Well, the party's over...ban at work

[AndriaD]

Also, it normalizes unhealthy eating, because everyone can see it happening. And what if I bring my kids to work, what kind of example is this for them? Anyone who wants to eat unhealthy food should eat it outside by the dumpsters, along with the smokers.

Or give the overweight an incentive to lose weight, and not force this rule on those who are NOT visibly obese, but only on those who are OBVIOUSLY obese -- it's kinda hard to hide being 30% (or more!) over normal body weight -- you can't really "stealth fat". Overweight people are also very hard on chairs -- a friend of our son's once broke one of our chairs, because of his extreme obesity. After that, he was allowed to sit in only ONE chair in our house, one that was sturdy enough to actually support that huge amount of weight and not cave in. So give the obviously obese a "chair deduction" from their paycheck.

Andria

 

[skoony]

Where's the research saying vaping is harmless? Remember when cigarettes came out Doctors were prescribing them for all kinds of maladies.

your comparing paid shills to research?
that's what they where.
whats happening now in fact is 180 degrees opposite
of back then.
back then the scientific evidence indicated that
smoking may be hazardous and was po poo'ed with
the same quasi sophistry and bad science we
face now.
we now have over 2000 studies all indicating the
relative safety of e-cigs and face the same tactics
that were employed against the folks that were
trying to prove tobacco's harm back in the day.
mike

 

[Treeburner1983]

I asked people at work if it bothered anybody. When I started I was working with someone with pretty severe copd, and she had no problem with the smell or vapor whereas even a hint of cigarette smell would set her off. In fact, people stop in my office to smell what flavor I'm vaping. I use it in meetings too, but I don't blow any clouds then but just hold it in. If anybody complained about the smell I would gladly stop, but it's never once come to that.

-Treeburner

 

[AndriaD]

I asked people at work if it bothered anybody. When I started I was working with someone with pretty severe copd, and she had no problem with the smell or vapor whereas even a hint of cigarette smell would set her off. In fact, people stop in my office to smell what flavor I'm vaping. I use it in meetings too, but I don't blow any clouds then but just hold it in. If anybody complained about the smell I would gladly stop, but it's never once come to that.

-Treeburner

I vape in my mom's house, and she has COPD; the vape doesn't bother her whatever. Even last weekend when I accidentally sent a cloud in her direction, I was jumping up fanning away the vapor, and she's all "don't sweat the small stuff, it didn't bother me." She doesn't even really smell anything from it, though my husband seems to object to the scent of my FAVORITE vape... I just smile and say, "it's better than cigarette smoke though, right?" And he agrees and kindly shuts it.

Andria

 

[philoshop]

The public and private bans and restrictions currently being put in place have nothing to do with science, public health, or rational thought. Vaping looks like smoking. Period. And 50+ years of political indoctrination have led everyone to be terrified of anything that even looks like smoking. Hence, vaping is an easy target for the political fearmongers with visions of absolute control.
The next step will be banks refusing to give business loans to anyone who allows vaping.

 

[gpjoe]

I asked people at work if it bothered anybody. When I started I was working with someone with pretty severe copd, and she had no problem with the smell or vapor whereas even a hint of cigarette smell would set her off. In fact, people stop in my office to smell what flavor I'm vaping. I use it in meetings too, but I don't blow any clouds then but just hold it in. If anybody complained about the smell I would gladly stop, but it's never once come to that.

-Treeburner

Until today it was much the same for me, minus the meetings. I would just vape at my desk after asking those around me if they had any problem with it, and none objected. I would never walk around and strictly vaped at my desk.

 

[sub4me]

Read my first post - vaping is NOT smoking.

I used to go outside to smoke. I vaped at my desk. Now I'm classified as a smoker by the ignorants. Make sense? Not to me.

No offense but doing it at your desk isn't working, which is the reason your there, not to vape or smoke. You vape and smoke on your time not on the time someone is paying you to work.

You obviuosly didn;t even read my post. Didn't you start to vape to quit smoking? If you couldn't smoke at your desk why would you vape at your desk? Vaping should be a means to an end.

Right.

This should go under my "This Makes Me Cringe" topic. I hate how people who vape think they are civil rights marchers. If your company creates a policy tou don;t like, QUIT.

Exactly. I just don't follow the logic of I should be able to vape and smoke at work like its some right.

 

[Robino1]

Vaping = not working?

Really?

Do both hands have to be busy doing something every second that they are at the desk?

Let me take a moment to think about this.... hmmm in that second.. I took a vape. It didn't slow down my production of typing words. It did give me a moment to think about what I wanted to type.

If I take a phone call..... I should be typing with my other hand...Right? That doesn't work out so well.

 

[sub4me]

Except from a employers perspective that's just not the case. So we can agree to disagree.

 

[caramel]

Desk work that permanently keeps both hands occupied.... oh yeah definitely.

BTW are obese people in a plane a lesser nuisance than someone vaping?

 

[Alto101]

Except from a employers perspective that's just not the case. So we can agree to disagree.

That is your opinion, not a fact. I am sure there are some companies that would prefer that people stay at their desks (and vape) instead of running outside every hour.

 

[readeuler]

No offense but doing it at your desk isn't working, which is the reason your there, not to vape

Curious statement, Dwight.

 

[sub4me]

That is your opinion, not a fact. I am sure there are some companies that would prefer that people stay at their desks (and vape) instead of running outside every hour.

My opinion matters little at your work, however the ones who are paying you matter the most when someone is at work. Most employers are required to provide break times after and number of hours are reached. At these break times would be when one should be outside or at a designated area for smoking or vaping, eating, or whatever one may do.

 

[gpjoe]

No offense but doing it at your desk isn't working, which is the reason your there, not to vape or smoke. You vape and smoke on your time not on the time someone is paying you to work.

I'm having a hard time even taking this seriously, but here goes:

How can you possibly know what I do or where I work or if it is possible for me to do my job and vape at the same time?

Besides that, when I am forced to a smoking area (outside) there is no question that my productivity drops to exactly zero.

 

[Alto101]

My opinion matters little at your work, however the ones who are paying you matter the most when someone is at work. Most employers are required to provide break times after and number of hours are reached. At these break times would be when one should be outside or at a designated area for smoking or vaping, eating, or whatever one may do.

Again, your opinion. I am sure that some companies agree with you however there are some companies that do not agree with you. Every company is different, every boss is different and every individual is different. Your blanket statements do not work.

 

[Alto101]

I'm having a hard time even taking this seriously, but here goes:

How can you possibly know what I do or where I work or if it is possible for me to do my job and vape at the same time?

Besides that, when I am forced to a smoking area (outside) there is no question that my productivity drops to exactly zero.

Exactly! Lots of people work in a professional setting and spend a good deal of time thinking about their current task. Taking a quick vape does not distract from this and likely enhances the thought process.

 

[sub4me]

I recall a female years ago at an office who would constantly eat at her desk. Her performance was rated at less then 30 percent of others doing the same job. Now she maintained she was at her desk working and shouldn't be fired and even tried to sue (unsuccessfully) saying she was fired unjustly. In the meanwhile other workers were taking up her slack and customers were often put on hold because she was busy doing her own thing while being paid to work.

An employer wants to get the most out of the time your there working and getting paid and that's what it comes down to.

 

[Alto101]

I recall a female years ago at an office who would constantly eat at her desk. Her performance was rated at less then 30 percent of others doing the same job. Now she maintained she was at her desk working and shouldn't be fired and even tried to sue (unsuccessfully) saying she was fired unjustly. In the meanwhile other workers were taking up her slack and customers were often put on hold because she was busy doing her own thing while being paid to work.

An employer wants to get the most out of the time your there working and getting paid and that's what it comes down to.

You have a very narrow viewpoint. This may be the case for that worker but not all workers. Many professionals eat at their desk and it increases their productivity since they are not leaving the premises for lunch. Very similar logic can be applied to vaping.

 

[Robino1]

What does that have to do with vaping?

 

[Robino1]

You have a very narrow viewpoint. This may be the case for that worker but not all workers. Many professionals eat at their desk and it increases their productivity since they are not leaving the premises for lunch. Very similar logic can be applied to vaping.

Which brings to mind my last employer. She would have rather I ate at my desk and work than to take that break and get away from work. I took my lunch hour and walked. I needed that break.