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Niteowl, two words; 'selective hearing'. Works for me
Got that mastered!
Thanks, I'll put Flavor West Cinnamon on my to-get list. Is it harsh on your lungs at all? By the end of the day most cinnamon irritates my lungs. What percentage do you use it at? Do you mix it with anything?I have a Flavour West cinnamon flavoring that does not crack plastic tanks that are susceptible to that. I guess not all cinnamon flavoring is created equal
Take Care,
ErnieKim
stra8, (love that name)
Thanks for the advise. I found a nice thickly coated Teflon pan and used a chisel to scarf off a piece. Then a razor to size it and I'm up and running. It appears to me that my original insulator was never a solid piece. It looked like it started out as some kind of putty that was left to harden. In the places that were not dissolved, it was semi hard, but uneven. Kind of looked like the expandable spray foam insulation that oozes out of a tube connected to an aerosol can. Very strange.
Kanger said they are sending me a solid insulator so I'm hoping it is PEEK. If it's not, I'll just go with the Teflon. Seems to be working just fine now. I'll check it in a couple days.
I can't get a straight answer from Kanger on what was used in mine originally, trade secret Perhaps but more likely a quick fix to speed production. Could also have been a failed cost-reduction attempt; we'll never know.
I'm not going to post the pictures of the original. Doesn't seem right and they're giving me a replacement so I'll do right by them.
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I have a Flavour West cinnamon flavoring that does not crack plastic tanks that are susceptible to that. I guess not all cinnamon flavoring is created equal
From where??? Now I am intrigued my friend...
Nevermind...if I knew how to read all would be solved, carry on sir
Hey OP! lol wow, yeah you got quite the welcome here. I think part of it is due to the whole silliness of putting pluid in a tank and being surprised when it eats stuff, but putting a normal strong cinnamon in a glass tank isn't really user error. Pluid and a few others are in their own league. I think seeing some pics would be helpful if you have the time.
Oh right, the reason why I was posting! When I contacted Kanger, they told me the new insulators would be PEEK:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...er-response-subtank-insulator-going-peek.html
Also, I'm hoping the whole teflon thing was a joke.
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Words of wisdom...whyz yous gotz to be so smartz batman, itz not fair
Ceramics are good insulators that are chemically inert and work well at high temperature. There's a reason why fuses were traditionally made using a ceramic material for the body. Get a Squape and forgetaboutit.
There is a thread that talks all about liquids that have been known to harm tanks.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...crack-tanks-ce2s-clearos-55.html#post15077570
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...crack-tanks-ce2s-clearos-55.html#post15077570
I don't find it harsh at all. When I first bought it I used it a lot for a while and then stopped. It's been so long since I mixed it as a main flavor I don't have notes on the recipes I used anymore. I used to mix it alone, or with Flavor west strawberry, or Lorann bavarian cream. These days I sometimes add a drop to 6 ml of juice (a tank) if I feel like it.
I would have to start over to develop recipes again. I would start with 5% alone and work from there. Sorry I can't help more.
Batman,
The Teflon was not a joke. I got .030" off the aluminum, cut it to shape, stuck it in and it's going strong. It didn't taste like hamburger helper so I assume it's fine. I thought Teflon was fine, do you have a concern? I don't do Sub-ohm vamping and don't get anything overly warm; my juice is strong enough without having to push the temperature.
Do you have a Concern with the Teflon?
Thanks and Take Care,
Erniekim
The Teflon was not a joke. I got .030" off the aluminum, cut it to shape, stuck it in and it's going strong. It didn't taste like hamburger helper so I assume it's fine. I thought Teflon was fine, do you have a concern? I don't do Sub-ohm vamping and don't get anything overly warm; my juice is strong enough without having to push the temperature.
Do you have a Concern with the Teflon?
Thanks and Take Care,
Erniekim
Robino,
I don't know what cinnamon flavoring is used in The Mad Alchemist's "Dragons Breath" so I can't really add it to the list; the list is flavorings not juices, right?.
Take Care,
Erniekim
I don't know what cinnamon flavoring is used in The Mad Alchemist's "Dragons Breath" so I can't really add it to the list; the list is flavorings not juices, right?.
Take Care,
Erniekim
It can be either liquids already made or flavors to make liquids with.
It is a great reference tool.
Shady,
"A man's gotta do what a man's gotta do". Besides, it only has to last till I get to Lowes for some Delrin.
Take Care,
"A man's gotta do what a man's gotta do". Besides, it only has to last till I get to Lowes for some Delrin.
Take Care,
I see, OK then.
I agree that it's a good resource and will populate it from here on out.
Thanks.
I agree that it's a good resource and will populate it from here on out.
Thanks.
Heya mate! I agree that that is a beautifully crafted first two sentences. My concern with teflon would be "offgassing."
Teflon, or polytetraflourethylene (don't ask why I remember this) which is painted on the aluminum is basically carbon chains surrounded by a layer of flourine atoms:
Polytetrafluoroethylene - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
When the polymers are broken down, you end up with a bunch of smaller particles and (more importantly) a bunch of types of flourine gases which are known toxins and carcinogens -- outgassing. Aside from the carcinogens part, if you get enough of this you can get "Teflon toxicosis," and in smaller amounts can lead to "polymer fume fever" which gives you flu symptoms.
This happens at very minute levels naturally, and ramps way up the more you apply heat. e.g., pet parrots have died from it at ~160C. Once you're hitting 200-260C it's very noticeable, with a 50%+ mortality rate with birds in one study I saw which involved a bunch of them in a coop and a lightbulb coated in teflon. Birds have really sensitive respiratory systems (canaries & coal mines for methane, etc.), but as with a relationship just because it doesn't kill you doesn't mean it's good for you.
While we know pans can get hot enough (even with food in them) for them be generated at high amounts, you don't have the pan hooked up with a direct pathway right into your lungs while vaping. So, with your insulator, there's always a minute amount, but how hot will the teflon get while you're vaping? I don't really know.
e.g., I can tell you how hot a coil gets when you're dry-burning or testing (480+C) and I believe the coils when wet are 150-250C, which isn't post/insulator. I know if you are sub-ohming that center connection can get very hot, and if you aren't it can still get enough resistance going sometimes to melt insulators now and again in kayfuns. If someone had that temp range to add to my head I'd be grateful.
If I'm missing something I'm entirely open to being educated, but it doesn't feel wise based on what's in my head.
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Wasn't the posted youtuber vaping Pluid? that stuff kills has known to kill o rings and eat glass
Heh it doesn't eat glass, but it'll eat a plastic insulator. And yeah, just send them an email.
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