Vapor Flask V3 DNA40 Clone thread

[Nibiru2012]

The Fat Daddy V3 Shorty is probably the best bet for brand name spring loaded stainless 510's, with the shortest depth. The drip well/top plate is 15.5mm in diamter, same size (and same connector for that matter) as the authentic V1.0 and 2.0 so it looks good on the flask.

It's also 2mm thick, just what it needs to be to sit flush with the top of the flask, and that 15.5mm diameter top plate also means you won't have to use a washer on the outside to deal with Kangxin's enormous 510 hole (somewhere around 14mm in diameter).

Thank You Croak for the very informative reply, it's most appreciated.

So it must be the part labeled as: V3 Short Body Set @ $4.99

Would you happen to know how stiff the inner spring is by any chance? I've emailed the Fat Daddy but he never told me about the spring stiffness as I requested.

 

[Croak]

Sorry, don't know how stiff it's rated, but I do know that it's an electrically isolated spring, there's no current passing through it, just the center pin, so in theory the spring itself shouldn't be a resistance variable, as long as it's strong enough to keep the center pin in contact with the atomizer.

My Varitube isn't super stiff, I don't feel any spring resistance at all when attaching an atty, and I expect that to be the same for the FDV V3, since both use about the same diameter and length spring with about the same amount of travel inside the connector.

There's a limit on how stiff these things can be, since they're essentially held in place with a brass cap screwed onto fine pitch plastic (Delrin) threads.

 

[Croak]

Lol, I just noticed something looking at the Waideacig VF web page.

In the example pic they have, showing the difference between the authentic V1/V2/V2.1 Flasks, the V2 they show is Phil Busardo's, based on the serial number.

Phil wouldn't be happy about that, with his stance on clones.

 

[Tpat591]

That sounds awesome! Thanks for posting it. EDIT: I see now it was a PM. Maybe she's just not had time to write it up? I'm guessing if she wrote all that info it's because she wanted people to know, not just you. But yeah maybe you should double check with her if it's OK.

I did check in with her and although I don't really understand what occurred recently on another forum, I apparently made the correct decision in removing the quote. She did give me permission to convey in my own words what her feedback was but I'm not sure I'm up to the challenge at this time. It is a shame really as I know we all certainly value her opinions as expressed.

 

[AnsonJames]

Maybe it is distortion in the pic but looks like hot glue up by the positive pin board. Would they use that on a sled?

Definitely solder.

 

[Tpat591]

Thanks for the update. I ordered one on 3/14 but it just shipped today 4/1. Not sure why the shipping was delayed.

Does it have zip charging and built-in wireless charging as advertised? Also curious about the reverse battery buzzer although I wouldn't want you to try it.

I just checked the Waidea Times Website for this product and these features are listed there.

 

[TheotherSteveS]

probably going over old ground here but I can't remember where on this massive thread it was discussed...So remind me what the deal with refinement on the kangxin flasks, specifically the copper/brass adjustable 510 with usb charging version. Does it or doesn't it do refinement. Mine certainly doesn't seem to. I have tried two different atties (magma and mephisto), with with builds around 0.2 ohms and neither have shifted resistance at all so far...

 

[Croak]

I just checked the Waidea Times Website for this product and these features are listed there.

Well, reading the Waidea Vapor Flask features, they're verbatim with the authentic feature list from VapeRev's site. It's just copy-paste. Imagine the rDNA40 clone got the same treatment. Big grain of salt.

probably going over old ground here but I can't remember where on this massive thread it was discussed...So remind me what the deal with refinement on the kangxin flasks, specifically the copper/brass adjustable 510 with usb charging version. Does it or doesn't it do refinement. Mine certainly doesn't seem to. I have tried two different atties (magma and mephisto), with with builds around 0.2 ohms and neither have shifted resistance at all so far...

Mine never seemed to do refinement. Which is a good thing in my book, Evolv's heart was in the right place, but the implementation was more problematic than it was worth.

 

[TheotherSteveS]

Well, reading the Waidea Vapor Flask features, they're verbatim with the authentic feature list from VapeRev's site. It's just copy-paste. Imagine the rDNA40 clone got the same treatment. Big grain of salt.



Mine never seemed to do refinement. Which is a good thing in my book, Evolv's heart was in the right place, but the implementation was more problematic than it was worth.

Thanks Croak. I thought this was the cased. For me, I'm changing atties quite often so I guess it all gets reset anyway. The new Evolv chip/firmware has the 'atty lock' function now which strikes me as a tacit acceptance that refinement is a bit of over-engineering!
Anyway, have to say I am loving the TC. It has worked flawlessly for me on the VF clone! Hope it keeps going and doesn't croak (no pun intended!)

cheers

steve

 

[dwcraig1]

I'm still thinking of using 20 gauge solid wire for the four larger wires. But may not. Last night I say to my son "do you want to learn how to maintain a soldering iron's tip and learn how to solder"? "No" was his answer (15yr old) So I proceeded to clean a re-tin the tip on one of my irons and tinned the ends of a few pieces of 18 and 22 gauge stranded. Switches came yesterday, board arrives today, FTV parts coming tomorrow. I want my Flask.

 

[tchavei]

I'm still thinking of using 20 gauge solid wire for the four larger wires. But may not. Last night I say to my son "do you want to learn how to maintain a soldering iron's tip and learn how to solder"? "No" was his answer (15yr old) So I proceeded to clean a re-tin the tip on one of my irons and tinned the ends of a few pieces of 18 and 22 gauge stranded. Switches came yesterday, board arrives today, FTV parts coming tomorrow. I want my Flask.

My son was all eager to try soldering and we did solder a few wires. I didn't let him solder on my dna 40 though.... he's 9. By 15, I'm sure he will have other interests

 

[dwcraig1]

Fasttech staff finally said that the 50 watt flask with TP does not if fact have TP, oh well.

 

[damped]

Waidea VF V3 with fixed 510 and lifted top plate.

To open it further you first need to disconnect the 510 and the buttons (I think) but I'm not gonna do that without a good reason
But this gives a small view of the inside components and there is a tiny silicone gasket between the housing and top plate.
It all looks nice and clean inside, haven't seen any glue or silicone till now.

 

[tchavei]

Ps: You can't tell him "learn to maintain a soldering iron and learn to solder"... That's half way to them not wanting anything to do with that.

I told mine" wanna burn some stuff up with a pen?" and later on "let's pretend we're building a bomb" lol. That's always more cool than "learning to, maintaining, etc"



Regards
Tony

Sent from my keyboard through my phone or something like that.

 

[TheotherSteveS]

Fasttech staff finally said that the 50 watt flask with TP does not if fact have TP, oh well.

that figures! As you say, oh well!

 

[TheotherSteveS]

Received 3FVape's Vapor Shark rDNA40TC clone the other day. Build quality seems very good, has the magnetic battery door & the rubber finish was executed well. Time will tell if this coating holds up better than many of the original units I have heard of. The seam down the front of the unit enclosing the electronics could have been fitted better though & when the fire button LEDs are lit the seam really stands out. I believe the center pin is not fixed as there seems to be a small amount of movement although the spring seems very stiff.

Vapor Shark rDNA40TC initially misread my Kanger Subtank Mini w/ Vapor Shark NI200 OCC coil as .29ohm and was definitely running way hot at a set point of 200F that it came out of box with and it did not refine and correct the resistance reading the way my Kangxin flask would have. After I let it cool, removed the atty, reinstalled, & chose New Coil it read the resistance properly as .15ohm & operated fine as far as temp control goes but it does seem to provide a considerably warmer vape than my kangxin when set to same temperature.

It is equipped with the small display screen as used on the flask & not the larger display used on later versions of the original. The unit display dims 3 seconds after use, display goes off completely 30 seconds after use, however the fire button will continue to glow red until the unit enters sleep 5 after minutes of idle time. There is a full 1 second delay from sleep to fire which I find annoying.

The usb cord included with the unit is fairly short so I haven't checked for passthru operation. There is no display animation when usb charging, just the green LED glowing at the fire button until charging is complete.

Thinking this is the same chip as used in the Waidea flask.

Great info! I started a thread on the VS clones so you might want to check in over there!

I noticed a review of this on the 3Fvape page which wasn't particularly complimentary..ahem... He/she seems to be saying it failed a cotton burn test I think. Did you try it??

 

[Croak]

Well, that's definitely a sled inside there. Clean build. Buttons won't fall out of this one. Actually looks neater than an authentic.

But they did use a wee bit of hot glue, upper left corner of the display (2nd pic). Oh well, pobody's nerfect.

 

[TheotherSteveS]

Has anyone had trouble with the Kangxin clones not detecting new atomiser? I can swap my atties and it doesn't ask

having thought about it, this only happens if i change when it is sleeping I think...is that normal?

 

[WeirdWillie]

Placed my order this morning at focalecig this morning for a Waidea VF V3
It's going to be interesting to compare it to the kangxin and authentic.

I'm not scared to disassemble them so if nobody else has posted detailed pics of the insides by the time I get mine I'll post disassembly and internal workings.

 

[TheBloke]

Lol, I just noticed something looking at the Waideacig VF web page.

In the example pic they have, showing the difference between the authentic V1/V2/V2.1 Flasks, the V2 they show is Phil Busardo's, based on the serial number.

Phil wouldn't be happy about that, with his stance on clones.

Hahaha, that's hilarious! Well spotted!

He should really be rather flattered by that, despite himself