Let me get this straight imeo , your using the coil as a thermocouple ?
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So how many people are have VIRs to vape right now? Is it vaper-ware or is it vaporware?
The patent fights over who actually invented temperature control for PVs could end up being rather entertaining.
From what I understand, patenting temperature control itself will be a no-go since sensing temperature via resistance and using it to control a heating element has too much prior art. So the patents would be on the specific implementations, which would leave room for both to be valid.
I dont want to give any info about how VIR works Supa but no, it doesnt work like that
with tilemahos, I get to really enjoy large beefy coils, full of saturated rayon ... the purest flavor ever ... temperature control on top of that will really rock !!
Hey guys... I heard some rumors that Mr Farsalinos has VIR in his hands some time ago and making his tests 
You're right and sorry I should have been more clear. What I meant us that with a Ti coil you have a similar issue of not being able to accurately predict the working resistance when used on a mech.
I can see how this would work for severe mesh shorts, but small shorts or issues with coil not fully contacting the mesh would be impossible to detect, no?
But if the VIR is not meant for mesh wicks, then fair enough I guess (though that means I'm not really interested).
I find this all very interesting the DNA 40 and i am sure many others soon to come VIR which is on the way and I can't wait to try it! I personally know that I sometimes don't use best practices when vaping heating coils and i am Vaping at .3 ohms right now temp may be bad for juice or coil may get to hot if it runs dry which is not good. I never have found huge vapor with the flavor that i crave so i try to get to a happy medium still trying it changes everyday depending on the situation. I didn't quit smoking to kill myself Vaping and personally welcome this new tech with open arms safer Vaping without having to think to much perfect a d what a better way to tel Health Canada and the FDA to go well ill stop there. The advances that Imeo and the Vaping community have made in such a short time should be recognized this really is a revolution world wide and it seems that the powers that be will stop at nothing to stop it. Must be about money which is sad well that's my two cents now to play some hockey Vape safe everyone.
1st worldwide temperature measurements in e-cigs (Imeo's V.I.R.)
by Dr. Farsalinos
by Dr. Farsalinos
Thank you steliosss. I am not sure what the video shows besides stetting it to temp xx and the device regulates on that temp? Or am I missing something?
I must admit it seems a little weird to watch a video from a 'research Doctor' with rock music playing with it.
I must admit it seems a little weird to watch a video from a 'research Doctor' with rock music playing with it.
The video shows VIR keeping the temperature to the level you set it Fog. Thats the main purpose of VIR.
resistance=temperature. What I mean is that resistances are made to produce heat. All the energy that is given to a resistance becomes heat. If you can control that heat then you made a superior device that has many advantages.
resistance=temperature. What I mean is that resistances are made to produce heat. All the energy that is given to a resistance becomes heat. If you can control that heat then you made a superior device that has many advantages.
I understand Imeo. To me it's kinda obvious that a device does what it's main design purpose is so I wondered if I missed something else in the video. All good, thx.
I understand Imeo. To me it's kinda obvious that a device does what it's main design purpose is so I wondered if I missed something else in the video. All good, thx.
I think the main thing not to be missed, is that it's the very first personal vaporizer to have this capability
And for the GG fan, this is the long awaited VIR becoming reality !
one question for imeo though. Do you have some kind of boost feature to quickly reach the set temperature?
of course monk. Temperature must be reached in less than 0,5 second on wire and thats what I am doing. Mr. Farsalinos's videos for example shows how temperature is reached on liquid and not on wire. Liquid's temperature is always behind the temperature of wire.
I think the main thing not to be missed, is that it's the very first personal vaporizer to have this capability
I am a GG fan too. My Penny's are on near 24/7 service. No to be confused with a fanboy worshipping even Imeo's farts. They are another type of fan...
I'm not sure Proteus will be the first mod (it's not a vaporizer) offering temperature control. Via a different route the DNA 40 offers temperature control within 5 degrees accuracy too. One uses Ti and SS wire only, the other Nickel wire. And the DNA40 is shipped out to mod-makers as we speak.
Obviously we're not able to tell which board is best at this moment. Time will tell. I think there is a big chance they will be equally good but different with plusses and minuses for both.
From what I know now, the DNA40 offers a boost function to heat up the coil as quick as possible up to the set max temperature. It also offers wattage control and temperature control simultaneously. And it can switch to 'Kanthal mode' we have today if you want. Strong features I think.
But I am very curious what Imeo's VIR will be like in its final production form! My name is still on the list for Proteus.
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dna 40 unfortunately is based on VIR that is patented fog.
And of course VIR was made and patanted a long time ago when dna was still thinking vw.
As for the advantages you mention about dna and about public health and safety, I dont want to mention anything.
Also there is no reason to compare the 2 devices. They share same features but VIR has a technology that you cant imagine or you just didnt understand well yet. But I will soon make a video about how you can work with it
And of course VIR was made and patanted a long time ago when dna was still thinking vw.
As for the advantages you mention about dna and about public health and safety, I dont want to mention anything.
Also there is no reason to compare the 2 devices. They share same features but VIR has a technology that you cant imagine or you just didnt understand well yet. But I will soon make a video about how you can work with it
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You know the Greek/American wedding I'd like to attend. I'd get very drunk.
Then you'll be a rich man soon Imeo...
Yet Darwin was the first VW device on the market I believe?
I think comparing is good. Especially as VIR and the DNA40 will probably turn a new page in vaping history. Bashing and stabbing at one or the other is wrong and not needed IMO.
That video is long overdue Imeo. I think there is no need for a 'mist of mystery'. I can't wait to see it!!
I deliberately stay clear of the health related aspects of these new technologies. I don't have the slightest medical knowledge to judge or value any claims or pre-assumptions nearly everybody seems to copy-cat throughout the vaping industry. I think none of us here - or at the manufacturers - are medical experts in this field (no one is). Very little or no medically accredited and/or conclusive research has been done.
Our 'rocking' Doctor Farsalinos' upcoming research on temperature in the context of vaping (wick material, liquid, metal gassing) will be very interesting.
I'm looking forward to it.
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