Right, but when it was working normally it would drop down to like two or three watts and hold the temp. Now it's dropping to zero and doesn't start firing again until it drops to around 380ish.
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Try using just nickel wire, no twisted kanthal with nickel. Adjust that 510 connection. Try different atty's. If it keeps going to zero, well, send it back for a Waidea or the infinite flask. I never liked the Kangxin brand cause of the poor assembly i.e. hot glue to hold the buttons in and the board sits in a "hot glue cemetery". The other flasks have full or at least a partial sled to hold the goodies in place.
Pulled it apart and tried it without the tank portion. Not happy to see what I did. Lol. Idk what I'm doing wrong, but this ain't right....
It is straight nickel. I put my my other subtank with the stock .5 coil on it. Working fine. Gotta be something wither with the deck or with my coils. Worked fine for a few days. Even built a new coil for it just now. Same thing.Try using just nickel wire, no twisted kanthal with nickel. Adjust that 510 connection. Try different atty's. If it keeps going to zero, well, send it back for a Waidea or the infinite flask. I never liked the Kangxin brand cause of the poor assembly i.e. hot glue to hold the buttons in and the board sits in a "hot glue cemetery". The other flasks have full or at least a partial sled to hold the goodies in place.
I've recently had that happen to me with a few of my nickel coils, where there were hot spots on the coil. I ripped them out and started over from scratch. I don't know what was cause a tiny portion of the coil to glow. I stopped using a 3.5mm mandrel to wrap my coils(larger diameter coil=less wraps) and went back to my usual 2.5 - 3.0mm. And thought maybe there was a bad section (impurities in the wire) wire in my ni200 spool. So I unspooled about a foot from the spool and tossed it in the garbage. Hasn't happened since. Knock on wood.
Only with dedicated attys, though. They will release that mod and special tanks/attys, and the actual temperature sensing is in the atty. So it only detects Kanthal temperature using their mod, their atty, and (presumably) their coil heads.
They've already announced the iSub TC "the first tank with Innokin Control Technology..". More discussion in this thread, and this post discusses the iSub TC tank.
My feeling at the moment is not only will it require dedicated tanks, but also that those tanks will only work with coil heads. It's not going to be able to detect the temperature of a rebuildable coil, at least not at first. They might add that later - or they might decide they prefer people re-buying their expensive coil heads!
We shall see.What's also unknown is whether it will have standard Ni200/Ti TC working with any generic atty - I would assume/hope so.
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Well this is confusing. I had opened a support ticket with FT support about the removal of the VF's, before I saw TPat quote JennyCS. This morning i got this response:
We apologize that the item SKU 2330000 is sold out due to the production problem, we have been looking for alternative sources of supply these days, but we could not find it from the markets or manufacturers.
Sorry for causing you such an inconvenience.
(SKU 2330000 is the Silver 50W VF, the one I bought before - I had said I wanted to buy another and asked why had it gone?)
Production problem? Really? That's not at all what JennyCS said/implied.
I assume that this support reply is simply wrong, because 'Tina' isn't sure or even that they're giving a less-than-truthful response to support enquiries rather than talk about patents and the like via support tickets. But I have replied to her to clarify, saying I had now seen JennyCS say it was because of the VS patent and which was correct?
We apologize that the item SKU 2330000 is sold out due to the production problem, we have been looking for alternative sources of supply these days, but we could not find it from the markets or manufacturers.
Sorry for causing you such an inconvenience.
(SKU 2330000 is the Silver 50W VF, the one I bought before - I had said I wanted to buy another and asked why had it gone?)
Production problem? Really? That's not at all what JennyCS said/implied.
I assume that this support reply is simply wrong, because 'Tina' isn't sure or even that they're giving a less-than-truthful response to support enquiries rather than talk about patents and the like via support tickets. But I have replied to her to clarify, saying I had now seen JennyCS say it was because of the VS patent and which was correct?
What I sent back in response:
Are you sure?
After I messaged you I saw a message from JennyCS on forum saying "VaporShark has a patent, so we are stop selling VS and VF products"
Is that wrong? Are you saying that VF products will return when manufacturing problem is fixed?
Please confirm if you are saying that you will again stock VF products in future. Thank you!
Are you sure?
After I messaged you I saw a message from JennyCS on forum saying "VaporShark has a patent, so we are stop selling VS and VF products"
Is that wrong? Are you saying that VF products will return when manufacturing problem is fixed?
Please confirm if you are saying that you will again stock VF products in future. Thank you!
It must have really T'ed them off to learn someone was making a better mouse trap for a fraction of the price.
I've exchanged a couple of emails with Doris @ Focal this morning. She replied to my asking them to stock it, and said (as she did with funkyrudi) that the price would be too high.
I asked "what price?" and she said it would be higher than FT, but I replied to her and said we understood it would be higher than FT and that that was OK, it was worth anything up to $80 worst case.
She replied and said they will ask for samples if they get more requests.
So guys, if you want an SXK flask, do email Doris. @sonicbomb @yo han @funkyrudi And anyone else.
She is already taking it seriously (see below), but the more requests the more she'll understand demand.
Added: she replied again a few minutes later and said she had now contacted SXK and they were out of the stock at the moment and that she would contact me again when they were in stock/'stock is stable'.
And then she said "we are taking this seriously"
PS. My original version of this post quoted a price she quoted to me. Then she replied again asking me not to share it "because we don't want to disappoint vapers." If you saw my post before the edit, please honour that and don't mention it. I will just say that the price she quoted to me was higher than FT but fine given what the device is.
I asked "what price?" and she said it would be higher than FT, but I replied to her and said we understood it would be higher than FT and that that was OK, it was worth anything up to $80 worst case.
She replied and said they will ask for samples if they get more requests.
So guys, if you want an SXK flask, do email Doris. @sonicbomb @yo han @funkyrudi And anyone else.
She is already taking it seriously (see below), but the more requests the more she'll understand demand.
Added: she replied again a few minutes later and said she had now contacted SXK and they were out of the stock at the moment and that she would contact me again when they were in stock/'stock is stable'.
And then she said "we are taking this seriously"
PS. My original version of this post quoted a price she quoted to me. Then she replied again asking me not to share it "because we don't want to disappoint vapers." If you saw my post before the edit, please honour that and don't mention it. I will just say that the price she quoted to me was higher than FT but fine given what the device is.
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well I call BS on that. They pulled every VF and VS product. Manufacturing issues with all of them?? The VS 60W V2 with big display was only on the site for about 5 minutes before they disappeared....I gues we will see but I bet they dont reappear any time soon, if ever!
Yeah I think it's just confusion on the part of this FT CS person, Tina. Or it's a deliberate lie.
But it can't be production issues I am sure.
Edit: that said, SXK are out of stock (see post above re Doris). But that is surely not a reason to pull the product pages completely? And then why do it at exactly the same time as the VS removal?
All a bit odd. I suppose it could be that they pulled VS for patent, and pulled VF at the same time because there was no stock anyway so they wanted to monitor the situation to see if VF would follow suit. Then if they don't, they will re-add the product.
I guess we shall see in the coming weeks.
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Another thing I have learnt today: these flasks are SXK only, they are nothing to do with Infinite. We already knew they were made by SXK but I think we (or at least I!) assumed Infinite was distributor.
They are not. Doris referred to them as SXK flasks, and they are listed on the SXK facebook page. I had earlier posted a message on Infinite's FB asking about them and they said they are not theirs, they only have 50W flasks (not sure which that is, maybe a Rayn board, they haven't yet responded to my asking for a link.)
They are not. Doris referred to them as SXK flasks, and they are listed on the SXK facebook page. I had earlier posted a message on Infinite's FB asking about them and they said they are not theirs, they only have 50W flasks (not sure which that is, maybe a Rayn board, they haven't yet responded to my asking for a link.)
I think the infinite flasks arent even TP! Atleast they released a lot that werent...
Also: I just contacted Given Lee of Geeco to ask for confirmation that there is a Geeco 60W flask available. We had seen pics, and now he has confirmed that they have them in stock.
I am asking him where I can buy it from - it might only be direct from Geeco at the moment.
Anyway, I think rumours of the death of the VF clones have, thus far at least, been greatly exaggerated
I am asking him where I can buy it from - it might only be direct from Geeco at the moment.
Anyway, I think rumours of the death of the VF clones have, thus far at least, been greatly exaggerated
Already did that Bloke. She replied there have been more requests and they're busy working on it.
In the meantime I did grab a Kangxin 40W for $39.90 from FocalEcig just in case the SXK models won't come back.
Great @yo han
Also I got a reply from Given Lee of Geeco, anyone wanting a Geeco flask can have one for $94 - in fact most of this is shipping cost, $60 for the flask, $30 shipping:
You can buy from me directly
The one price is US$60.00
The shipping freight is US$30.00
The paypal fee is US4.00
So total pay amount is US$94.00
It's a bit much given that they are available in the US for $99, but it's a start.
I've also asked Doris if she can stock Geeco
Also I got a reply from Given Lee of Geeco, anyone wanting a Geeco flask can have one for $94 - in fact most of this is shipping cost, $60 for the flask, $30 shipping:
You can buy from me directly
The one price is US$60.00
The shipping freight is US$30.00
The paypal fee is US4.00
So total pay amount is US$94.00
It's a bit much given that they are available in the US for $99, but it's a start.
I've also asked Doris if she can stock Geeco
I hope it did
Though seemingly not enough to actually get a patent, yet - but perhaps that's coming. The ones I think should be really p'd (with themselves) is Evolv - pioneered a new technology, then watched as any number of other companies did it better and more reliably. While they're still (still!) trying to fix their screen issues, everyone else has left them far behind.
Someone should have sent them a clone board so they could learn how to do it right
Know Doris already told Bloke other day but she emailed me 2 hrs ago that she tried again with SXK today but they wanted quite a bit more for their flasks than Waidea or Kangxin were charging and while she will keep working on it and let me know if they get them for now at least, they are not yet at agreement.
This makes sense as SXK is probably not yet aware that Fasttech has pulled the flasks from the site as they are still probably shipping to cover orders Fasttech had received prior to pulling them. Probably take them a week or so to figure out what happened and they'll be calling up Doris offering any deal she wants for them I'm sure.
This makes sense as SXK is probably not yet aware that Fasttech has pulled the flasks from the site as they are still probably shipping to cover orders Fasttech had received prior to pulling them. Probably take them a week or so to figure out what happened and they'll be calling up Doris offering any deal she wants for them I'm sure.
TPat not sure where in the time line your message from her came, but check my posts above. I've talked to her a couple of times today and she told me the price they would be able to sell them for and it's fine.
She then contacted sxk to ask for samples but they're out of stock at the moment. She will let us know when they're available again.
She didn't mention Waidea etc to me but she quoted a price and it's reasonable. She asked me not to publicise that price in case it changes.
At the start of the convo she also seemed to be under the impression that they were competing with FT but I let her know they'd stop selling them and it was then that she talked to sxk.
There's also the Geeco flask which is cheap except for postage, I've asked doris to consider them as well.
Sent by fondling my slab.
She then contacted sxk to ask for samples but they're out of stock at the moment. She will let us know when they're available again.
She didn't mention Waidea etc to me but she quoted a price and it's reasonable. She asked me not to publicise that price in case it changes.
At the start of the convo she also seemed to be under the impression that they were competing with FT but I let her know they'd stop selling them and it was then that she talked to sxk.
There's also the Geeco flask which is cheap except for postage, I've asked doris to consider them as well.
Sent by fondling my slab.
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