Vaping in Public

[Keeferes]

I'm new to vaping, so my opinion probably does not mean much. I agree, a little common courtesy may go a long way to help re-education and awareness.

Being new is where it actually count's the most IMO. If new folks coming into vaping don't show some restraint and respect, then it won't be long before there won't be new people doing this instead smoking. The dag gum punks and twits will let the regulation wagon run them down and we won't have a safer, cheaper, alternative to anologs. People won't learn what they don't want to know on their own. It's up to each vaper to represent this alternative/hobby in a respectful positive light.

 

[Australe]

I agree with you and have stated this fact to my husband... I really don't see why vaping instead of smoking allows the lack or respect for others around you. That's what I feel it comes down to, respect. Even as a smoker I tried to be thoughtful of other people. Now I'm vaping, while I believe fully that there is less danger involved in second hand vapor as opposed to second hand smoke I don't feel that gives me the right to expose other people to it in places that smoking typically wouldn't be allowed.

 

[Wirezend]

How I feel, NSFW:
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TSjakoZ6u3s

 

[generic mutant]

He is gonna ruin it for everyone with his militant vaping, eh?

Really? WV seems to have a pretty balanced approach here. You may disagree with him on some minor points, but hitting him with the "make enemies for vapers" blast? That's a pretty big stretch, GM.

They can't make you leave a supermarket, Wal-Mart, or Target for wearing a clown suit, either.
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The best outcome we can hope for is the acceptance of "manager's discretion". There is no chance in hell we'll end up in a situation where we can vape anywhere we like (nor, incidentally, is that something I'd want).

The best way to make people want enforced restrictions on vaping is to make manager's discretion unworkable.

Is wv going to create bans on his own? Probably not. But if large numbers of vapers wander around saying "Stuff you" to anyone who asks them to stop, what other outcome can we possibly expect? We're a fraction of an often reviled fifth of the population, and we don't get to dictate terms to anybody.

 

[EddardinWinter]

The best outcome we can hope for is the acceptance of "manager's discretion". There is no chance in hell we'll end up in a situation where we can vape anywhere we like (nor, incidentally, is that something I'd want).

The best way to make people want enforced restrictions on vaping is to make manager's discretion unworkable.

Is wv going to create bans on his own? Probably not. But if large numbers of vapers wander around saying "Stuff you" to anyone who asks them to stop, what other outcome can we possibly expect? We're a fraction of an often reviled fifth of the population, and we don't get to dictate terms to anybody.

He never said anything like that straw man you just set up. He did not say he vapes anywhere he likes, he didn't advocate saying "stuff you" indoors.

Maybe you only read the part you quoted, and jumped to some off-the-wall conclusions from there. Please stop blaming vapers for bans when they vape in a manner that is only marginally more widespread than your own.



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[ETHNiiX]

I agree too. We shouldn't forget that the public is not only adults but children as well. I usually vape in smoking areas only, just a few steps away from smokers. But even they seem to be bothered by it.

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[Revelene]

I agree too. We shouldn't forget that the public is not only adults but children as well. I usually vape in smoking areas only, just a few steps away from smokers. But even they seem to be bothered by it.

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And because of people like you, vaping will ultimately end up being either illegal or regulated by prescription. It just blows my mind that people compare vaping to cigarettes... Heck, I don't even like calling then e-cigs... There is ONLY one thing in common and that is nicotine... That's it! You cannot argue with that as it is fact! Did you know that potatoes have nicotine? Yeah, it does. So do many other vegetables and plants that we consume on a daily basis. The average human consumes more nicotine through these vegetables and plants then anyone could ever possibly get from "second hand" vapor! The ignorance of these facts are just straight up ludicrous. Anything that could possibly be even remotely harmful would be about impossible to transfer second hand. You get worse things from the exhaust of a car driving by... Ban cars! Only drive on highways and push the car through town or near houses! Come on...

Logical thinking these days is just so damn rare...

 

[wv2win]

If I was inside, in an area that this person was responsible for, yes. If I was in the large atrium of an office building, I may not, since I know I would in no way be invading this person's space, especially with the no-odor, minimal vapor I produce. I most likely would move away from the person just to diffuse any potential conflict. If I was outside, even close to a building entrance, I would smile and tell them to stop bothering me.

Often when people quote other posts on the internet they only quote the part they're directly responding to. Hence the ellipsis. Are you new at this?

The implication of your post is that if someone who is responsible for the large atrium of an office building asked you to stop vaping, you'd move away from them and keep doing it. You think that's going to win people over to the cause? Seriously?

In what sense am I treating vaping like smoking, if I vape inside anywhere with the owner's permission, and where I'm not bothering anyone else?

Do you just mean I do it indoors where it is allowed, and not going to annoy people needlessly? Fine then, yes, I treat vaping exactly like smoking. Or rollerskating. Or painting on the walls, yodelling, Elvis impersonating...

There is a difference between responding to a particular part of a person's posts VS cutting out (cherry-picking) a part of the post to change the person's meaning. The latter is what you did, as you well know. You have two problems: you cherry-picked my post to change the meaning and your reading comprehension is lacking.

I clearly stated if I was in an area that "said" person was responsible for, I would stop if requested to. In the large atrium example, I was referring to a random person who just happen to be in the large space and walked over to me. I also stated I "may not", inferring it was situationally dependent and that I would move away from the person (one of the two parts you cherry-picked).

 

[Indigo-Shade]

I was a very considerate analog smoking as much as I could be. Switching to vapers hasn't changed that. I'm thrilled I can "imbibe" in the house, at work, and my local dive bar thinks nothing of it, as half the regulars are vapers. We dont blow vapor in other peoples faces, answer the tons of questions we get. In other settings, I'm a bit more stealthy. It really depends on the venue.

 

[Revelene]

I vape pretty much everywhere... Never once have I had someone say anything negative or ask me to stop. Maybe I'm just fortunate that I live in Kentucky where people stay out of other people's business. I have had people ask me what it was and where I got it... I've even had pot heads ask if you can put herb in it (really never understood why they want to..). I'm sorry but all these prissy people that whine when someone farts gets a bit ridiculous...

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[misswish1]

I admit that I am brand spanking new to vaping. I just don't see why I would change my habits of courtesy and consideration for others,
whether I'm smoking, vaping, swearing or anything else. Just my person opinion...

 

[kevinj6121]

Ok, I'm a new member, lurker would be more exact and that's why this has to go here. I just read through a few posts in the "vaping in public" forum, and to be honest I'm disgusted for a lack of a better term.

First, I'm a long time vaper myself. Moved from analogs and cig-a-likes combined to just e-cigs, pro-tanks, many different models and my go to right now is a AGA-T2 RBA on a Zmax mini. So... I understand.

However, It seems as if many people who posted in the public vaping threads are treating it as "I'm not smoking, therefor I have the right to do it where ever I choose to, and if you don't like it you are ignorant and wrong". Please... give me a break. There are many people with allergies to PG and even more people with sensitivities to smells like in perfumes and, guess what, vapor. Did you guys switch to vaping because you want to get your fix anywhere you want or because it will save your life? I can't even comprehend how someone can vape in the office or on the bus or at the movies right next to non-vapers and than complain about people complaining. You are the one who is exposing other people to something they don't want to be exposed to. Whatever there reason is, it does not mater please respect that. There is a lot of talk about freedom and the right to do what you want, but you are the one who is forcefully restricting other peoples right to clean, nicotine and PG free air.

Anyway, enough ranting. (Mentally preparing myself for the angry replies I will get)

I was always a "considerate of others" smoker anyway and will act the same with my vaping.

 

[Requiem33]

I still don't vape in stores or places that smoking is not allowed. I do however now vape inside my house instead of going outside (it's too cold!!) Sometimes I'll vape in the office but my co-workers around me don't care, but I find I still prefer to go outside even in the cold it gets me away from my desk.

 

[SiL3nTOne]

I am of the mind that so long as i am not offending you in public by vaping or aggravating an allergy then there should be no issue. But i don't do it just to piss people off.

 

[noise21]

i usually vape where smoking is allowed but sometimes i stealth vape,had no complaints so far.

 

[raijen]

I admit that I am brand spanking new to vaping. I just don't see why I would change my habits of courtesy and consideration for others, whether I'm smoking, vaping, swearing or anything else. Just my person opinion...

Yes, mine too.

I still don't vape in stores or places that smoking is not allowed. I do however now vape inside my house instead of going outside (it's too cold!!) Sometimes I'll vape in the office but my co-workers around me don't care, but I find I still prefer to go outside even in the cold it gets me away from my desk.

Vaping inside the house is what I'm most looking forward to!

 

[generic mutant]

He never said anything like that straw man you just set up. He did not say he vapes anywhere he likes, he didn't advocate saying "stuff you" indoors.

Maybe you only read the part you quoted, and jumped to some off-the-wall conclusions from there. Please stop blaming vapers for bans when they vape in a manner that is only marginally more widespread than your own.



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If I was inside, in an area that this person was responsible for, yes. If I was in the large atrium of an office building, I may not, since I know I would in no way be invading this person's space, especially with the no-odor, minimal vapor I produce. I most likely would move away from the person just to diffuse any potential conflict. If I was outside, even close to a building entrance, I would smile and tell them to stop bothering me.

"this person's space". Which person? The person from the previous sentence maybe?

Sounds like he's talking about difference nuances of the same situation - in other words, that the person asking him to stop was "responsible for [the area]"

If he isn't, so much the better. You can't call straw man on a response to a reasonable interpretation of a poorly worded post. (well, *you* can (and do) call straw man on anything... )

 

[doroppu666]

i still remember how much time smoking steals from my work. vaping at work saved those time.


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[Hazewitch]

The only place I go to for vaping and some coffee is my local Starbucks(which,incidentally, has also gone non-smoking) however, I know most of the employees and they dont mind me having a vape....outside that is...I was attempting a vape at barnes and nobles...only to have an employee explain that there is no E-smoking allowed...never knew that..

and so, I basically vape at home....why pick a fight.

perhaps I should build the ultimate Kanger cryogenic tank, large enough for me, complete with 80 years supply of my favorite ejuice being siphoned inside while I wait until the future catches up...or maybe it already has....

 

[risingstar]

I started not long ago, 4 weeks maybe and I vape at work, bus, walking down the street, if anyone asks I can explain or stop, no issues

Happy vaping!!