Variable Voltage and Patent

[retird]

Oh no, I just realized that I made alot of VV box mods, and I did sell ONE (for the cost of materials)....guess Buzz will be sending me a letter, even though he has not even seen my design.....boy am I in trouble now......LOL (or should I be scared to death????) I know that he must protect his not-yet-approved-patent.....

 

[Pandy]

Oh no, I just realized that I made alot of VV box mods, and I did sell ONE (for the cost of materials)....guess Buzz will be sending me a letter, even though he has not even seen my design.....boy am I in trouble now......LOL (or should I be scared to death????) I know that he must protect his not-yet-approved-patent.....

You shouldn't be afraid. I don't even think his patent can get approved anyways, theres already too many products out on the market.

 

[BuzzKill]

GUYS modders will NOT have to do anything , you can make all of the VV devices you want BUT If you want to sell them for profit that is different .

This is an APPLICATION it has not been issued , I put it out there so that MFG';s are aware that it is happening , there are several reasons for this one of them is that I NEED TO make them aware of the application , this sets the date in stone,.

It is fine with me that Fanbois of other MFG's / variations of our original design post here , I am open and do not BS or hide my designs and ideas and patents !!

Go for it guys have fun.


BIG BAD CONGLOMERATE COMPANY

signed by BuzzKill .

 

[retird]

GUYS modders will NOT have to do anything , you can make all of the VV devices you want BUT If you want to sell them for profit that is different .

This is an APPLICATION it has not been issued , I put it out there so that MFG';s are aware that it is happening , there are several reasons for this one of them is that I NEED TO make them aware of the application , this sets the date in stone,.

It is fine with me that Fanbois of other MFG's / variations of our original design post here , I am open and do not BS or hide my designs and ideas and patents !!

Go for it guys have fun.


BIG BAD CONGLOMERATE COMPANY

signed by BuzzKill .

Now we revert to name calling? Fanboys - NO - realistic - YES LOL - YES Exercise in futility - Yes

Will I lower my standards to "name calling" - NO

 

[leannebug]

Most of what I think/feel about this whole thing has already been discussed to death, but I still have one glaring question....

WHERE did Buzz say that he intended to send threatening and hostile letters?? That point seems to be hammered to pieces, yet I have not seen ANY reference to that fact. He asked for names, yep. It's not like the information isn't readily available to anyone with a little time on their hands. So he asked for help in compiling a list? Why is that so terrible? How does that make him a 'user'? Am I missing something??

This whole thing has blown so ridiculously out of proportion that it's become a farce. People-with-patents calling people-applying-for-patents evil trolls, Customers tossing in the towel without even understanding the whys/whats/whos of the whole situation. It's almost laughable.

 

[retird]

Most of what I think/feel about this whole thing has already been discussed to death, but I still have one glaring question....

WHERE did Buzz say that he intended to send threatening and hostile letters?? That point seems to be hammered to pieces, yet I have not seen ANY reference to that fact. He asked for names, yep. It's not like the information isn't readily available to anyone with a little time on their hands. So he asked for help in compiling a list? Why is that so terrible? How does that make him a 'user'? Am I missing something??

This whole thing has blown so ridiculously out of proportion that it's become a farce. People-with-patents calling people-applying-for-patents evil trolls, Customers tossing in the towel without even understanding the whys/whats/whos of the whole situation. It's almost laughable.

Exercise in futility, just what I said........

 

[Devonmoonshire]

You know who I have not seen here????


Not One Single Supplier of VV Units complaining about this. Not one, I may have missed one so by all means if I have please do show me the link. But If the other manufacturers are not complaining about it then why is everyone else making such outlandish assumptions about the future of the VV E-Cig when it is completely up in the air at this point?

Just Curious ya know

Nate aka Darth Vapor

 

[retird]

You know who I have not seen here????


Not One Single Supplier of VV Units complaining about this. Not one, I may have missed one so by all means if I have please do show me the link. But If the other manufacturers are not complaining about it then why is everyone else making such outlandish assumptions about the future of the VV E-Cig when it is completely up in the air at this point?

Just Curious ya know

Nate aka Darth Vapor

If I were a supplier/manufacturer, I would not be "trying my case" in a forum....I would do it in a more professional manner.....but again, just my 2-cents ....

Maybe thats why you haven't seen any suppliers/manufacturers post here.....

 

[Devonmoonshire]

If I were a supplier/manufacturer, I would not be "trying my case" in a forum....I would do it in a more professional manner.....but again, just my 2-cents ....

Good point.

Nate AKA Darth Vapor

 

[Pandy]

If I were a supplier/manufacturer, I would not be "trying my case" in a forum....I would do it in a more professional manner.....but again, just my 2-cents ....

Maybe thats why you haven't seen any suppliers/manufacturers post here.....

Yeah, I wouldn't be public if I was them. That battle is between the lawyers and the courts.

 

[violetvoo]

You know who I have not seen here

Not One Single Supplier of VV Units complaining about this. Not one, I may have missed one so by all means if I have please do show me the link. But If the other manufacturers are not complaining about it then why is everyone else making such outlandish assumptions about the future of the VV E-Cig when it is completely up in the air at this point?

Just Curious ya know

Nate aka Darth Vapor

Most vv suppliers dont post about other suppliers!

 

[5cardstud]

Perhaps but, by sending out warning letters to everyone, he's not signalling that he wants to keep anyone from stopping him, he's signalling that he wants to stop everyone else. That's a far cry from self protection.

Warning letters? So you recieved a warning letter? Gee, post a copy here on the forum I know I'd like to see it.

 

[MasterofChaos]

>You know who I have not seen here????


>Not One Single Supplier of VV Units complaining about this. Not one, I may have missed one so by all means if I have please >do show me the link. But If the other manufacturers are not complaining about it then why is everyone else making such >outlandish assumptions about the future of the VV E-Cig when it is completely up in the air at this point?

They haven't gotten their letters yet. You don't know how many might decide to pack it in rather than fight in court or pay this guy's protection money.

And as for the letters being threatening, there's no reason to send them unless you want to "suggest" that the manufacturers purchase a license from him. And why is it necessary?

What possible good does it do the industry?

Nothing.

 

[5cardstud]

Not sure what this patent is for. The circuit used for the TI TPS63020 is published by TI. Would TI have to licence it from NotCigs? The other part of the claim mentions a Linear Regulator. Nobody is going to use one of these for an e-cig because of the poor efficiency. Most of the step down is lost in heat through the regulator. Why use one when you can use a PWM unit?

All TIs buck/boost products come with a circuit diagram. Are you telling me that sticking an atomiser across the Vout of these circuits is a patent infringment?

The only patents involved here are TIs for the chip itself.

If he can do this in the US, I suggest someone file another patent, using a PWM with a digital potentiometer, then claim licensing of NotCig when they finally get up to date.

Here's such a circuit published by a modder on ECF:

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I can't remember who posted it, but get your patent in quick.

Evidently you haven't read any of the posts. My PC also has TI products in it and it has patent pending on it.

 

[Devonmoonshire]

Well I retract my previous statement about the suppliers not posting here as I have been educated as to why they do not.

I still can't see what the big debate is all about because I can see no harm coming from it. Unless of course Y'all support Big Tobacco in that case they may be harmed by it significantly.

Nate aka Darth Vapor

 

[5cardstud]

FDA ruling, VV patent, should I quit vaping now?

I would if it affected me that way.

 

[5cardstud]

I think I might see if I can copywrite this thread it makes for so very good comedy material.

 

[retird]

Ya know what really strikes me is that, in the big picture of the vaping evolution, VV is already "dated" technology....If I were a viable and stable manufacturer that was in business for the long haul, my money would be directed to new and better technology ( research and development ), not spent on defense of soon-to-be-antiquated, out-dated technology. Heck, there is already a PV that has software so the end-user can program it's functions. As fast as the vaping world is moving, if you do not like something right now, just wait, it will change for the better next month.....just look at the proto-types that are currently under development right now......just my 2-cents....

 

[Devonmoonshire]

Ya know what really strikes me is that, in the big picture of the vaping evolution, VV is already "dated" technology....If I were a viable and stable manufacturer that was in business for the long haul, my money would be directed to new and better technology ( research and development ), not spent on defense of soon-to-be-antiquated, out-dated technology. Heck, there is already a PV that has software so the end-user can program it's functions. As fast as the vaping world is moving, if you do not like something right now, just wait, it will change for the better next month.....just look at the proto-types that are currently under development right now......just my 2-cents....

Very very true statement. These things are sprouting up like daisies. Newness and Improvements are being made daily. Although I must say I have never seen one that is "Programmable" per say. And I would love to see some of these prototypes of which you speak.

Nate aka Darth Vapor

 

[5cardstud]

I know all you people That think Mike did wrong and are not going to buy his products because he filed for a patent will not want to buy any of these produts either because this is just a few that have filed for patents. So lets all quit using Joyetech and Runyan just to start with. Here is just a few.

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Mini E-Cigarette ... Chinese patent. We are applying Patent in other countries as well. ... Tel: 0086 755 81737161 E-mail:info@joyetech.com.
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