked American Spirits for the past 2 years. If I smoke a non-AS cigarette, it is REALLY nasty! Up to 2 years ago I never smoked AS and I wasn't aware that they tasted bad until I had not smoked those other brands for about 6 months.

After vaping for a week with no cigarette, I bought a pack of American Spirits. I smoked it and it tasted really good to me. However, it did nothing for me physically that vaping does not do. It didn't even do anything differently for me mentally. The only difference I noticed was that it tasted different than the flavors I vape.
 
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