Vaping in Public
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I first started vaping in 2008, and ended back on cigs when my kits broke and I couldn't replace them in 2009. Finally got back on vape last year, and through the whole time I've smoked/vaped I've always been considerate of others. If I can get away with vaping in public, I will, simply out of convenience. But I'm not going to force it on others if it makes them uncomfortable or ill. A quick walk outside is all it takes to avoid problems.
The only difference between when I smoked and now is that I vape in my house. I keep with my same habit of walking out to the smoking area while at work and get asked a bunch of questions by the smokers about my rig (MVP with Davide Aspire BDC edition). At first, the smell of the analogs bugged me but I'm fine now. Like I said about the questions, they ask about the cost, flavors, if it worked for me (obviously. Multiply the number in my sig by 3) and get blown away by how much I've saved plus that it works. They only know about those cigalikes and complain about it not working for them. I try and educate as much as I can. Time will tell if I help get them off the analogs.
New here and relatively new to vaping, as I'm on day 14 without analogs (I chuckle at that term). My exhaled vapor is pretty minimal, compared to smoke. I'm using an EVOD. Watching some of the YouTube vids and seeing the amount of vapor produced, I could understand someone objecting that isn't familiar with it.
I don't think anybody here sets vaping equal to smoking. The fact that it is different is why we do it. But just because it is not smoking does not mean it can't be bothersome to people.
Edit: You are taking about logic. I don't think there is any logic in your argument that people who vape anywhere they choose to, are OK, but the people who do it with others in mind and try not to bother other people are the reason for banns.
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I could care less if it bothered someone. If I'm not blowing it in anyone's face or near anyone not one should give a crap what I do. Same crap happens when I open carry, some people feel "bothered" by me doing so.. I don't care. I have the right to do so and don't care if some prissy pants gets butthurt over it when it is none of their business. I'm not saying I go around blowing vapor into peoples faces... I'm saying I vape to my own leisure and don't look for permission. If it comes down to a situation where the vapor would even be remotely bothersome (ie elevator or similar) I either move away from them or double inhale virtually eliminating visible vapor production. If asked to stop, it better be the property owner or management or I could care less.
When you care about what some prissy pants whiners cares then you have already lost the battle.
All that said... I have NEVER had a problem and have only received positive feedback.
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My favorite phrase in this vein is "renormalize smoking behavior."
By all means, let's...
By all means, let's...
Sorry, I'm not familiar with the phrase "open carry"? What does this mean? Is it firearm related?
I agree with some of what you say but I try not to Vape around young children or in confined spaces just out of courtesy and not wanting to influence young minds.
"I could care less if it bothered someone". That and the fact that you see it as a battle you are fighting, with non-vapors/smokers I assume, speaks volumes. I can agree with some of what you say. But you do really remind me of that person on the bus calling everyone names when asked to stop. I truly believe that it will be people like you who are responsible, if there ever will be stricter regulation.
That's beautiful! It's also not uncommon, to be embraced in celebration of healthier life choices. Most of the people I've met are crazy happy about it, not only for me, but for their smoking loved ones who they can't wait to share the news with, that they really do work.
On the bus calling people names? Two things wrong with that... I don't ride the bus and I wouldn't be calling anyone any names. The only people I "call names" is close friends and joking around. I don't see how people like me will ever be responsible as, like I said, never once have I ever had an issue with anyone else and vaping.
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My my my....
Here we are, blaming each other for bans. The "vape anywhere" crowd blames the "vape where smoking is permitted" crowd, the "vape where smoking is permitted" crowd blames the "vape anywhere" crowd. Neither are to blame. We can all vape a bit differently from each other. It should not be a bone of contention, but it is, sadly.
The ANTZ make vaping bans, not vapers.
Here we are, blaming each other for bans. The "vape anywhere" crowd blames the "vape where smoking is permitted" crowd, the "vape where smoking is permitted" crowd blames the "vape anywhere" crowd. Neither are to blame. We can all vape a bit differently from each other. It should not be a bone of contention, but it is, sadly.
The ANTZ make vaping bans, not vapers.
Calling people who complain about vaping "prissy pants whiners" and "getting "butthurt" is calling names In my book. I realize now that you would not do that to someones face and that's good. Anyway. I'm glad you are one of the lucky ones who has not been asked to stop, and I hope it will stay that way.
I have never been asked to stop myself. And Like you I have had plenty of opportunity to explain what I'm doing to smokers and non-smokers. But I have witnessed people getting asked to stop and seen both reactions. Stopping and not stopping with different degrees of hostility towards the person asking. Judging form the reaction it seems a lot more likely that someone would sign a petition to ban vaping when the request is met with hostility or refusal. Anyway, EddardinWinter is right, let's not blame each other. Lets try to get the info out and make sure it will stay the way it is now. OK almost everywhere.
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Yes. It means non-concealed carry of firearms.
In many states, they have not corrupted the constitution enough to disallow this.
OK, I can see you are a somewhat level headed person. I like that. I do agree with what EddardinWinter said.. So with that being said let's just vape however we personally see fit. I think the biggest thing is just not to approach any situation with hostility... Which kinda goes for a lot of things in life. Vape on fellow vaper.
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If someone stares at me while I:
A. Drink my beverage
B. Apply my lipstick
C. Pop an aspirin
D. Brush my hair
E. Straighten my slip
F. Tuck in my shirt
G. Fold my newspaper
H. Eat a quick snack
I. Stealth vape
J. And so on
They need to mind their own business, and I tell them just that. They have no right stalking me, judging me, making me feel uncomfortable, leering at me, rudely waiting to pounce for anything they themselves might decide to consider an infraction on THEIR personal space. Get your eyeballs back in your own head.
Hehehe, woke up on my Irish side today methinks. Good for me.
ats self on back:
A. Drink my beverage
B. Apply my lipstick
C. Pop an aspirin
D. Brush my hair
E. Straighten my slip
F. Tuck in my shirt
G. Fold my newspaper
H. Eat a quick snack
I. Stealth vape
J. And so on
They need to mind their own business, and I tell them just that. They have no right stalking me, judging me, making me feel uncomfortable, leering at me, rudely waiting to pounce for anything they themselves might decide to consider an infraction on THEIR personal space. Get your eyeballs back in your own head.
Hehehe, woke up on my Irish side today methinks. Good for me.
ats self on back:
I believe common sense and courtesy play a huge role in this discussion! I vape at work and in my office (I'm the only one in the office so who cares) but if anyone would object I would simply put it back in my pocket until either they left or I did. I anyone is sensitive enough to PG that exhaled vapor would cause a reaction then they have a hard enough time even going outside. My minuscule contribution will most likely not push them over the edge. As far as the smell, the flavor I use are no more offensive than a breath mint or gum as I tend to favor the minty flavors. This should not be a factor for most. I believe it falls more on the uneducated and ignorant (ignorance is not stupidity, there is a difference). When asked I try to share my knowledge and how this cured me from smoking. I have found it raises more questions than controversy. There is always someone that has a loved one that they would like to see quit the analogs. I share that this is the best solution I have found over the many, many years of trying to quit utilizing other avenues. This one worked for me and it can work for others. Just look around in this forum! My 
If someone stares at me while I:
A. Drink my beverage
B. Apply my lipstick
C. Pop an aspirin
D. Brush my hair
E. Straighten my slip
F. Tuck in my shirt
G. Fold my newspaper
H. Eat a quick snack
I. Stealth vape
J. And so on
They need to mind their own business, and I tell them just that. They have no right stalking me, judging me, making me feel uncomfortable, leering at me, rudely waiting to pounce for anything they themselves might decide to consider an infraction on THEIR personal space. Get your eyeballs back in your own head.
Hehehe, woke up on my Irish side today methinks. Good for me.
You do realize that everything on that list except vaping is 100% in your space and people can (and should) just turn away and leave you to it right? Only vaping is going beyond your own personal space and therefore invading theirs.
I thought the purpose of vaping was to stop smoking cigarettes, not to justify being able to get our nicotine in more places. Just my opinion here but saying I can vape in stores, movies etc as long as people either don't know or are not too close to me sounds like entitlement. Do we really NEED nicotine available all the time everywhere we go? Absolutely not. Again just my opinion.
I still vape where smoking is ok don't need to rock the boat, when people see smoke or vapor they go nuts that their health is at risk, so I don't vape there...
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