I had a very tight draw on my one viva atomizer head,it turn out the metal nipple that goes into the bottom of the atomizer head wasnt drilled out for airflow all the way,you might want to check that? When it comes to the viva minis they have been good to me and recoiling and rewicking with cotton balls is a good improvement IMO.
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I would expect people on the internet to quit taking the defensive standpoint in situations where I'm meaning no disrespect towards someone. Poor wording, I'll grant that much.. but I stand by what I said, but not in the sense you're taking it. I was recommended to try the Vivi Novas from multiple sources including a lot of feedback here.. Am I calling those people wrong or disrespecting their choices?? No.. Before you blatantly call someone out on being rude, please read through other comments I've made, where I pointed out these are my personal findings on the device among countless other things like still backing up the company I purchased them from.
Back to the original problem at hand... as I stated already, am I saying you're wrong for liking this product??? No.. and I wouldn't normally say this, but to simply assume what you did, jump to this conclusion, and then call me offensive and be extremely disrespectful because you're too narrowminded and set in "DEFENSE" mode to realize the meaning behind that statement, then it's your problem, and -I- would expect more from a fellow Texan, sir.. This is the 2nd time in this thread someone has jumped right on the defensive side and taken things I'm saying into the wrong context for no other reason than they enjoy this product..
Just so you're aware.. this statement is implying that I... as in me, the person writing.. not you, or any other members of this forum.. "I" did not do my homework before purchasing this product. I listened to numerous people about the quality on it, and simply assumed I would like it and would have no problems. Had I actually done more looking before purchasing, I wouldn't have wasted the money in the first place. This statement is a reference to my own short comings, NOT an attack on the people who recommended the device to me. If you're going to attack someone in this sense, please ASK what I'm saying before you jump to a conclusion, and try to make me seem like the rude and obnoxious @$$ here when there's no call for it, and you're doing nothing but showing your own @$$..
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Zoi, I really do appreciate all the help and hints, along with the others, Buffalo, who were attempting to help get the problem remedied. I believe I'll be scrapping these and sticking to cartos and tanks, though I'm going to be giving actual RBAs a shot later on. I'm very thankful for the effort from everyone helping, though I'm not going to continue on this thread after being bashed twice now for things I didn't mean or say, one of them from a fellow Texan being so rude and dramatic that if I thought I'd never need or want help again with my vaping, I can honestly say I'd close out my account on ECF just to avoid ever getting a reply or other comment from him again.
From my experience with the Vivi, I'll never buy another.. I was happy with carto/tanks but now I found the joy of using the Kanger T3. Bought 1 w/ 510 adapter a few weeks ago and love it that I bought 3 more with a bunch of extra bottom heads and as my tanks go dry and those cartos go bad I retire them to my back up box.. The T3 is the best clearo out there.. If you still cant get your Vivi to work try a T3..
The rubber tube he's talking about (I think) is located inside of the drip tip itself. Try putting a different drip tip on it and see if that helps at all. The tube's opening could be too narrow.
Your problems are odd and sound very frustrating. From my experience with the Vivi, the draw is a bit tighter than some cartos but not abnormally so. Of course, everyone has their own idea of what constitutes a tight draw depending on what they're used to and what they prefer. I'm trying to think of something that might loosen the draw for you.
Do you have the rubber coil cap that goes over something like a Stardust? If so, try removing the rubber cap and metal piece that fits under it from your vivi nova and replace it with just the rubber cap (not including the metal cone/pip that goes with it) from the Stardust/Ce4. It also has a narrow opening but it could possibly open the draw a little.
Your problems are odd and sound very frustrating. From my experience with the Vivi, the draw is a bit tighter than some cartos but not abnormally so. Of course, everyone has their own idea of what constitutes a tight draw depending on what they're used to and what they prefer. I'm trying to think of something that might loosen the draw for you.
Do you have the rubber coil cap that goes over something like a Stardust? If so, try removing the rubber cap and metal piece that fits under it from your vivi nova and replace it with just the rubber cap (not including the metal cone/pip that goes with it) from the Stardust/Ce4. It also has a narrow opening but it could possibly open the draw a little.
HI Finch - in summary start your vape with any coil on the low end side and work up. I often find anything in the mid 4.0-5.0 range can give anything under 3.0ohm a run for its money (also remember that the ohmage is stated from the factory, they can have variances down!).
The Provari itself is a mod that seems to have issues with airflow at times so what many people do is purchase one of the ego cone threads in either Type B, C or D or even just a mini extender.
We often assume general knowledge of these things but many people aren't aware so actually this thread serves as a refresher especially with such thoughtful and excellent posts from Zoidman who has alot of experience and is mehtodical in his explanations about the faubles and foils of top coils and other helpful posts from our gracious GV forum members such as red sock and others...
The Provari itself is a mod that seems to have issues with airflow at times so what many people do is purchase one of the ego cone threads in either Type B, C or D or even just a mini extender.
We often assume general knowledge of these things but many people aren't aware so actually this thread serves as a refresher especially with such thoughtful and excellent posts from Zoidman who has alot of experience and is mehtodical in his explanations about the faubles and foils of top coils and other helpful posts from our gracious GV forum members such as red sock and others...
I’ve re-read your posts and I’m not exactly sure why you received some of the replies that you did from a Few of the members here. I just did see much that would warrant it.
Maybe you caught some of them on a Bad Night. I dunno. It was not the type of response I’m used to seeing from the gotvapes “Family”.
But the majority of the responses were very helpful. And the advise that was given can be applied to Any type of Filler-Less Carto. So even if you can’t get anything going on your Vivi Nova’s, it was not a complete loss.
The rubber condom cap that comes over the drip tips would definitely tighten up the draw if not removed before usage.
Sorry...had to throw a bit of humor in this thread. Getting way too serious.
Sorry...had to throw a bit of humor in this thread. Getting way too serious.
FinchX: When you state "unfortunately, I listened to some members on here before reading what others had run into," it WILL BE taken offence to, ANY DAY, ANY TIME, ANY THREAD. I did get your PM, and yes I do not harbor a grudge, and all is under the bridge. Your sincere explanation on what you were trying to convey in your post is understood.
In order to foster good will, and as an act of Texas hospitality, I will offer to send you TWO full size Nova's, complete with BRAND NEW heads out of my personal stash. I do not use them anymore, and would like to see a new appreciative home for them.
Just PM me your physical address, and I'll get them out to you. These are in perfect working order, with a nice smooth draw. They are from GV, and are VISION Nova 2.5
Yes, The Nova's on a Provari will result in a tight draw. The same is true of the Super T P+ MODS. These do not have the slits in the top cap to allow airflow, so a 510 to 510 adaptor is needed.
In order to foster good will, and as an act of Texas hospitality, I will offer to send you TWO full size Nova's, complete with BRAND NEW heads out of my personal stash. I do not use them anymore, and would like to see a new appreciative home for them.
Just PM me your physical address, and I'll get them out to you. These are in perfect working order, with a nice smooth draw. They are from GV, and are VISION Nova 2.5
Yes, The Nova's on a Provari will result in a tight draw. The same is true of the Super T P+ MODS. These do not have the slits in the top cap to allow airflow, so a 510 to 510 adaptor is needed.
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No worries, sir... I do appreciate it and like you said, is water under the bridge.. I'm just not a fan of people thinking the wrong things have been implied, especially when taken offense to. Sending the Vivi's is an amazing gesture, but I think there's just something more going on.. I ordered 3 and couldn't get any to work. The brand new one I haven't even touched has a tight (not as bad as the others) draw on it as well.. I think its a combination of personal taste and not being familiar with the product.. (meaning I kept thinking it was something I was doing wrong, but after watching so many videos it has to just be that I was expecting a different hit) that of course is after I messed up several heads trying to alter them or toy around to try and get more airflow or TH.. LOL.. I'm fairly positive one of the heads I cooked because it no longer works at all, and it was the one I had kept testing at a much too high voltage. I don't have any problems with these or Got Vapes.. The thread was started where it was in hopes of more Got Vapes customers reading and being able to throw in some input, but as I said I'm just going to go back to tanks and RBAs.. as I told Max from Got Vapes, its all one big learning experience, I'll chop this one up to one I either couldn't learn or simply wasn't for me, personally.. lol
Understood. The only way I know to lighten the draw (and I did this on one of mine) is to take a 3/64 drill bit to the air holes in the stem.
Worked like a champ..Use a drill press if you got one, tyring this freehand will probably screw it up...
Worked like a champ..Use a drill press if you got one, tyring this freehand will probably screw it up...
Drilling out the Side Holes on a CE2's is SOP for me.
I use a 1/16th Drill and do it by hand. The key is not idrilling too deep. Just have to break thru.
I had the exact problem when I first got the vivi nova and tried to use it on my provari. Talk about upset.....I sure was. I finally turned volts to 3.3(lowest setting) and loosened up the vivi nova from the provari just a hair. Finally was getting a pretty loose hit but taste was still a bit burnt tasting. Did some youtube and reviews and some said that the taste would get better the longer you used them. Sure enough the taste is fantastic now. Hate the fact that I will have to break some more in when this one goes bad.
I tore mine apart and rolled a stainless steel wick for it. 4/5 wrap of 32 gauge kanthal puts it at 1.6/1.7 ohms. Works great most of the time this way, still get a little gurgle from it every now and then.
As others have said Finch if airflow seems to be the problem now try adding a 510 to 510 adapter and see if that helps you. You can try backing out the vivi a bit but if it wont connect to the batt pin on the provari then you would have to raise that battery pin a little with a paperclip. Adapter is prolly a better soultion.
If there is no airflow with the vivi completely off your device then something is blocking the stem holes or the holes in the atty head. While its possible the little plastic ring inside rhe drip tip is a culprit, I wouldnt think so.
If there is no airflow with the vivi completely off your device then something is blocking the stem holes or the holes in the atty head. While its possible the little plastic ring inside rhe drip tip is a culprit, I wouldnt think so.
another trick is sometimes if the wick and coil gets pushed down in the head that could block some airflow you can put it up a bit by inserting a toothpick in the center hole of the head from underneath and push up the coil a little so its not resting directly on the hole. ive not had to do this in a while but it has fixed a head or 3 for me - but i dont think mine had that stiff of a draw problem
this can also apply to almost any horizontal coil device...
but
if i take a 'fast' draw more like i did with a ciggy it feels restricted but the slower draw i have developed over time vaping all different kinds of devices they feel fine and work great.
some things ive found just need a slower gentler draw than others to work properly but still shouldnt feel too restricted
hope you get it sorted out
this can also apply to almost any horizontal coil device...
but
if i take a 'fast' draw more like i did with a ciggy it feels restricted but the slower draw i have developed over time vaping all different kinds of devices they feel fine and work great.
some things ive found just need a slower gentler draw than others to work properly but still shouldnt feel too restricted
hope you get it sorted out
i would rinse them out before use, followed by gentle pat dry of the wicks and then a dry burn, and maybe a 2nd rinse/dry. Should bypass the "break in" period.
I'm a bit more accustomed to an open draw pull almost like I get from my tanks. The brand new Vivi I haven't touched or altered doesn't have this even when not connected, but as zip and several others pointed out, it may require some boring out to get the pull I'm looking for.
When I first began vaping I was with V2 cigs, and shortly before leaving them, they released a tiny clearo for use on their batteries. It hit no differently than the cartos I had been filling so I'm thinking I was just under the wrong impression, and as I apologized about earlier with the confusion , I simply didn't do my homework and assumed the same would apply between cartos and clearos on the VV devices, minus of course some of the complaints I had already heard and disregarded which only amounted to some saying they had the potential to mute done flavors? I wasn't overly concerned with that one, and thought nothing else more about them.
I really enjoy my tanks and I think right now its best to just stick to what I know, though the customization abilities and whatnot of RBAs like the Z Atty Pro are definitely appealing
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When I first began vaping I was with V2 cigs, and shortly before leaving them, they released a tiny clearo for use on their batteries. It hit no differently than the cartos I had been filling so I'm thinking I was just under the wrong impression, and as I apologized about earlier with the confusion , I simply didn't do my homework and assumed the same would apply between cartos and clearos on the VV devices, minus of course some of the complaints I had already heard and disregarded which only amounted to some saying they had the potential to mute done flavors? I wasn't overly concerned with that one, and thought nothing else more about them.
I really enjoy my tanks and I think right now its best to just stick to what I know, though the customization abilities and whatnot of RBAs like the Z Atty Pro are definitely appealing
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