Variable Voltage and Patent

[5cardstud]

Never said it was evil, I just do not agree with your tactics....but you can do whatever you feel best suits your goals...

I would have to do some research, but I really doubt that NotCig made the first VV mod, maybe the first Commercially available one...unless you can verify that you invented the VV mod, at which time I would stand corrected...

So it just bothers you that Notcig filed for a patent but not Joye or Runyan who has filed patent infringment suit against US ecig companies?

Trying to get something accross to people is fruitless. The arguers either just like to argue or they are truely in the dark.

 

[BuzzKill]

All I know is this. Regardless of what anyone says, does or otherwise, either a Buzz or an Infinity will be in my collection and that is all there is to it.

Nate AKA Darth Vapor

Thanks Darth !!!

 

[retird]

It certainly is As I stated earlier when all is said and done I shall have several to choose from for different situations, they all have their place in my daily routines.

Me too.....and when new technology gives me a better experience, I will jump on it......after due dilligence research....I do not purchase every new mod out there....

 

[Devonmoonshire]

Thanks Darth !!!

My Absolute Pleasure Sir. Just gotta get with you "Over There" to ask a couple questions on the two

Nate aka Darth Vapor

 

[BuzzKill]

So it just bothers you that Notcig filed for a patent but not Joye or Runyan who has filed patent infringment suit against US ecig companies?

Trying to get something accross to people is fruitless. The arguers either just like to argue or they are truely in the dark.

Besides ALL of the MOD makers out there can be hit up by Ruyuan for royalties, including Notcigs !!

this is a cost of doing business , just the way it is guys !

 

[ktarantino]

I am not understanding one part of this argument. If the VV technology for Mods becomes open to the public exactly 1 year after it was released publically, how can Big Business come in and patent it after the fact? Wouldn't this rule also hold true for them if they tried to patent it in the future? If it is open, doesn't that apply to everyone regardless of lawyers and bankroll? How exactly will this patent keep us safe from Big Tobacco companies when simply proving now that the technology is not patent-able would pretty much do the trick?

 

[retird]

You really are over reacting to this IMO , the choices you have will only get larger , MFG's WILL create new designs that WILL skirt around this patent then THEY WILL patent them FOR SURE !

This industry has not gotten to that point yet but it will it is a fact of business .

I made the Buzz VV design to make vaping BETTER for all of us , just look around over the last 6 months at least 8 companies have made VV devices , IT WORKS that is why they are making and selling them and more companoes have them in the works . If that is a bad design / Idea let me know because it has taken off from what I see around me .

Maybe you should be ...... at the other companies copying this design or basic design using VV !!

I see some mis placed understanding here ( sorry for the crappy English ! )

No, I am not ...... at anybody....... I will ask again - Did you invent the VV mod, or were you just the first to commercially market it? Simple question....

 

[5cardstud]

I am not understanding one part of this argument. If the VV technology for Mods becomes open to the public exactly 1 year after it was released publically, how can Big Business come in and patent it after the fact? Wouldn't this rule also hold true for them if they tried to patent it in the future? If it is open, doesn't that apply to everyone regardless of lawyers and bankroll? How exactly will this patent keep us safe from Big Tobacco companies when simply proving now that the technology is not patent-able would pretty much do the trick?

They can't now but if Mike hadn't of filed and no one else did big tobacco would have or could have filed. They did file for an ecig patent.
There are people that make money researching patents and finding unpatented items and then filing on them.
Oh and it is a patentable product.

 

[5cardstud]

I will ask again -Simple question....

So it just bothers you that Notcig filed for a patent but not Joye or Runyan who has filed patent infringment suit against US ecig companies?

 

[mikev]

All I know is this. Regardless of what anyone says, does or otherwise, either a Buzz or an Infinity will be in my collection and that is all there is to it.

Nate AKA Darth Vapor

I'm with you Nate!! I bought one of the first (#25) Infinity's and I love it... and can't wait for Mike's new line to come out, the ONLY problem I have here is that I can't decide which one to get? another Infinity or a Buzz? or maybe the VVPV LOL

 

[misterD]

Did you invent the VV mod, or were you just the first to commercially market it? Simple question....

i wanna know the answer to that too.

 

[retird]

So it just bothers you that Notcig filed for a patent but not Joye or Runyan who has filed patent infringment suit against US ecig companies?

No, it does not bother me that he file for a patent.....VV devices are on their way out, thus newer, better technology will replace it anyway.

 

[BuzzKill]

i wanna know the answer to that too.

At the time that the provisional application was sent in there were NO VV devices , what you are NOT seeing is that date !!

It is not from this application date but the provisional application date .

 

[Devonmoonshire]

I'm with you Nate!! I bought one of the first (#25) Infinity's and I love it... and can't wait for Mike's new line to come out, the ONLY problem I have here is that I can't decide which one to get? another Infinity or a Buzz? or maybe the VVPV LOL

That is where I am stuck as well. Once I get the cash flow heck I may just buy both because I love the VV option and I really really Love the look of the Infinity Is there such a thing as a "Buzzfiniti"???

Nate AKA Darth Vapor

 

[BuzzKill]

No, it does not bother me that he file for a patent.....VV devices are on their way out, thus newer, better technology will replace it anyway.

I am waiting to see what is next ? maybe a variable atty ? varying power is exactly the same as varying voltage it has the same result , however IF the unit that says it is a variable current AND voltage unit like they say it is then that is different.

 

[retird]

No, I am not ...... at anybody....... I will ask again - Did you invent the VV mod, or were you just the first to commercially market it? Simple question....

One more time.....

 

[5cardstud]

No, it does not bother me that he file for a patent.....VV devices are on their way out, thus newer, better technology will replace it anyway.

You got the inside scoop on that huh? Let us all in on that because people are still copying and selling them. If you got some inside knowledge share it with all of us.

 

[5cardstud]

One more time.....

Well lets see, People have been using variable voltage for models and other devices for yrs. So the answer would be no to that. Did he combine it with an ecig and market it before anyone else? Yes.
So now one more time about this special inside knowledge you have about variable voltage going out are you going to share it or not?

 

[retird]

variable voltage and variable power are not the same......ask any EE....

 

[alldayvape]

At this point I think this is getting ridiculous. It is what it is. Why feed the trolls on either side?!