IKR?!?!I just use common sense...seems to be a super power these days...
acronym for "I know, right?"IKR?!?!
Yesacronym for "I know, right?"
Heart disease, like I said in the second sentence of the post you quoted.and that biggest cause is?
regards,
Mike
In Edmonton Canada we have pretty strict laws. No vaping where it's no smoking - includes any public place indoors or outdoors, playgrounds, bus stops, outdoor restaurant patios, even bars. It's ridiculous but they still think it's smoking. I vape outside at work and my car and home.That's unfortunate, especially for someone in the industry.
Are Canadian laws that restrictive.. or are a lot of Canadians hostile to vaping?
In Edmonton Canada we have pretty strict laws. No vaping where it's no smoking - includes any public place indoors or outdoors, playgrounds, bus stops, outdoor restaurant patios, even bars. It's ridiculous but they still think it's smoking. I vape outside at work and my car and home.
Possibly true,then again they are so far off with lung cancer one wondersHeart disease, like I said in the second sentence of the post you quoted.![]()

This is the ONLY correct answer in this entire thread.If in a setting that is typically smoke free, I will ask if vaping is allowed. Sometimes I get a yes, sometimes I get a no. I abide by the wishes of the establishment. If I get a yes, I vape very respectfully. Most of the time I release no vapor.
If I am in a hotel room, I will vape. I do not ask if it is allowed or not. They will never know.
When I go to someone's house, I will ask and explain if they do not know what it is. Typically my friends all know that I was a smoker and that I have quit smoking with the aid of vaping. I have not been asked not to vape.
I will vape in an airport seating area. If no vapor comes out, am I really vaping? With the advent of having to be at the airport hours ahead of time....... (some have knocked that down to 75 minutes ahead) I have perfected the no vapor escaping.
Outdoors is fair game.
You must be universally loved!!!Blow huge clouds while watching a movie in the theater
Blow huge clouds while shopping indoors
Blow huge clouds while eating out
If that thing ever blows, climate change will no longer be a concern.If you REALLY want to get all worried about the planet then worry about the volcanic areas known as super magma caldera, which if even one erupts could kill everything on the planet. Am I worried? No. I'm vaping...
I remember when this forum was smaller.I know that is not what you are getting at. The same mental process is the same though. Demonize, demoralize, shame. Even though they are Not the same, they are being treated the same. Even following the same playbook to rid the world of nicotine users.
If it produces something like smoke, it must be bad.
I know and feel your painI remember when this forum was smaller.
Back then it was quicker and easier to teach the newer folks.
Now it seems there are too many new folks and not enough teachers.
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When Im in an enclosed area(Mall, Grocery Store, Movies, Restaurant, etc.) my mod stays in my pocket. I don't feel the need to vape when Im inside those places.
The ongoing debate concerning whether or not second hand smoke
is one that will no doubt continue for quite some time. One can have
a battle of studies until as they say the cows come home.
For me personally it's not any study done by one side or the other
that has influenced my opinion on the mater but, what hasn't been
done if the figures estimating 40 to 60 thousand second hand smoke
related deaths per year are even remotely true. I ask myself,if in fact
these figures are true why hasn't there been any criminal wrongful
death prosecutions of any offenders. Not even reckless endangerment.
Why hasn't a coroner (most likely in California) signed his report,"Mrs
Jones died of homicide as the result of her husbands 30 year smoking
habit that caused her COPD"? Where are all the outraged Doctors complaints
to the child protective agencies accusing Mary of causing her child's severe
asthma? I suspect there hasn't been any of this sort of activity because
the evidence wouldn't hold up in a criminal court. I freely admit in civil
court all bets are off. Even so the recent jailing of that CEO? from the
peanut butter factory may lead down the road to all sorts of things.
Do I believe smoking is safe? Of course not. Do I believe second hand
smoke is killing 40 to 60 thousand people a year roughly 4 to 6 thousand
of these children? Quite frankly no. Like the extract in this article states
lacking no clear link to lung cancer we have have to find other risk factors.
"The fact that passive smoking may not be strongly associated with lung cancer points to a need to find other risk factors for the disease [in nonsmokers],” said Ange Wang,
No Clear Link Between Passive Smoking and Lung Cancer
I have no idea if second hand smoke causes lung cancer, Mike. But I sure can't handle that stench anymore!
Regards
Mike