Wanting to make sure I am thinking this right. Base/flavor

[geeve]

So I have been doing some reading, and I am thinking I want to try some DIY. I want to start really simple and go from there.

Here is what I am thinking about doing (please tell me if I am on the right track..

I will get this: LARGE 50ml bottle of 18mg unflavored DIY e-Liquid base

the nic level is about where I want it already. Here are my questions:

can I just buy the flavoring and add it?
Is it really that easy to start with?
What affect does the flavoring have on the nic level?
Are flavorings PG based?
Where can I get flavoring? Any B&M type shops? (Hobby Lobby, Michaels)
How do I know how much flavoring to start with?

I prefer high PG juice, so any thoughts on that would be appreciated as well

Thanks everyone!

Geeve

 

[BardicDruid]

It could be a 100% VG, they just don't say.

 

[geeve]

Sorry for that, I called and it is 100% PG Base...

 

[BardicDruid]

Ok then, all you should need to do is add flavor, sounds like a good idea I think I'll give it a try too.

 

[Hoofhearted62]

seems expensive but for a first time diy ok to do. flavors are pg.

 

[Hoofhearted62]

as a start, make SMALL batches, dont try 30 ml batches from the start, if you over flavor and ruin it and throw it away. try 3-5 ml batches first.

 

[Bob Chill]

I bought some 36mg base from my freedom smoked (mfs) and got it 50/50 when i started. Very versatile. You can mix any strength at most preferred ratios.

Buying 18mg will end up being diluted down anywhere from 10-20% with flavors so you won't get 18 strength with your mix. Get 24mg base minimum if you like 18mg juice.

Download the ejuicemeup calc. It's the easiest and most comprehensive I know of. Just plug in what base your starting with, what you want in the end, and what % flavor you're adding. Does all the math for you.

Best to start with the most widely used flavors: The Flavor Apprentice, Capellas, Hangsen, Flavor West.

RTS Vapes has a great selection of flavors but that is only one of many quality vendors. You can buy them direct as well.

 

[geeve]

It is expensive, but they are local to me and I wouldn't have to order from several different places to get bottles, needles, Base etc

Geeve

Edit: Thanks for the heads up Bob! I downloaded the calculator already and was a little overwhelmed by it LOL

 

[geeve]

as a start, make SMALL batches, dont try 30 ml batches from the start, if you over flavor and ruin it and throw it away. try 3-5 ml batches first.

Good advice! I was going to start with 5ml to see what I can do

 

[Vapolith]

I'd recommend checking out RTSvapes. This is what I started with for PG and VG.

60 ml of 36 mg Flavorless Nicotine Liquid - Propylene Glycol USP Grade $6.95
60 ml of Vegetable Glycerin USP Grade Kosher Certified $4.35

Real easy to make a 50/50 blend to get to 18, I know you wanted higher PG, so the math is slightly more difficult.

Check out their prices, I think you'll find them much better.

 

[Bob Chill]

MFS, Wizard Labs, RTS, and E Cig Express have everything you need to get started. I ordered from MFS first and then RTS. All my flavors, syringes, bottles, and glass came from them. I want wizard nic but apparently wizard doesn't want me to. lol

Minimum to get started:

Nic Base
PG & VG (cheap)
Couple Flavors (mind boggling)
5-10-15ml plastic bottles (cheap)
1-3-5ml syringes and at least 1-2 18 guage blunt tip needles (very cheap)

That's really all there is too it.

If you like ry4 type stuff, just get a 10ml bottle of TFA Double RY4 and mix that @ 10% or so and you'll be super happy. Don't worry about complicated mixes and multiple flavors yet. Crawl-walk-run.

You can make do with just a 1ml & 3ml syringe until you're ready to mix bigger bottles. Definitely get a 1 ml for flavors though. You need to be exact with that. Wiggle room is at a premium with some of them.

 

[geeve]

That's great thanks Vapolith!

Thanks again Bob! Multiple tabs now going on the browser

Geeve

 

[geeve]

So it is not anymore complicated to buy Nic, PG and flavoring vs. buying the premade base already?

Geeve

 

[Hoofhearted62]

i think it was 5-6$ each for 250ml of pg and vg. maybe 25$ for 100mg nic. but be very careful with that stuff

 

[Hoofhearted62]

wizard labs flavors 1.49 for 8 ml

 

[geeve]

I get it now LOL! Once I had the tabs open and opened the calculator, I can see what it is doing now. Thanks Everyone!

One more question..... Should I start with the recommended flavor amount and then add from there if it is to weak?

Geeve

 

[RickL]

I have been doing my own juice for 11 months. So I'm still a newbe, but...
Easy E-Juice is about the easiest calculator I've used. Nothing extra, just the basics.
I agree with Bob on what you need to get started. Don't worry the toys will multiply.
And lastly, I currently use RTS for my DIY liquids.

 

[Bob Chill]

I get it now LOL! Once I had the tabs open and opened the calculator, I can see what it is doing now. Thanks Everyone!

One more question..... Should I start with the recommended flavor amount and then add from there if it is to weak?

Geeve

The problem with flavor is the subjective nature. I usually start below the recommended if I'm making a single falve juice. Some are fine and some are weak. Delivery device means a lot too. I'm new to the mech mod / RBA world and man, it's a world of difference. It's like a flavor bomb compared to my tanks. Has me rethinking how i want to mix my stuff.

I like the ranges most people provide. Like 10-15% or something like that. Then it's easy to go 10-12% and see what I think. But what I think and you think can be miles apart.

It's a craft for sure and overwhelming at the beginning. I'm very new too and I just now feel comfortable mixing 1-3 flavor combos. The KISS method couldn't be more important when getting into this game.

 

[geeve]

Makes sense to me! Thanks Bob and a big thanks to everyone who helped

Geeve

 

[Hoosier]

... Should I start with the recommended flavor amount and then add from there if it is to weak?

I'd actually recommend starting a bit lower than recommended and then working up.

Before that, below my avatar is the line "Blog Entries: 3", click the 3 and then go to the Flavoring Levels blog and give it a read. Once you've read that, you should be able to tell if you need more flavoring or not in your first experiment.

It's not difficult, but not everything is intuitive...