Vaping...More harm then good? For me yes...Im done!!!!!!
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That is about the best recommendation that could be made. Hopefully Hubby will be okay.
Sammy: Ive heard alot of feedback of negative reactions to butterscotc and cinnamon flavours, just fyi. I get little teeny tiny bumps on my chest, shoulders, face and back. Im scared its the vaping, have tried cutting certain foods, different flavours, all sorts.. Lately its gone down much. I diy and have been on both vg ang pg, sometimes straight up, some times mixed.. Think it was at its worst on mostly pg blend.. Now im on mostly vg and its relaxed much.. I got a vg type from the farmacist, not very thick and used it for a long time. My bumps were extreme.... It got better when i stopped using it... So for me its not just a matter of pg or vg, but where i get it from, cus they vary in thickness, depending on who made it...
Come september ive been vaping a year, it started around the 6 month mark....
Come september ive been vaping a year, it started around the 6 month mark....
You can have mine! I just got 15ML of both Cherry Tobacco and Carmel Tobacco, 18mg strength. I thought I'd give it a try because VG gives more vapor but they are both way too sweet for me. I guess I really am a BWB Casablanca girl all the way.
hoo boy I hope butterscotch doesn't give me a reaction. Thanks for that heads up @MichelleDen I did hear that about cinnamon.
My fear is that when my vg juice arrives, I am going to have the same bad hives reaction as I do to pg.... I guess at that point, I will have to look at the flavors. What else?
My fear is that when my vg juice arrives, I am going to have the same bad hives reaction as I do to pg.... I guess at that point, I will have to look at the flavors. What else?
Your welcome, gotta be as informed as possible right....At one point i was shure it was flavours, so vaped no flavour for a while.. didnt really get noticable changes, and oh boy it was good to use flavour again. I use spearmint, bubblegum and the one called oba oba..
I have come too the sad conclusion its the jiuce in general for me.. I chainvape and its just too much for my body.. Still feel SO much better than when i smoked. I was at the point where i had trouble breathing at night, when i tried to go to sleep. Felt heavy and a lot of work.. It lifted only days into vaping. If only i could dial it down so my skin could clear up..
The vg though isnt hard on the throat like pg is, and it doesnt dry you out as much. Hope something new comes up at some point....
I have come too the sad conclusion its the jiuce in general for me.. I chainvape and its just too much for my body.. Still feel SO much better than when i smoked. I was at the point where i had trouble breathing at night, when i tried to go to sleep. Felt heavy and a lot of work.. It lifted only days into vaping. If only i could dial it down so my skin could clear up..
The vg though isnt hard on the throat like pg is, and it doesnt dry you out as much. Hope something new comes up at some point....
I love vaping but am slowly learning to put it up and just use it when I feel that feeling that I need something.
I smoked two packs a day and I am very glad that vaping came to me a year ago and have not smoked
cigs since. I also still have a few worries about vaping, but it has slowly let me go to no nic. I still cough
once in awhile if I don't drink water, and I have problems with gas building up on my stomach that I never had before
and am sure it is from vaping, as when I do not vape , it goes away. But I feel so good and can breathe
so much better than when I smoked. It may effect some people good, some bad, but I thank God for vaping every day
as I have lost alot of the major health problems I had from smoking. I think with vaping you must go to the guys that
know what they are doing and buy good juices and good products and don't be afraid to let people know if it does
not work for you. Everyone is different and their are good dealers as well as the bad ones, just like in any other business.
You are only 30 years old and I would take my health very serious and good luck to you. I hope all this clears up
and then you will know. If not please go to doctor. God Bless.
I smoked two packs a day and I am very glad that vaping came to me a year ago and have not smoked
cigs since. I also still have a few worries about vaping, but it has slowly let me go to no nic. I still cough
once in awhile if I don't drink water, and I have problems with gas building up on my stomach that I never had before
and am sure it is from vaping, as when I do not vape , it goes away. But I feel so good and can breathe
so much better than when I smoked. It may effect some people good, some bad, but I thank God for vaping every day
as I have lost alot of the major health problems I had from smoking. I think with vaping you must go to the guys that
know what they are doing and buy good juices and good products and don't be afraid to let people know if it does
not work for you. Everyone is different and their are good dealers as well as the bad ones, just like in any other business.
You are only 30 years old and I would take my health very serious and good luck to you. I hope all this clears up
and then you will know. If not please go to doctor. God Bless.
FWIW, I switched to > 90% VG, 5% max flavoring, and feel better. No more dry throat. No longer sleepy. No stomach acid/upset. Frankly, PG is kind of nice, relaxing, but I'm not sure it belongs in e-cigs. I kind of forgot for a bit, because I had some PG premix I liked, but the side-effects came back. Whoops. Back to VG.
Nicotine ? cut down from 48 to under 10 mg/ml. The only reason for still keeping some is almost sentimental. But I no longer scramble to look for the vape, and some of my juices are just VG with a few drops flavoring. I think most people should just get a bottle of VG with a lot of nicotine, say 50 mg/ml, and a big bottle of plain old VG, and a few tiny bottles of flavoring, a few plastic bottles to mix in, and that's it. Cheap, simple, tastes good.
My blood pressure improved a couple months after I started vaping, from 155/100 down to 125/82 most of the time with no beta blockers or thiazides. I know not to go near cigarettes, cigars. I quit THOSE the first day I got a vape stick down at the 7-11. Good riddance.
BTW, can someone point me to people that have a bad reaction to VG? BTW I think it's too small a molecule to be a true "sensitizer" (as in allergy), so what exactly are people experiencing?
Nicotine ? cut down from 48 to under 10 mg/ml. The only reason for still keeping some is almost sentimental. But I no longer scramble to look for the vape, and some of my juices are just VG with a few drops flavoring. I think most people should just get a bottle of VG with a lot of nicotine, say 50 mg/ml, and a big bottle of plain old VG, and a few tiny bottles of flavoring, a few plastic bottles to mix in, and that's it. Cheap, simple, tastes good.
My blood pressure improved a couple months after I started vaping, from 155/100 down to 125/82 most of the time with no beta blockers or thiazides. I know not to go near cigarettes, cigars. I quit THOSE the first day I got a vape stick down at the 7-11. Good riddance.
BTW, can someone point me to people that have a bad reaction to VG? BTW I think it's too small a molecule to be a true "sensitizer" (as in allergy), so what exactly are people experiencing?
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48????? OMG if i vape over 20 i get extremely sick and have to lie down.... I allways stay under 15. The nic level has alot to do with several sideeffects... 48 is extremely unhealthy and ment for diy'ers, that cut it. It comes with ekstra warninglabels saying you do NOT want to get it on your hands in its uncut form... I am very shocked to hear there are people taking it straight up... Wouldnt recommend it.
Bah, humbug. I used to love that 48. My wife still prefers vaping a little at 48 than vaping a lot at 12. Pretty hard to OD on nicotine. Why is it so "extremely unhealthy"? What exactly are you worried about?
In any case I'm happy at 0-10 mg/ml now.
In any case I'm happy at 0-10 mg/ml now.
Everyone is different and needs to find what works for them. As a general rule, I think more PG than VG is better, but if you do better with VG, it's better than smoking. As for nic level, the same - what works for you !
It's a pity there is no one size fits all, but there most definetely is not; it's a pain that one must work it out, but that's how it is, but it doesn't take too long.
Smokig was a complex cocktail that we did for various reasons; and people seemngly react dirrently to PG and VG; some may never be able to take to nic only e-liquids, but many can. It's an enormous step forward for most people, even if not as straightforward as we'd like.
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Ron Paul, 2012
It's a pity there is no one size fits all, but there most definetely is not; it's a pain that one must work it out, but that's how it is, but it doesn't take too long.
Smokig was a complex cocktail that we did for various reasons; and people seemngly react dirrently to PG and VG; some may never be able to take to nic only e-liquids, but many can. It's an enormous step forward for most people, even if not as straightforward as we'd like.
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Ron Paul, 2012
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Dude you can OD on caffeine too.... if consumed in big enough portions.. Heart attack. I tried 36 once. 2-3 puffs and got so dissy i had to lie down, i was laughing about it but then my heart started pounding like it would pop out my chest. It took several minutes before it relaxed again.. Man it was nasty... Didnt you know nicotine can do that? Or maybe you just like that feeling? Or have a strong heart...
OF COURSE, we know all that, but there's no point in scaring people, like they HAVE to handle 48mg nicotine with a hazmat suit.
...and just like caffeine or alcohol everyone has a different level of tolerance.
Kinabaloo, a propos, where do I find the most succinct and technical statement for a professional of where we stand with the "missing alkaloids" issue? Extraction from tobacco with sep funnel, solvents, salt<->freebase etc - are people happy with the end-product? Is that what they call WTA? Does anyone offer it? Are indoles shown to be present? Wading through kitchen recipes and debates is hard if you are short on time.
Fernand,
Aroma is getting close to releasing a WTA liquid for public use. You can read about it here.
Aroma is getting close to releasing a WTA liquid for public use. You can read about it here.
PLEASE change that post to ' more harm THAN good!!" its ok, just drives me crazy, as a teacher, to see it everyday!!
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