Warning: My Aspire Atlantis coil just FELL APART while I was vaping, and particles got lodged in my throat.

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Originally Posted by Alawot
Maybe this is a noob question, but I'm confused. How is 23 watts only coming up at 3.8 volts? I'm currently using my aspire mini at 11 watts, and it is showing 4.6 volt.


So the math still isn't adding up..

Assuming standard aspire coil with 1.6 Ohm
3.8v * 3.8v / 1.6 = 9.025 watt

and backwards 23watt * 1.6 = 36.8 square root of 36.8 = 6.066 v

Sorry not trying to derail the thread, but want to better understand the specific details when this occurred.

The Atlantis coil is below an Ohm in resistance, believe around 0.5 ohms

3.8vx3.8v/0.5ohms = 24.32 Watts by the math, if the coil is exactly 0.5ohms.
 

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Partially right; Its a cotton paper wraped around 2 halves of a ceramic material wad. And this ceramic wadding can disintigrate in certain juices, or under certain conditions. This is the issue with the current heads and why alot of vapers are upset with them.

The chances are low and the stories very few. But I know my cotton heads wont break down like this, so I choose not to take the chance.

Atlantis is a nice tank and all, and if Aspire truly goes to OCC heads, they will have a surefire winner. But until then, my atlantis is shelved ^^

They have switched to the all cotton heads. Here's a few pics of the one I dissected a few weeks ago for you. :)

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Does it vape/taste better than the originals?

I personally think so. I have had no problems with them whatsoever, great flavor, wicking, and vapor production. Some people have reported being able to taste the cotton but I suspect that will go away after a break in period. My hubs thinks they are exactly the same, maybe a little better flavor. No complaints from him either though. It's probably similar to juice in that aspect that taste is subjective.
 

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I'm so sorry to hear what happened to you. I'm glad I solely use my own coils. I know exactly what goes into them.simple organic cotton wicking media. Those pre made coils are so expensive that it amazes me! I save a ton just winding my own. I've also noticed home wound coils last so much longer too. When the coil itself gets gunk I just burn the stuff off and it's good to go for another round. I can't see paying that much for coils. It's very scarey what happened to you. You might consider making your own coils as well? I know it's not for everyone but it's a lot easier to do than you might think.well, I just wanted to pop in and let you know I'm glad your doing better! If I were you, I would consider contacting the company and let them know what happened. It would be interesting to hear there response. Best of luck.

Same here. Also with the use of xc116(rXw) wick, a wick and coil can last better than 3 months. I would also like to here their response to this incident.
 

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this is the major reason I topped using my atlantis tank. After watching several videos where the wicking just disintigrated in peoples fingers, I put it down and walked away.

If we can confirm 100% OCC heads for the atlantis, I may reconsider it. but until then, I wont be using mine any further.

I personally wouldn't consider doing business w/them ... don't they have any engineers in that company who can test these before they hoist them onto the guinea pig vaping community. Topics about the coils have been going on since december. Before that, it was the nautilus chamber materials that weren't to spec.

I would not be happy if I had purchased a whole bunch of coils before they changed them (and finally admitted their problem).

Are they willing to take back all the badly engineered coils that people purchased?


In the words of my grandmother: "we teach people how to treat us"...........
 
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I'm coming on here to give a fair warning to everyone, and letting them know that there IS something wrong with these coils. Against my better judgement, I've been using the Aspire Atlantis (not with the new cotton coils), for about 3 weeks now.
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Right now, I have color, phlegm like material coming from both nose and mouth, because my body is trying to expel whatever it is that is stuck in my throat. I hope for my sake it'll resolve itself, but for now, I'm stuck with a terrible cough, and a feeling in my throat I can't get rid of.

I'm only posting this as a warning to others - be CAREFUL with the Atlantis. I did NOTHING out of the ordinary, and it was only running at 3.8volts (22watts or so).

Super, first of all, I'm terribly sorry that this has happened to you. As you know, Aspire used fiberglass/ceramic paper in their BVC coils. This has been discussed here and on other forums since September 2014, when those coils were introduced. Many of us have had serious doubts about using this kind of material as wicks... Here's but one of the many threads discussing the potential risks of fiberglass in vaping:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ent-atlantis-coils-material.html#post14865956

The good news is that Aspire finally decided to switch to organic cotton in Atlantis (already on the market) and Nautilus coils (will start shipping on March 2, per Tina's direct response to my query on their forum). No word yet about the other, non-Nautilus and non-Atlantis BVC coils, but I'm sure that those are next.

In the meantime, I hope you feel better soon--and if you don't, please see a doctor!
 
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Sorry to hear what you're going through, and I hope it works out for the best.

Not just Atlantis users should be worried.... Anyone still vaping with disposable heads with silica wicks (a known carcinogen) should strongly reconsider, and find a setup that allows you to use cotton.

An old thread on the subject...
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/health-safety-vaping/377764-dangers-silica-wicks.html

Silicon dioxide - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

IN THE NEWS: Aspire’s Atlantis Heads, Silica Wicking, & Silicosis

Err... not quite...

There's good silica and bad silica.

I'll post this one more time--just to clarify things for those who have not been following the fiberglass drama closely:

There are different kinds of silica; one kind is OK for vaping--and it's been discussed on this forum for quite some time, long before Aspire introduced their fiberglass/ceramic wicking material. Amorphous silica, commonly used in wicks by all (or most) e-cig manufacturers, has been deemed safe by our resident chemists and is even approved by FDA for use in food and medicine.

Please read this post by tenshi, and this one by Boden, and [URL="http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/health-safety-vaping/377764-dangers-silica-wicks-5.html#post9181477"]this one by Kurt, [/URL]our resident chemist and a person I trust completely in all matters related to chemistry.

More on the subject:

http://srs.unm.edu/industrial-hygiene/media/docs/silica.pdf

"Amorphous Silica: Multiple studies have found amorphous silica to be biologically inert when
ingested and inhaled, with the exception of extruded fiberglass and ceramic fibers (which have been
designated as carcinogens by the National Toxicology Program), which are hazardous due to their
very small size and their high length to width aspect ratio. Because of this inertness, the US Food
and Drug Administration permits the use of amorphous silica (not fiberglass or ceramic fibers!) in food
and medicine.
"

Just for the record.

Other than that, the subject is now moot since Aspire is making a change to all organic cotton, so there's no further need to beat that horse any more.
 

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I was hitting my Atlantis and one time a gerbil actually came up through the drip tip, lodged into my throat, scurried it's way back up into my sinus and squeezed it's way out of my left ear. What a vape that was[emoji11]

Based on most descriptions of events with Atlantis coils, I would suggest we're dealing with alien eggs. You got one that has actually hatched.

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I was hitting my Atlantis and one time a gerbil actually came up through the drip tip, lodged into my throat, scurried it's way back up into my sinus and squeezed it's way out of my left ear. What a vape that was[emoji11]

The Atlantis, from what I've heard has had a problem from the very beginning with the gerbil ejection issue. I refuse to use any Aspire products because of this Mammalian Malfunction. Please post pics whenever the mood bloody well hits you.
 

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Above are the best pictures I could manage. The first picture shows the biggest particle that was sitting in the drip tip. It feels like silica/gelatin.

The second picture illustrates the complete MUSH that the wicking material was, directly underneath the mesh that BECAME UNSEATED ON ITS OWN.

Someone in this thread said they didn't understand how wicking material/particulate could dislodge from an atlantis coil, and go through the drip tip. I ask that you simply look at the coil itself, and it should be advice as to how this happens. There is a screen that is covering the wicking material. The wicking material itself is unusual, and is NOT regular silica. If the screen becomes unseated, like it did on mine, the wicking material can spit RIGHT THROUGH into your throat.

Keep in mind this was a BRAND NEW coil. I was vaping at LOW wattage (compared to what the Atlantis is designed for). That means that there is a manufacturing error/defect here. It shouldn't surprise anyone that Aspire has ALREADY replaced their coils now. They no longer use the same wicking material, instead they new use COTTON.

I highly suggest avoiding the Aspire Atlantis. It is a defective device. After talking to several people on facebook, I have found out that this has happened to numerous people.

If for some reason what happened to me and others doesn't scare you away, at LEAST replace your current coils and get the new cotton ones. Be safe guys!
 

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Partially right; Its a cotton paper wraped around 2 halves of a ceramic material wad. And this ceramic wadding can disintigrate in certain juices, or under certain conditions. This is the issue with the current heads and why alot of vapers are upset with them.

The chances are low and the stories very few. But I know my cotton heads wont break down like this, so I choose not to take the chance.

Atlantis is a nice tank and all, and if Aspire truly goes to OCC heads, they will have a surefire winner. But until then, my atlantis is shelved ^^

They already have switched to organic cotton, I've seen the coils from several people who I talk to online, and it was verified by someone contacted at Aspire.



Also, I saw above someone said it is ceramic not silica. Whatever it is, it falls apart, turns REALLY gooey, like sludge. I've never seen this in wicking material.

To take the pictures I took, I removed the crappy screen that was already unattached, and there was a layer of slime/goo/sludge that was EXTREMELY sticky right under the screen. I guess whatever wicking material they use turns to this.

Again, its obvious why they changed their heads already. However, this should have NEVER gone to market the way it did. EXTREMELY dangerous, and very , very poor quality control testing.
 

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That IS nasty. Thanks for the pics. I will likely check mine periodically to see if the screen is dislodged. What's the easiest way to see if your coils have the new cotton wick? Is it easily discernible from the old stuff visually? Obviously don'r want to have to destroy the coils only to find out they are the cotton wick version.
 

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I personally wouldn't consider doing business w/them ... don't they have any engineers in that company who can test these before they hoist them onto the guinea pig vaping community. Topics about the coils have been going on since december. Before that, it was the nautilus chamber materials that weren't to spec.

I would not be happy if I had purchased a whole bunch of coils before they changed them (and finally admitted their problem).

Are they willing to take back all the badly engineered coils that people purchased?


In the words of my grandmother: "we teach people how to treat us"...........


EXACTLY!!!

They *SHOULD* have issued a recall on the original coils, and either offered to REPLACE the ones people have already bought, or offered a DISCOUNT for those who already bought coils from them. Since they have a scratch and validate code on all of their 5packs, it should be easy enough for each person to prove how many packs they have purchased.

The sad thing is, Aspire hasn't even issued a recall. They are basically trying to sweep this disaster under the rug, and hope for the best. I haven't heard ANYTHING from them. Nothing admitting their negligence, no apoligee, NOTHING.

In fact, as far as I know, they are claiming the only reason they switched to organic cotton is because of "popular demand". Yea, right, GIVE ME A BREAK. You don't just completely switch wicking materials and stop producing the old ones, a month or so after release, out of the blue. IT is obvious many people have had problems
 

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No offense, but I think I've been on these forums long enough and posted enough to where it wouldn't make sense that I would come on here and lie about something like this. What would I have to gain?

I work 50 hours a week, have a 5 year old child, and many responsibilities. Sorry I didn't immediately post "proof" for you guys, but the whole purpose of this thread wasn't to prove anything.....it was to warn others to either stop using their Aspire Atlantis, or in the very least, switch to the new cotton coils, so they don't have to go through what I went through.

My throat is still extremely sore, especially on the right side. When this happened, it irritated my throat so bad, that literally every single breath I took, I was coughing terribly. It actually made my sinuses react, and I had phelgm coming up out of my nose and throat.


Anyway, I'm not the first person this happened to, and I certainly won't be the last. As I mentioned, my only goal in making this thread was to reach a few people on this forum, and give my personal experience in the hopes that maybe others will be able to avoid something similar, or WORSE happening.
 
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EXACTLY!!!

They *SHOULD* have issued a recall on the original coils, and either offered to REPLACE the ones people have already bought, or offered a DISCOUNT for those who already bought coils from them. Since they have a scratch and validate code on all of their 5packs, it should be easy enough for each person to prove how many packs they have purchased.

The sad thing is, Aspire hasn't even issued a recall. They are basically trying to sweep this disaster under the rug, and hope for the best. I haven't heard ANYTHING from them. Nothing admitting their negligence, no apoligee, NOTHING.

In fact, as far as I know, they are claiming the only reason they switched to organic cotton is because of "popular demand". Yea, right, GIVE ME A BREAK. You don't just completely switch wicking materials and stop producing the old ones, a month or so after release, out of the blue. IT is obvious many people have had problems

You got some kinda funky heads because I've never seen an Atlantis head turn to sludge....
 

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That IS nasty. Thanks for the pics. I will likely check mine periodically to see if the screen is dislodged. What's the easiest way to see if your coils have the new cotton wick? Is it easily discernible from the old stuff visually? Obviously don'r want to have to destroy the coils only to find out they are the cotton wick version.



The new coils actually have a different wording on the outer package. It actually MENTIONS cotton on the outer package. IT says something like "Let the coil sit for 2 minutes after filling to allow the cotton to absorb the e-liquid"


Since the coils are literally BRAND new....you will definitely not be able to find them everywhere. Hopefully someone else here can chime in on A) How to distinguish the ceramic from cotton coils, and B) where to purchase the organic cotton coils
 
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