Vaping Hypocricy?
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http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...500637-add-me-list-those-getting-screwed.html
You want to know what really funny? As in hilarious?
Air fresheners are almost certainly far more "poisonous" than anything we will ever exhale.
Same goes for scented candles.
Yes, it may be hilarious, but somehow it doesn't make me laugh.
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I was gonna write some more, but p.opus covered all the points:
"God knows I have to deal with the old bag who bathes in cheap purfume, the guy who bathes once a week whether he needs it or not. the guy with the annoying laugh, or the potbellied middle aged guy at the beach in the speedo."
Freedom and liberty does not mean you can't do something because you may mildly annoy someone. If we banned everything that mildly annoys or offends certain people, we would not be left with a whole lot. It's like saying you can't bar b q in your backyard because your neighbor is a vegan and doesn't like to smell burning meat and don't want to second hand ingest dead animals and traces of carbamoxide, oh well. Or maybe the folks on the subway don't like the smell of indian food you brought for lunch, too bad.
"God knows I have to deal with the old bag who bathes in cheap purfume, the guy who bathes once a week whether he needs it or not. the guy with the annoying laugh, or the potbellied middle aged guy at the beach in the speedo."
Freedom and liberty does not mean you can't do something because you may mildly annoy someone. If we banned everything that mildly annoys or offends certain people, we would not be left with a whole lot. It's like saying you can't bar b q in your backyard because your neighbor is a vegan and doesn't like to smell burning meat and don't want to second hand ingest dead animals and traces of carbamoxide, oh well. Or maybe the folks on the subway don't like the smell of indian food you brought for lunch, too bad.
I agree with being courteous but standing for our rights. We are NOT smoking. We all have been conditioned to the anti-smoking way of thinking so the ANTZ believe would should continue with that behavior while vaping, I will not.
We actually had this happen in our neighborhood. A young couple, both school teachers moved in and told all the neighbors that she was pregnant and that the neighbors would need to stop BBQing and smoking in their own backyards! We live less than a mile from Lambeau Field and just laughed at these demands. Considering that with tailgating for the games we knew it was only a matter of time they would move out. After one season in the neighborhood they were gone, gone to teach their child how they saved it's life by moving away from the evil air polluters.
We actually had this happen in our neighborhood. A young couple, both school teachers moved in and told all the neighbors that she was pregnant and that the neighbors would need to stop BBQing and smoking in their own backyards! We live less than a mile from Lambeau Field and just laughed at these demands. Considering that with tailgating for the games we knew it was only a matter of time they would move out. After one season in the neighborhood they were gone, gone to teach their child how they saved it's life by moving away from the evil air polluters.
During the last summer, my neighbor was using a smoker to smoke up some meat.
It was a hot day, and our windows were open.
The wind was blowing all of the smoke directly over the fence and into our yard.
And then it blew straight into our living room, and I mean damn near every single smoke particle.
What did I do about it?
I opened a beer and enjoyed the smell.
And that's all anyone should ever do about something like that.
Or you can close your window, if you are so offended that you can't have a beer and enjoy it.
It was a hot day, and our windows were open.
The wind was blowing all of the smoke directly over the fence and into our yard.
And then it blew straight into our living room, and I mean damn near every single smoke particle.
What did I do about it?
I opened a beer and enjoyed the smell.
And that's all anyone should ever do about something like that.
Or you can close your window, if you are so offended that you can't have a beer and enjoy it.
If I were said neighbor smoking meat, I'd invite you over (as I often do with several of our neighbors) because you know what? Even a 4-5 pound pork shoulder is more than my wife and I can eat before it will go bad. Your analogy is making my hungry, btw.
This is California... we don't mosey around here.Or... you could mosey over and ask them what time you should have the slaw and corn on the cob ready?
Regarding the vaping. I believe that comparing it to perfume and the like, i think is a bit like comparing apples and an elephant.. they are two completely different things, used for different purposes..
I live in the UK and I will go outside to vape, even though I have been told by my boss i can use it inside.. Its out of both habbit, and the fact that if i didn't vape, i wouldnt want someone next to me puffing away at intervals during the day.
When i was a horrible analog smoker, i used to get mildly irritated by a colleague who was yet to introduce me to vaping, when he was puffing away..
I live in the UK and I will go outside to vape, even though I have been told by my boss i can use it inside.. Its out of both habbit, and the fact that if i didn't vape, i wouldnt want someone next to me puffing away at intervals during the day.
When i was a horrible analog smoker, i used to get mildly irritated by a colleague who was yet to introduce me to vaping, when he was puffing away..
I've yet to have one person complain about the acual smell of vapor. Only complaints I have had are the clouds themselves getting blown into them by the wind, but usually when that happens they go "damn that smells good"
The truth is, there will always be a lot of negetivity surround vapes and people who vape, but the ones who complain seem to be ignorant and not educated about what it really is.
In short, a lot of people see it as Smoking: Part 2
The truth is, there will always be a lot of negetivity surround vapes and people who vape, but the ones who complain seem to be ignorant and not educated about what it really is.
In short, a lot of people see it as Smoking: Part 2
And I say comparing vaping to smoking is like comparing apples to elephants.
As far as the work place goes, if the business allows it and someone complains just to complain then I bring Limburger cheese to eat at breaks and lunch, I love the stuff but most don't. Be careful what you wish for is sound advise.
Apologies ! Not for a moment was I intending to compare vaping to smoking, I am very aware they are a completely different kettle of fish !
I like the cheese idea...
Where's the part about my right to keep my large-ish 75 pound dogs? I've had dogs all my life, I would give up vaping in a second, way before I'd give up my dogs, yet it appears that almost every privately owned, as well as publically owned condo / apartment complex does not allow large dogs.
I just made a choice early on in life to fit my lifestyle to having my dogs.
I would do the same thing if vaping were important to me.
As they say, it's a free country. I have stayed all over the nation, in hotels, with my dogs, as well as found plenty of places to live. You have to find them though.
Explain how this is different?
BTW, I bet there are plenty of landlords who vape but don't allow dogs.
(yes, I asked a few too.) Everyone likes to pick and choose their freedoms I guess.These policies affect low-income people more than any other group.
Especially when you consider the "affordable housing" aspect.
As far as I understand it, such people happen to make up the largest percentage of the smoking population.
And I would imagine they also may often not have the ability to pick and choose where they live.
Besides, I thought nicotine use was an addiction, not a choice.
At least that's what they keep trying to tell us.
I guess they don't mind having it both ways.
Where's the part about my right to keep my large-ish 75 pound dogs? I've had dogs all my life, I would give up vaping in a second, way before I'd give up my dogs, yet it appears that almost every privately owned, as well as publically owned condo / apartment complex does not allow large dogs.
I just made a choice early on in life to fit my lifestyle to having my dogs.
I would do the same thing if vaping were important to me.
As they say, it's a free country. I have stayed all over the nation, in hotels, with my dogs, as well as found plenty of places to live. You have to find them though.
Explain how this is different?
BTW, I bet there are plenty of landlords who vape but don't allow dogs.
Is there an array of anti-dog zealots making their living distorting the dangers of dog ownership and dog lodging?
Are there state and local laws prohibiting dogs being allowed to stay in private hotels, even when the owner wishes to permit it?
Are federal agencies targeting dog ownership to eliminate their use as pets citing unknown dog dangers, forcing dog owners to keep more dangerous wild wolves instead?
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