Vapor Flask V3 DNA40 Clone thread
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Looks the same. Email Focal and see. Personally, I'd keep sending love to 3FVape, and not get too hung up on a $3 price difference.
3FVape, Kangxin #1659 through #1662 (silver, black, red, blue).
The alternative models 2806 and 2834 from 3FVape in silver and black are really tempting because of the closer to 1:1 exterior with brushed finish and different buttons, and according to 3FVape they're using the same board inside as the Kangxin, but as mentioned a few dozen times in the thread, the 510 connector is totally non-adjustable.
Croak, you sure about the same board? This is a email I got from Kate on March 4th, I'm still in contact with 3fvape on our VF with the button issue. So I might ask her again in our next email.
1. This product come with another factory with a similar chip as KXD40
2. The 510 connection is a fixed connection.
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Kate
I'm just going by what Tpat posted, which I also believe was from Kate. Confuzzled.
When all the eCig stuff is made in one city I would be willing to bet you can't tell for sure just by looks. I would also suggest if the guy down the street makes all the Flask cases and two or three doors down are to different folks making boards and two or three door farther down a couple of different folks make 510 connectors it is a crap-shoot when it comes to the difference between two so similar devices especially while the demand is so extreme.
I love the look of the 2807 and 2834.
I bet that someone would find a way to replace the inner pin with something better. It can't be that hard. If it's threaded, an OCD connector center pin can be used without problems (they have both a spring version and a adjustable version)
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Tony
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I bet that someone would find a way to replace the inner pin with something better. It can't be that hard. If it's threaded, an OCD connector center pin can be used without problems (they have both a spring version and a adjustable version)
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Tony
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When all the eCig stuff is made in one city I would be willing to bet you can't tell for sure just by looks. I would also suggest if the guy down the street makes all the Flask cases and two or three doors down are to different folks making boards and two or three door farther down a couple of different folks make 510 connectors it is a crap-shoot when it comes to the difference between two so similar devices especially while the demand is so extreme.
HolmanGT,
Totally agree on the crap-shoot, that's what makes these clones hard to buy. Once a few of us get a good run, the rest of the people on the fence on the clones scramble trying to find the same one. We ordered ours right before CNY, took 8 days from 3FVape and I was dealing with a Gina. Right after CNY Kate stepped into her place and emails between us slowed way down and she was pushing the new clone on me when I asked about getting another clone with the same chip (KXD40).
Then Gina sent me an email just the other day and said sorry I was late getting back with you after 2 weeks responding with Kate, So i'm not sure who is really who over there or if I'm really speaking with a Gina or a Kate...lol Gina seemed to be extremely honest in my prior emails before I pulled the trigger on the VF, I asked her about the VS clone they had on their site and she told me at that time the chip was bad and the quality was bad. So they delayed the VS clone and where looking at another factory.
Luke
New video with some testing on the non-usb vapor flask clone. Unfortunately, I can't understand a word of what this guy is saying.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9Eg9mSOVLw
Temperature limiting testing at the 25 min mark.
Voltage/Power testing at 16.45
The flask seems to fail a little, but again not sure what's going on. My impression is the reviewer is happy with the product, but who really knows!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9Eg9mSOVLw
Temperature limiting testing at the 25 min mark.
Voltage/Power testing at 16.45
The flask seems to fail a little, but again not sure what's going on. My impression is the reviewer is happy with the product, but who really knows!
Is it just me or are every reviewers finger nails just gross? I will have to get the wife to watch this and see how her German is.
Luke
I emailed 3Fvape the other night asking for clarification but have yet to hear back:
Just a few more questions to Clarfy:
1) We tested 2806/2834 Version 3 for one week before we ship. Our products experts used those mods very heavily everyday. I also joined the activity to be a heavy vaper. We won't ship products out until we feel good. So, yes, we think they are ready for customers.
Since you personally know the answer, I am aware that “Kangxin” had made revisions to the chips programming during the manufacturing run to minimize Wake to fire Delays, Time to Sleep Mode, and to suppress the Temperature Protect screen display when the feature is active while in use. The fact that the same chip is employed does not necessarily mean that those revisions are imbedded in the chips from a programming standpoint if the same chip is installed by a different “maker” of the flask. Were all these feature revisions carried over to the new flasks?
2) Do you feel that an incremental upgrade to a reliable adjustable 510 pin in the near future is a realistic possibility? I would say that's possible. But I don't think that will happen in next quarter. You know that the life circle of a mod is quite short. Those manufacturers are pursuing new products now, instead of adjust their products per clients' requests. We have talked to Kangxin and Sunlay regarding that though. Unfortunately, they don't have plans to move yet.
I realize that it is not these companies highest priority to upgrade to a Reliable Floating Spring Loaded 510 Center pin especially for an individual, however there is a very strong sentiment in the community that if a Clone is advertised as a 1:1 Clone as this one has been for so long during development that without the floating center pin it simply does not qualify as a 1:1 Clone without the feature. I can think of at least twenty individuals who have expressed the sentiment that while they would love to order this unit, their principals dictate they will not until it is equipped with the feature. Since many who have expressed this were early adopters of the “Kanxin” units they do not feel the need to buy a second unit immediately, but they would if the feature was present. Your company, as the only major reseller at this time carrying their product enjoy an enormous amount of influence with the manufacturer’s and their future plans. We as a community would appreciate it if you could ask them again to redesign to include this feature on future manufacturing runs and to provide “Aftermarket Upgrade Kits” for separate sale so early adopters of these units (& Kangxins) may retrofit their existing units to include the feature.
Just a few more questions to Clarfy:
1) We tested 2806/2834 Version 3 for one week before we ship. Our products experts used those mods very heavily everyday. I also joined the activity to be a heavy vaper. We won't ship products out until we feel good. So, yes, we think they are ready for customers.
Since you personally know the answer, I am aware that “Kangxin” had made revisions to the chips programming during the manufacturing run to minimize Wake to fire Delays, Time to Sleep Mode, and to suppress the Temperature Protect screen display when the feature is active while in use. The fact that the same chip is employed does not necessarily mean that those revisions are imbedded in the chips from a programming standpoint if the same chip is installed by a different “maker” of the flask. Were all these feature revisions carried over to the new flasks?
2) Do you feel that an incremental upgrade to a reliable adjustable 510 pin in the near future is a realistic possibility? I would say that's possible. But I don't think that will happen in next quarter. You know that the life circle of a mod is quite short. Those manufacturers are pursuing new products now, instead of adjust their products per clients' requests. We have talked to Kangxin and Sunlay regarding that though. Unfortunately, they don't have plans to move yet.
I realize that it is not these companies highest priority to upgrade to a Reliable Floating Spring Loaded 510 Center pin especially for an individual, however there is a very strong sentiment in the community that if a Clone is advertised as a 1:1 Clone as this one has been for so long during development that without the floating center pin it simply does not qualify as a 1:1 Clone without the feature. I can think of at least twenty individuals who have expressed the sentiment that while they would love to order this unit, their principals dictate they will not until it is equipped with the feature. Since many who have expressed this were early adopters of the “Kanxin” units they do not feel the need to buy a second unit immediately, but they would if the feature was present. Your company, as the only major reseller at this time carrying their product enjoy an enormous amount of influence with the manufacturer’s and their future plans. We as a community would appreciate it if you could ask them again to redesign to include this feature on future manufacturing runs and to provide “Aftermarket Upgrade Kits” for separate sale so early adopters of these units (& Kangxins) may retrofit their existing units to include the feature.
Can anyone with a hana/clone or cloupor dna 30 take a pic of them together to distinguish the size difference? I am on the fence about the size of these, I have never seen one in person and I love the size of my Cloupor dna 30 box. Thanks in advance.
Last thing I would want in w/a TP mod is a spring loaded 510. Personally, the only adjustable 510 I would be interested in is one that screwed in/out w/LH threads. Anything else will be a guess for fit and/or conductivity.
Maybe so but I look at a spring loaded 510 as another problem point when using Ni TP builds, and is really a concession for those who can't be arsed to properly adjust a LH threaded 510 pin to get good connection that won't be an issue- or at least much less likely that a spring loaded 510. What the originals were built like is one thing but bring the cloned factor into the equation and I just believe it's a recipe for problems. Of course YMMV and I may be in the minority- but that's okay too.
Well, I ordered the 3FV #2834 (silver) today. They are claiming a 1 to 3 day shipping time, for it. We'll see how that goes. My mutation X v3 has an adjustable pin and my sub tank has a spring loaded pin, so I should be fine with the fixed pin on the flask. I initially was going to order the black but there is a note urging us to go for the silver for faster shipping times. Plus I realized I can just get a carbon fiber jwrap if I have to have my black. The 1:1 case is a big deal for me. Because lets be honest, it's all about going to the vape shop or con and making people think you have the real deal. Friends can know the truth though. lol
I'm with you on this and also think the LH threading would be best. LH does though carry with it it's own problems though mainly user error and finding a replacement.
I'm good with LH or RH. If one was using Kanthal/ Nichrome only the spring loaded would be just fine. Solid can be good if it is truly that way(not with Ego grommet).
I want the atty sitting flush, not so much just for the look but for the support that it give the threaded part.
I also prefer ss threads in the 510 socket with brass/copper center pin, Screwing/unscrewing a ss atty quickly wears the brass/copper 510 threads.
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I think it depends of the spring loaded pin design. Some might be better, some might be worse. I have one here that is massive even compared to the OCD one and I did a bunch of tests with my erlp nano and that thing is rock solid as the atty compresses the pin almost 2mm inward. I just didn't test it under TC yet because my damn enclosure is still stuck in customs (for two weeks now)...
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Tony
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I agree RH threads would be okay, just as long as the thread pitch was different than the 510. IIRC there were a few mods or maybe it was attys that had the same pitch so the pin would follow the atty as it was screwed into the 510, effectively making it nearly useless.
Anyway I'm not saying a spring loaded 510 wouldn't work- just that a cloned mod w/TP might not be the best application for one. Now, if the cloners understood the importance of a good connection between the mod and atty and designed their spring loaded 510 w/that in mine, it could work fine.
Anyway I'm not saying a spring loaded 510 wouldn't work- just that a cloned mod w/TP might not be the best application for one. Now, if the cloners understood the importance of a good connection between the mod and atty and designed their spring loaded 510 w/that in mine, it could work fine.
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I think it depends of the spring loaded pin design. Some might be better, some might be worse. I have one here that is massive even compared to the OCD one and I did a bunch of tests with my erlp nano and that thing is rock solid as the atty compresses the pin almost 2mm inward. I just didn't test it under TC yet because my damn enclosure is still stuck in customs (for two weeks now)...
Regards
Tony
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Can it be easily serviced periodically, it should need a cleaning once in a while similar to a mechanical's button? Then there's the added cost for a "good" one.
Just saying.
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