wow!
ROSA: i am going to have to follow up with the clove vapers to find out which is the preferred and why, but thank you for this link. it's not easy to duplicate the Djarum Black flavor, particularly because they used to dip the end of the filter in something as well, so the flavor was right on your lip, not just in the
tobacco being smoked. not all kreteks have that.
i was mad about the stupid clove ban, but if i can find an e-clove alternative, it will be a blessing in disguise!