Variable Voltage Vaping, Should I pull the trigger?

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zoiDman

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Nothing to be Overwhelmed about on a VVPV.

You fill up your Favorite Carto/Atty with your Favorite e-liquid.

Screw it on your VVPV.

Take a Hit at 3.7 volts.

Then bump it up to 3.8 volts and take Another hit.

Then 3.9, 4.0, .... Until it tastes Best.

That's about all there is to it.

Also... When Money is the Question, Always ask yourself How Much were you Spending on Analogs Every Month.

My Therory was if I spend less one-Cigs and I feel better, well, I'm doing OK.
 

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Also... When Money is the Question, Always ask yourself How Much were you Spending on Analogs Every Month.

Its not so much money being the question, I do okay on money and I have no problem justifying it. While I have spent more on vaping than I would have saved on analogs over my time since quitting, I know its not just a dollar for dollar comparission. First there is the whole health issue, then you've got to consider that there are a lot of up front costs associated with vaping that settle down once you have the mods/batteries and you are just buying juice/attys/carts.

It's just that I don't want to waste money on something I don't particularly understand.
 

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If you've already got a Silver Bullet then wait for the Kick to get back in stock, although it does have the inside adjustment it sets the watts so once you find your sweet spot you shouldn't be adjusting it that much, or now especially that the kick is out you should be able to get a great price for your Silver Bullet in the classifieds if you want to go with another vv, nothing wasted and you have a variable, regulated mod either way.
 

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If you've already got a Silver Bullet then wait for the Kick to get back in stock, although it does have the inside adjustment it sets the watts so once you find your sweet spot you shouldn't be adjusting it that much, or now especially that the kick is out you should be able to get a great price for your Silver Bullet in the classifieds if you want to go with another vv, nothing wasted and you have a variable, regulated mod either way.

Yeah, I pretty much have my heart set on a kick, the main reason for wating to go VV is because I use an eGo at work, but when I am at home the eGo doesn't really cut it when I know I have my SB available. Problem is, I'm perfectly content dripping most of the time, but when I lay in bed to watch TV or something, the SB just can't drive a dual coil carto/tank to my satisfaction. Thats why I felt the need to go VV. If I can get the kick in a reasonable amount of time and it turns out to be able to give me what I want from a dual coil carto, I might not feel so compelled to go VV anymore. Issue is, who knows when kicks will be back in stock, or, if it will actually deliver what I'm hoping it will.

I feel like I need to make a decision soon or I might miss out on the ProVari sale.
 

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I have tried both and I would definently say that VV is the way to go. You can do whatever you want with VV.You are limited to your batteries and atty res if you just have fixed voltage.I still have my tube mods and without the kick module they still satisfy me.Its really a matter of preference because some vape at 4v and love it,some must have more ,and some believe that you must find that SWEETSPOT. I would go for the Provari ,I dont know of anyone who's ever posted "sure wish I hadnt wasted my money on this Provari" Everyone that has one loves it.
 

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Yeah, I pretty much have my heart set on a kick, the main reason for wating to go VV is because I use an eGo at work, but when I am at home the eGo doesn't really cut it when I know I have my SB available. Problem is, I'm perfectly content dripping most of the time, but when I lay in bed to watch TV or something, the SB just can't drive a dual coil carto/tank to my satisfaction. Thats why I felt the need to go VV. If I can get the kick in a reasonable amount of time and it turns out to be able to give me what I want from a dual coil carto, I might not feel so compelled to go VV anymore. Issue is, who knows when kicks will be back in stock, or, if it will actually deliver what I'm hoping it will.

I feel like I need to make a decision soon or I might miss out on the ProVari sale.

Ahh, I didn't realized Dual Core was preferred. The kick is limited to 10 watts, plenty for most people and single core but with dual core that's only 5 watts per coil which is more than your Ego but might not be high enough for your preference. Basilray has a review on it in the video section if you haven't seen it yet that gives some insight on the wattage limit.

As far as the Provari sale, unless I'm miss understanding, other than the optional Blue LED and the Mini being introduced on the 15th it's not really a sale, unless you want the Blue LED or they run out of initial stock on the Mini you shouldn't feel like you have to be rushed.
 

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I wonder how many people feel the need for Dual Coils once they have a VVPV where they can output more than 3.7 volts.

To me, it is like the Low Resistance thing. LR came out to Emulate what a carto does at higher than 3.7 volts. But a VVPV can output mre than 3.7 volts so is LR needed? Not in my book.

But then again, I don't care for Filler-Type Cartos. But Everyone uses whatthey like.
 

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Its not that dual coil is perferred, its just what came with the tank I got and it doesn't really work right. I have only tried to use it when I'm lying in bed, but its really weak. That being said, a standard 306/510 LR atty, dripping, while at my desk works really great on my SB.

My solution might be to go VV for dual coils, or it might be as simple as switching to single coil carts. Too many options.

I think I'm pretty sold on a ProVari at this point though, I might go through with buying one later this week.
 

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Its not that dual coil is perferred, its just what came with the tank I got and it doesn't really work right. I have only tried to use it when I'm lying in bed, but its really weak. That being said, a standard 306/510 LR atty, dripping, while at my desk works really great on my SB.

My solution might be to go VV for dual coils, or it might be as simple as switching to single coil carts. Too many options.

I think I'm pretty sold on a ProVari at this point though, I might go through with buying one later this week.

You'll just have to do some testing out of e-Liquid / Carto / Voltages when you get your VVPV.

Weak hits are Rare with a VVPV because you can bump up the Voltage.

I'm holding a Provari in my hand right know and I Really think you would like it. The Only question now is what size?

Mini with 18350 Batteries?
Regular with 18490/18500 Batteries?
Jumbo with 18650 Batteries.

Or perhaps a Mini and an Extention Cap? Or a Regualr and an Extendion Cap?
 

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The mini is only 3/4" smaller, so it doesn't seem really mini to me at all. Maybe if it was narrower or something.

I'm guessing I'd just get the Standard ProVari in black with 18500's.

That would be a Very Nice Setup.

I went with the Standard and am Very Happy with it.
 

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Really glad you like your Silver Bullet. It won't be long before the next batch of Kicks come out. One reason the module is being marketed is so people can try VW without having to buy a whole new mod. The protection features are a nice plus, too.

I may be one of the few that is not fond of Dual Coils and am bold enough to actually advise not to use them on anything, especially if it is not a protected device.

That said -- it can't help but be compelling to want to try VV or VW if one has spent any time here on ECF. My recommendation --- go to the top (Darwin or Provari) or pick up a lava tube (in one of it's many names) and learn. I would also not hesitate to get a Kick for your Silver Bullet. It will be nice to use your familiar friend with the wattage level you learn you prefer. The consistency of VW is outstanding, IMO.
 

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I agree with tearose -- ditch the dual-coil cartos. They cost too much when Boge cartos are available for less than a dollar each, they eat juice like it's going out of style, and they require too high a voltage for the vape they produce. I have a bunch I bought when I first got into tanks, and now I use a J-Tank (designed for Boge cartos) or a cut-down DCC tank. I'm just not a fan of dual-coils at all. I don't see the point of them, I guess.

You can't go wrong with a Provari. I love mine. :)
 

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My big concern is that I just got a silver bullet about 3 weeks ago, and that + batteries, chargers, etc was about $150. I'm afraid that if I get a ProVari my $150 investment in the Silver Bullet will just turn out to be a total waste.

You can keep using the stuff you've already bought for a year, buy a VV mod then. Or you can buy a VV mod now. The difference is that if you wait, you'll spend a year vaping the stuff you've got now.

That's fine, if you're happy with what you've got. But if you want the best vape you can get, you need VV. If you're not going to be happy until you get it, it seems pointless to wait. You can probably sell the SB for pretty close to what it would cost you to get a lavatube kit.

There is at least one poll here on ECF about the voltage sweet spot - what voltage to people like best. The vast majority in that poll vote in the 4.25 to 4.75 range. How many non-VV mods do anything in that range? Essentially none.

A lavatube isn't as nice as a provari, but it does great in that range, and it's far less expensive as the provari.

Lavatube and Provari are also both single battery mods, which is safer than stacking batteries to get more voltage.

I won't be buying anything that doesn't do VV. If you're going to spend money on a mod, it should do the job right.
 
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as a recent "convert" to VV I say take the plunge!! VV rocks....I love that I can adjust the voltage to get the best taste & vapor production from each juice:vapor: it really makes a HUGE difference! I would be very sad if I had to go back to "one volt fits all" vaping, some of my juices don't taste their best until 4.8volts where others are great at 3.7-4.0 :2c: I started w/ standard eGos, then a "vv eGo" & from there moved very quick to a VV box mod. if you have doubts buy a less expensive VV box mod to try then get nicer equipment if you find you can't resist VV's seductive allure:wub:

& :bday:
 

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Just a thought, but if your tank setup uses the Smoktech XL DC 1.5 Ohm cartos - they're about 1/4" longer than the Boge - I'm pretty sure you can use the Smoktech XL Single Coil 1.7 Ohm as a direct replacement for them in your tank. I'd suggest trying that, at least until your VV PV gets in.

Best of luck, & Happy Vaping! :vapor:
 
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