Vaping is hurting the [other stuff] legalization movement??

[Bramble]

Because apparently it is vaping's fault that some people are misusing the devices to get too messed up to do simple tasks...

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This is a serious problem for the vaping world, never mind that it's really drug users who are hurting the vaping movement - not the other way around. I cannot believe it was framed this way

EDIT: I forgot that the link would be edited because of the URL containing a certain word but if you want to read the article, just go to motherjones.com and search on "How Vape Pens Could Threaten the"

 

[Nermal]

Sure, and women in short skirts are the cause of, well, you know. . . .

 

[Bramble]

Sure, and women in short skirts are the cause of, well, you know. . . .

Yeah. Like we don't face enough anti-vaping legislation and stigmas without giving the ANTZ this kind of fuel.

 

[Vocalek]

I believe that article illustrates how clueless the CDC is regarding what Middle School and High School students are doing. I predict that next year the youth tobacco survey will include a question that uses "vape pens," "hookah pens," and "e-hookahs" as synonyms for "e-cigarettes". But worse yet, the CDC will continue to neglect to ask "what's in there?" regarding the substance being used, and the concentration of that substance. For the past few years, they have assumed that any youth who used an e-cigarette is taking in nicotine. That's probably because they are too ignorant to know that e-cigarettes are readily available in zero nicotine strength.

See also: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/05/b...under-aliases-elude-the-authorities.html?_r=0

 

[Bramble]

I believe that article illustrates how clueless the CDC is regarding what Middle School and High School students are doing. I predict that next year the youth tobacco survey will include a question that uses "vape pens," "hookah pens," and "e-hookahs" as synonyms for "e-cigarettes". But worse yet, the CDC will continue to neglect to ask "what's in there?" regarding the substance being used, and the concentration of that substance. For the past few years, they have assumed that any youth who used an e-cigarette is taking in nicotine. That's probably because they are too ignorant to know that e-cigarettes are readily available in zero nicotine strength.

See also: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/05/b...under-aliases-elude-the-authorities.html?_r=0

I never cease to be amazed at the ignorance.

I would very much like someone to be asking these kids what's in their tanks. But TC probably doesn't want to know that either they are not using nicotine at all (and then what argument do they have?) OR that they are so busy demonizing nicotine that they are failing to detect and address a much more critical issue about drug use.

This is kind of off topic but a whole other issue about what the kids are doing and the stupidity of TC... but they insist on lying to teenagers and saying that vaping is not less harmful than smoking. WHY would smokers migrate in droves to a product that is just as harmful and less effective at delivering nicotine?? These kids aren't stupid, they can search the internet better than most of their parents and teachers can.

From yesterday in our local paper:
Kids sneaking easily concealable e-cigarettes into northern Utah schools

The schools would be better off just banning them on the basis that they are a distraction, the school cannot keep track of what might be in them, and they simply don't belong on school grounds. Because if they are vaping no-nicotine, that's the truth. The insistence that they are more dangerous than smoking or even more dangerous than the energy drinks the kids are walking around with -- is just destroying their own credibility with the teens.

 

[rothenbj]

I believe that article illustrates how clueless the CDC is regarding what Middle School and High School students are doing. I predict that next year the youth tobacco survey will include a question that uses "vape pens," "hookah pens," and "e-hookahs" as synonyms for "e-cigarettes". But worse yet, the CDC will continue to neglect to ask "what's in there?" regarding the substance being used, and the concentration of that substance. For the past few years, they have assumed that any youth who used an e-cigarette is taking in nicotine. That's probably because they are too ignorant to know that e-cigarettes are readily available in zero nicotine strength.

See also: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/05/b...under-aliases-elude-the-authorities.html?_r=0

Very true, but they normalize smoking and may be a gateway to the real thing. Do I have antzspeak down?

 

[IchBinTRS1]

jmo....It is stupid the way some people think but i guess they r entitled to their opinion (as dumb as it may b) I started vaping to get away from cigarettes and all the HARMFUL crap they put in them, with my vaping juice and me making most of my own I know what goes in it and I very seldom use Nicotene ( nothing wrong with it ) to each is own but vaping is still a lot better than smoking cigarettes point blank....jmo ....If they did some research on some of the Energy drinks and what they can clean and do wow they should Ban those

 

[iraqlobster]

Very true, but they normalize smoking and may be a gateway to the real thing. Do I have antzspeak down?

With infinite versatility and a plethora of flavors to chose from, who in the right mind would give up vaping for cancer sticks?

 

[Rickajho]

The problem I have with the CDC relying on surveys of teenagers is what Judge Judy says: "How do you know when a teenager is lying? Their lips are moving."