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What will the FDA do in April

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This is from an online article I read published by the Gothamist. This just a snippet of the whole article, but it gives some insight as to the direction that the FDA may be heading in April regarding e-cigs.


"That law, which President Obama called a "extraordinary accomplishment," prevents tobacco companies from advertising within 1,000 feet of a school, banned cigarette flavors (other than menthol), and for the first time gave the FDA the power to regulate an industry that had regularly been poisoning their customers. But the FDA, an agency that regulates more than $1 trillion in consumer goods—25% of all expenditures in the country—has been slow to respond to the e-cigarette market, and hasn't yet put any regulation in place.

“We’re moving to release for public comment a proposed rule to regulate additional categories of tobacco products,” said Jennifer Haliski, the spokeswoman for the FDA's Office for the Center of tobacco Products. That proposed rule may impose restrictions on e-cigarettes that already exist—new warning labels, a ban on flavors, advertising limitations, additional taxes—and ones that may be specific to e-cigarettes, such as regulating nicotine intake or the ingredients that can be put into e-cigarettes.
The rule is due by April of this year, but once proposed, a lengthy public comment period would ensue, and months would stretch on before the regulations would be enforceable by law. "


Here is the link for those who are interested in the whole article, as I don't want any of this to be take out of context.

http://gothamist.com/2013/01/22/e-cigs_e-cigarettes_njoy_vaping_vap.php
 

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Yes flavors, unfortunately for the FDA the cat is out of the bag on that one. Ask any DIYer, you can always add flavors to your juice. As for the taxes, the FDA is trying to say that the liquid is a tobacco product. IMO it clearly isn't, nicotine isn't tobacco, it comes from tobacco. But there are many plant sources for nicotine, it can even be made synthetically. But, the nic that we are using most likely comes from tobacco, so is that the hitch to tax it. If that nicotine came from another source other than tobacco they wouldn't have a leg to stand on. What ever they come up with, I'm sure it'll end up in court. This fight is long from over. I am concerned over the idea that the FDA may take control of what goes in the juice, example, what if the FDA wants more things added, you know to help out big pharma. I know it's all speculation at this time, but trying to stay one step ahead of these clowns, cause as we all know HC will tow the line.
 

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I can't see them adding more "things" to juice, the ingredients have to be listed, it would cause an uproar.

I can see the mafia in Ottawa wanting their cut of the e-cig industry, but they're all ready getting it, we pay taxes on our vaping needs. Will be interesting to see how they'd justify extra taxes on it. It sure can't be to offset the added burden to the health care system. We've all eliminated that by switching to vaping.
 

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You bring up a good point zoiDman. Pre-filled cartos are a good way for the FDA to keep flavors out of the mainstream. Vapors are pretty crafty, if they do that, I'm sure a you-tube video will popup and show how to add flavor. On the other hand if they impose pre-filled cartos on us, they will just create a huge black market where they don't have any control. The FDA really needs to think this through, I can't imagine Obama on TV declaring a war on liquid nicotine without looking ridiculous. If he did the Republicans would be falling about place in total hysterics. I can see it now.
 

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You bring up a good point zoiDman. Pre-filled cartos are a good way for the FDA to keep flavors out of the mainstream. Vapors are pretty crafty, if they do that, I'm sure a you-tube video will popup and show how to add flavor. On the other hand if they impose pre-filled cartos on us, they will just create a huge black market where they don't have any control. The FDA really needs to think this through, I can't imagine Obama on TV declaring a war on liquid nicotine without looking ridiculous. If he did the Republicans would be falling about place in total hysterics. I can see it now.

I think the FDA and It’s Silent Overlords, Big Business, have given this a Tremendous amount of thought. Don’t ever think they haven’t.

The e-Cigarettes market is going to change because it Currently doesn’t work for Big Business. So the FDA is going to change it.

It doesn’t have anything to do with Good or Bad. Right or Wrong. Healthy or Unhealthy. It’s all about getting the Profits back where they belong. In the Pockets of Big Business and out of those Pesky, Free Market Mom and Pop Retailers.

BTW - Pre-Filled Cartos are also a good way to Limit the Nicotine mg. And make a nice $5 per 5 Carto package that can be sold Anywhere that Cigarettes are sold.
 

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I think the FDA and It’s Silent Overlords, Big Business, have given this a Tremendous amount of thought. Don’t ever think they haven’t.

The e-Cigarettes market is going to change because it Currently doesn’t work for Big Business. So the FDA is going to change it.

It doesn’t have anything to do with Good or Bad. Right or Wrong. Healthy or Unhealthy. It’s all about getting the Profits back where they belong. In the Pockets of Big Business and out of those Pesky, Free Market Mom and Pop Retailers.

BTW - Pre-Filled Cartos are also a good way to Limit the Nicotine mg. And make a nice $5 per 5 Carto package that can be sold Anywhere that Cigarettes are sold.

It’s all about getting the Profits back where they belong. In the Pockets of Big Business and government and out of those Pesky, Free Market Mom and Pop Retailers and citizens.

Fixed it for you
 

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It’s all about getting the Profits back where they belong. In the Pockets of Big Business and government and out of those Pesky, Free Market Mom and Pop Retailers and citizens.

Fixed it for you

Thank you...

The US Government was going to Tax it no matter who made the Profits.

Having Big Business, who by the way provides the Money for the Elections, make the Profits only seems Natural.
 

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I agree, that packaging is perfect for big business and the government. I still think it could be argued that e-juice is not a tobacco product, anymore than peanuts are a snickers bar.

It can be agrued. But the FDA will "deem" it to be a Tobacco Product very Soon.

Right or Wrong. That is what the FDA is Going to do.
 
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