So you're claiming that a 0.1 ohm nickel coil has been tested as safe to vape on my aw or efest 18350 battery?
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I never said I've seen or evaluated either device.
Edit: Oh, I get it. Seems like you've got a horse in this race seeing as you were under NDA for 'several months' on the DNA40. Looking through your history I see happy comments on DNA40 products and you just come in here with negativity and, instead of trying to educate those like myself who may be making simple (to you) mistakes, you just come off rude.
This is the VIR thread, where we talk about the VIR. Not the put down those interested in the VIR thread. If you're going to come in here and shoot us down, at least do it with tact
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I tested with an AW 18350 but again, this is desperate reaching. There are plenty of kanthal coils that are not safe to vape on 18350s, so you aren't making any kind of point.
I never said I've seen or evaluated either device.
Edit: Oh, I get it. Seems like you've got a horse in this race seeing as you were under NDA for 'several months' on the DNA40. Looking through your history I see happy comments on DNA40 products and you just come in here with negativity and, instead of trying to educate those like myself who may be making simple (to you) mistakes, you just come off rude.
This is the VIR thread, where we talk about the VIR. Not the put down those interested in the VIR thread. If you're going to come in here and shoot us down, at least do it with tact
There are several beta testers posting around the forums and we are a resource to you to educate yourself. That you spout off rather than avail yourself of the opportunity to ask those who know is telling.
I don't have a horse so much as I've ridden the horse you are comparing a phantom horse to. Eh. Not a great analogy. Bottom line is this is a real product and frankly it's pretty astounding. Temperature measurement by resistance is not a new concept but the devil is in the details of applying it to ecigarettes because of the scale and scope of the devices. Evolv's product works, and that's the biggest deal. You may not yet realize this but that's really all that matters. Cross compatibility is moot; you probably will stop using the older technology. If VIR works, you're stoked. The rest really doesn't matter.
Spending your effort figuring out why VIR might be better than the DNA40 is like having two wonderful meals before you and spending your time talking about the shapes of the plates they are on. You're missing the biggest and best deal... the DNA40 is hopefully a preview of what VIR might offer.
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You, a resource? I understand that you may think you're coming in here and acting as a resource to educate us misguided souls but when you start telling people in a normal discussion about two similar products that they have a vested interest in railing against the DNA40 (nice introduction you had there, really endeared me to you) and that they're not making any point (when you aren't making any point to monkkx either) it doesn't really make anyone want to read what you have to say.
Why would I want to ask you anything after you come in like that?
If there are beta testers of the DNA40 around here I'd like to talk to (a normal) one of them to see what the device is about. But not one who thinks he's god's gift to vaping just because he got to test a new chip for a couple months. Being under an NDA at some point doesn't make you anything special, and doesn't give you the right to step into threads and spout off yourself.
And no, I probably won't stop using the old technology. As hard as it may be for you to believe, some people enjoy using mechs.
This isn't going to go anywhere, so I'll leave it at that. You and I have taken this thread off topic enough.
Call em ike I see em. You were wrong and got straightened out. Sorry if your ego can't handle that but maybe you should consider not making definitive statements about things you know nothing about.
I don't care if you ask me anything, honestly. But if you gave a damn about the truth you'd be looking for it, from that nice person you prefer. They are all there in the threads. Get your facts.
You might think so, but chances are you won't. It's that much better. That is if VIR works.
This is a thread about VIR....Virtual Imeo Reality lol. Stat on topic peeps!
Personally its about damn time we finally get this beautiful new technology for vaping. It makes the provari p3 look outdated an that hasn't even reached market. Wow! Thats crazy.
Vaping is sposed to be about avoiding smokes. I dont like vaping acrolein and im very excited to have new tech that effectively minimizes vaping to a risk of 99.999% safer than smoking. Temp control has been on the burner for at least the past year. People have been trying to make it work ad we finally have the technology.
To me this leap is the biggest innovation since variable power boards first hit the market. It could quell the ANTZ into submission if we can prove that:
A) given this new tech we show the data about temps and safety profiles with Dr Farsalinos' study
B) prove that vaping reduces harm to practically nothing
Once we figure out perfect juice delivery and perfect atomization materials, vaping will overtake smoking and it will be no more for 99% of ppl. Millions of deaths avoided
Personally its about damn time we finally get this beautiful new technology for vaping. It makes the provari p3 look outdated an that hasn't even reached market. Wow! Thats crazy.
Vaping is sposed to be about avoiding smokes. I dont like vaping acrolein and im very excited to have new tech that effectively minimizes vaping to a risk of 99.999% safer than smoking. Temp control has been on the burner for at least the past year. People have been trying to make it work ad we finally have the technology.
To me this leap is the biggest innovation since variable power boards first hit the market. It could quell the ANTZ into submission if we can prove that:
A) given this new tech we show the data about temps and safety profiles with Dr Farsalinos' study
B) prove that vaping reduces harm to practically nothing
Once we figure out perfect juice delivery and perfect atomization materials, vaping will overtake smoking and it will be no more for 99% of ppl. Millions of deaths avoided
Also has anyone considered Titanium wires vs Nickel wires?
I know that many many ppl are allergic to nickel. How would an allergic person react to vaping nickel wire repeatedly?! Seems pretty risky, but then again im just a layperson so i dont know. Titanium is a biocompatible element which is why many surgical implants are made from it
I know PERSONALLY i would much rather vape titanium. It also tastes amazingly clean compared to kanthal or nichrome. I vote titanium any day of the week
I know that many many ppl are allergic to nickel. How would an allergic person react to vaping nickel wire repeatedly?! Seems pretty risky, but then again im just a layperson so i dont know. Titanium is a biocompatible element which is why many surgical implants are made from it
I know PERSONALLY i would much rather vape titanium. It also tastes amazingly clean compared to kanthal or nichrome. I vote titanium any day of the week
Two of the beta testers had nickel sensitivity, one fairly severe. No effects. But a person with sensitivity should probably take it slow at first.
Can titanium oxidize?
Titanium has the same problem.
Titanium, like nickel has a relatively high temperature coefficient of resistance, so your Ti coil that you measure at X ohms cold will be significantly higher resistance at operating temperature.
I honestly don't believe so. Not at all really.
Personally, I'm hearing about the VIR for the first time today. God I wished I had more time to watch the forums for tech like this!!
I'm actually excited to hear about this. The more tech the better. The safer the tech the better.
I show bias or favoritism to no one. If Imeo would like me to post this video or any other information on the upcoming VIR tech on TasteYourJuice, all he needs to do is ask. If he wants to come out of the door and talk about his product, he just needs a plane ticket.
Vape Happy Everyone!
Loved the reference to 'John in chains' on the video...
Also how do you go about detecting shorts and fixing hotspots on mesh builds with the VIR? If I understand correctly there is no "normal" mode (non temperature regulated). Is that correct?
Not really.
Evolv has had people beta testing their devices for a while now and they launch the product this week. Consumers are using them.
Diocedes have people beta testing their products in the market and are getting ready to launch. Consumers are using them.
VIR is only words on a screen.
there will be no clones this time cyber. VIR is patented and I will do whatever it takes to support it
Interestingly the new DNA40 will use nickel wires, which have virtually no resistance. It will also work with Kanthal but then the temperature bases functions will not work.
As I understand in VIR's case you just set the temperature and vape. With DNA40 you set max (!) temeprature but also can set the wattage. Sounds a bit more complex but gives more space to play.
I am curious when the first china clones will come with an app that can control your thermal data from your mobile.
it depends on machine shop kd. If the ability of making metal parts is reasonable, I will keep it for GG. If not, I will give it to third parties
not exactly true dr. If the wire starts with a resistance at 0,1 ohms, it may go at 0,2 ohms while vaping, something not really safe for mechs. But even if it goes higher (I dont think so), it is still not safe until the resistance rise. I dont think that anyone wants to take that risk for his safety and for the safety of his batteries too
titanium starts at high resistance and just go higher dil. Nickel starts very low and its goes higher. Nothing to compare here.
VIR will do its job by autodetecting the wire. If it finds it, then your wire is ok. If it doesnt find it then you have hot spots. But be sure that VIR was not made for mesh atomizers because oxidised mesh atomizers are out of VIR's priorities.
Now, about VIR comparing to DNA 40: I will see the dna40 video and I will comment. But I dont think the devices have any serious similarity from what I have heard.
So how many people are have VIRs to vape right now? Is it vaper-ware or is it vaporware? 
The patent fights over who actually invented temperature control for PVs could end up being rather entertaining.
The patent fights over who actually invented temperature control for PVs could end up being rather entertaining.
From what ive read and seen VIR and dna40 are nothing like eachother. Kudos to evolve for innovation but I am very exited to see VIR in action. Both engineers are genious. We should embrace the competition. I am sure Imeo would agree that he needs to be challenged by others; that is where true ingenuity comes from!
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