VERSION 2.5 Vision ViVi Nova Is IN STOCK Now, VIVI NOVA Review Thread

[buffaloguy]

Put some tpa ripe bananna or marachino cherry @10% in it if you have any diy stuff. The old tanks will crack in ten minutes. And its distinctly noticeable. The tank will pit and turn white where the liquid rested once dry, and in just minutes this can happen.

Bad thank you on the wicks. I know that some will say "Bad, wth? Why are you making me cut my wicks? I want it out of the box ready?" IGNORE THEM.... Dont ever change the long wicks.

There is one reason... and only one reason long wicks dont work for some people. Your juice is too thick. Distilled water and pga are your friend. Fix the juice, not the equipment.

I use 75%VG/25% flavoring and distilled water in tanks, clearos, cartos... and have never had a dry hit once. So yes, I have tested and restested enough to know. Its always the juice, never the wicks. And those CE3 "eliq cart" ego-w clearos I have. One is three months old, toots like a steam engine, and with long wicks sops up every last bit of juice.

And yeah I know its was a despirate plea... I just hate seeing good equipment go bad. I got four stardusts... EVERYONE RAVES ABOUT... I cant see why. Even at higher voltage, gurgles, juice in your mouth... blech. Those new nova stardusts, short wicks, I wont even buy em. Shame too cause the replacement heads at 3+ohms should be made with long wicks for use in the vivi.

 

[harleydiva]

Morning, Bad (you up yet? )

I just wondered over to the Visions site, and they have the prettiest picture of the "new plastic" colored tubes for the ViVi. Gorgeous! Don't forget to order some - especially purple, red and lime. Those are really nice. The new green... meh... Looks piney. I like the old Stardust green - that one is more like grass, warmer and cheerier.

And - does the new plastic mean that you won't carry the metal tubes anymore? Should I grab a couple before they go the way of the Dodo?

BTW, I'm glad for the new tubes. The Apple juice did an interesting number on my original tube: it didn't cloud over, and it didn't break, but it's covered with a pretty dense network of tiny cracks that look like interweaving tree branches. Very artistic, really. Never seen anything like that before, but, then, this is my first plastic anything that was affected by juice... Wish I could seal it and keep using it. It really is amazingly beautiful.

Speaking of "sealing". I saw some guys talking on another thread about sealing cracked Starudust tubes with Gorilla Glue. They painted on the glue, let it dry overnight, and said it worked like a charm. My concern....is there any health issue with doing that???

 

[quisp65]

Hmmm.... visionecigar page is showing it looking different. That slimmer version might have less weight and definitely would look better on my kgo. The hole is back like the old version.

 

[Briar]

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There is one reason... and only one reason long wicks dont work for some people. Your juice is too thick. Distilled water and pga are your friend. Fix the juice, not the equipment.
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See, that, to me, is totally backwards.

If I add water or whatever to my juice, it dilutes the taste. I like strong flavor, so I won't do that. And, besides, I don't like fiddling with my juice - too much bother. Some of my favorite juices come in VG only and don't offer extra flavor (like Boba's, for instance), and even if I could order with extra flavor, I'd have to fiddle around with extra bottles, extra labels, yada, yada, every single time I get juice. The equipment is there to deliver the juice to my mouth, ultimately, so what I pick is the juice, and then use the correct equipment for that juice.

Short wicked Stardusts work for me just fine - with any thickness juice. I don't use straight PG, but I've had anything from 70/30 PG/VG to 100% VG, and it's all good. If they flood a bit, it's only because I accidentally fill them too high - easy fix though: pour out a little juice and blow out the carto. Noooooo problem.

I honestly don't know how you manage to flood it all the time, or get juice in your mouth - unless you use 100% PG? Or tilt it too much?

Mind you, I believe you an' all - it's just weird to me... All my wicks are getting cut from get-go. I might have to get at least one short-wicked head from some place else just to make sure I'm cutting them to the right length, tho... Much as I hate buying from anyone but GV. LOL

 

[Briar]

Speaking of "sealing". I saw some guys talking on another thread about sealing cracked Starudust tubes with Gorilla Glue. They painted on the glue, let it dry overnight, and said it worked like a charm. My concern....is there any health issue with doing that???

Yeah, I'm not going to do it for precisely that reason: I'm really not sure if the super glue or gorilla glue are safe in contact with the juice. Not worth the risk, imho.

 

[me1969]

the wicks are cut so they just touch the sides of the tank just like the stardust and work great.

 

[Sev00]

See, that, to me, is totally backwards.

If I add water or whatever to my juice, it dilutes the taste. I like strong flavor, so I won't do that. And, besides, I don't like fiddling with my juice - too much bother. Some of my favorite juices come in VG only and don't offer extra flavor (like Boba's, for instance), and even if I could order with extra flavor, I'd have to fiddle around with extra bottles, extra labels, yada, yada, every single time I get juice. The equipment is there to deliver the juice to my mouth, ultimately, so what I pick is the juice, and then use the correct equipment for that juice.

Short wicked Stardusts work for me just fine - with any thickness juice. I don't use straight PG, but I've had anything from 70/30 PG/VG to 100% VG, and it's all good. If they flood a bit, it's only because I accidentally fill them too high - easy fix though: pour out a little juice and blow out the carto. Noooooo problem.

I honestly don't know how you manage to flood it all the time, or get juice in your mouth - unless you use 100% PG? Or tilt it too much?

Mind you, I believe you an' all - it's just weird to me... All my wicks are getting cut from get-go. I might have to get at least one short-wicked head from some place else just to make sure I'm cutting them to the right length, tho... Much as I hate buying from anyone but GV. LOL

I am curious. Does this mean that you don't want to lay the tank on its side on the desk. Does it need to be vertical most of the time? I currently use a Smoktech tank, but just want to know how to properly operate the ViVi when I get it. Thanks.

Sev

 

[Sev00]

Here is another question for all you Vision veterans, since I just jump on the train with the Nova. Is the Nova an evolutionary product of the Vision Stone? And at of curiosity what came before the Stone?

Looks to me that's innovations are being made at a nice clip. What is the equivalent to the Nova's distant chimpanzee cousin?

Thanks,
Sev

 

[Briar]

I am curious. Does this mean that you don't want to lay the tank on its side on the desk. Does it need to be vertical most of the time? I currently use a Smoktech tank, but just want to know how to properly operate the ViVi when I get it. Thanks.

Sev

Hmmm. I've never actually left a ViVi on it's side, so I honestly have no clue what would happen. I keep them vertical, either sitting on the batt, or in a pill bottle, or in one of those shorty thread-cover cones (those make great tank stands).

I have had Stardusts on their sides once in a while, and what happens, generally, is it won't flood - I think it's a geometry thing. If the top wick slot is not in the juice (and it won't be unless it's grievously over-filled), the juice won't pour into the coil area, thus no flooding. If the wick slots are more or less in the horizontal plane, it might flood a little if it's very full. Generally, I found that the key to a well-behaved Stardust is to just under-fill it a tad - maybe 2 millimeters or so under the bottom of the wick slot.

I'd imagine it would be the same for the ViVi...

 

[Bmays]

I have left my ViVi on its side in the passenger seat all day and had no issues so I doubt that will be a problem. I'm so ready for the new heads though. I've rebuild a few stardust to tide me over but IMO its more of a PITA than its worth.

 

[yiddleboge6]

Morning, Bad (you up yet? )

I just wondered over to the Visions site, and they have the prettiest picture of the "new plastic" colored tubes for the ViVi. Gorgeous! Don't forget to order some - especially purple, red and lime. Those are really nice. The new green... meh... Looks piney. I like the old Stardust green - that one is more like grass, warmer and cheerier.

And - does the new plastic mean that you won't carry the metal tubes anymore? Should I grab a couple before they go the way of the Dodo?

BTW, I'm glad for the new tubes. The Apple juice did an interesting number on my original tube: it didn't cloud over, and it didn't break, but it's covered with a pretty dense network of tiny cracks that look like interweaving tree branches. Very artistic, really. Never seen anything like that before, but, then, this is my first plastic anything that was affected by juice... Wish I could seal it and keep using it. It really is amazingly beautiful.

Bad, colors please, please, pleeeeease

 

[me1969]

anyone know when the smaller vivi nova's coming out ?

 

[yiddleboge6]

smaller???????? Are you talking about the stardusts that will have replaceable parts?

 

[me1969]

No on the vision e cigar website they have what looks like a 3.5 ml tank along with the normal one .

 

[harleydiva]

Hmmm. I've never actually left a ViVi on it's side, so I honestly have no clue what would happen. I keep them vertical, either sitting on the batt, or in a pill bottle, or in one of those shorty thread-cover cones (those make great tank stands).

I have had Stardusts on their sides once in a while, and what happens, generally, is it won't flood - I think it's a geometry thing. If the top wick slot is not in the juice (and it won't be unless it's grievously over-filled), the juice won't pour into the coil area, thus no flooding. If the wick slots are more or less in the horizontal plane, it might flood a little if it's very full. Generally, I found that the key to a well-behaved Stardust is to just under-fill it a tad - maybe 2 millimeters or so under the bottom of the wick slot.

I'd imagine it would be the same for the ViVi...

HMMM.....I purposefully leave my Stardust laying on their sides so the wicks are always in contact with the juice. The Vivi Nova is on it side unless it's on my ProVari....never had a problem either way. I am still using the original 2.4 head on my Vivi....cleaned it yesterday, and trimmed the wicks a little this morning. Haven't tried it yet tho....trying to decide what juice to put in it....

 

[harleydiva]

Yeah, I'm not going to do it for precisely that reason: I'm really not sure if the super glue or gorilla glue are safe in contact with the juice. Not worth the risk, imho.

I know...I sure would like to fix them like this. Got 4 of them laying around. I guess I'm just going to wait until the replacement tubes show up. Put myself on the subscription to be notified when they go back up. Of course, I will probably know anyway since I check this list several times a day.

 

[vikeme28]

No on the vision e cigar website they have what looks like a 3.5 ml tank along with the normal one .

The original vivi from gotvapes is 3.5.

 

[me1969]

Oh duh then its smaller its marked slim on the site what ever it is its a smaller version.

 

[buffaloguy]

Briar, I hear you but I still disagree. From my experience with longer wicked clearos when you trim the wicks you actually sacrifice flavor. two to five drops (depending on bottle size of course) of dw or pga is not going to dilute your juice to the point where its watered down or cause substantial flavor loss, but it is enough to make a juice wick better.

I work in all vg, except for flavorings. I make my own juice so maybe its easier for me to tailor it to my taste. Mind you, Im not adding more than 10-15% flavoing in most of my juices. Most often its under 8%. And I never add more flavor to a finished juice.. only dw if it needs to wick better and I never have had the flavor suffer as a result.

If you have no wicking issues with your juices thats a good thing, but that also means you should be getting even better flavor with longer wicks. Why people want them cut is beyond me.

Either way Im glad we will have the option to do as we like. Different strokes for different folks. Once we have them try two of the same ohms heads. One with long wicks, one short, with the same jukce and I think you'll see.

As far as why they flood on me like that I dont know. Ive read and read, done everything including reduce the juice level and blow them out and they still act up. I so find they perform slightly better on VV but not much. Plus the hassle of eolling and tilting is just a pita. Long wicks draw on their own if the juice is right. Hence why I said, fix the juice if its not wicking right.

Stardusts and the ce2 micromizers from mit are the only ones that ever flood on me. Stardust top coil, micromizer bottom coil... go figure.

 

[burns_erin]

Briar, I hear you but I still disagree. From my experience with longer wicked clearos when you trim the wicks you actually sacrifice flavor. two to five drops (depending on bottle size of course) of dw or pga is not going to dilute your juice to the point where its watered down or cause substantial flavor loss, but it is enough to make a juice wick better.

I work in all vg, except for flavorings. I make my own juice so maybe its easier for me to tailor it to my taste. Mind you, Im not adding more than 10-15% flavoing in most of my juices. Most often its under 8%. And I never add more flavor to a finished juice.. only dw if it needs to wick better and I never have had the flavor suffer as a result.

If you have no wicking issues with your juices thats a good thing, but that also means you should be getting even better flavor with longer wicks. Why people want them cut is beyond me.

Either way Im glad we will have the option to do as we like. Different strokes for different folks. Once we have them try two of the same ohms heads. One with long wicks, one short, with the same jukce and I think you'll see.

As far as why they flood on me like that I dont know. Ive read and read, done everything including reduce the juice level and blow them out and they still act up. I so find they perform slightly better on VV but not much. Plus the hassle of eolling and tilting is just a pita. Long wicks draw on their own if the juice is right. Hence why I said, fix the juice if its not wicking right.

Stardusts and the ce2 micromizers from mit are the only ones that ever flood on me. Stardust top coil, micromizer bottom coil... go figure.

Might be your juice is just too thin...