whats so great about provari?

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    Originally Posted by PLANofMAN

    Sorry, anything that does not have reverse battery protection is outdated.

    There are many PV's that DON'T NEED reverse battery protction. They work the same either way.
    Only electronic components care about polarity. The little coil that heats the juice doesn't care which way the electrons flow.

    Did you know that the Evolv Kick-2 reverses the polarity .... twice?
     
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    svoemesto Semovar, vv/VW, 1 year warranty, modular, German engineered.

    I've had a Semovar since October. I finally broke down and got a Provari not long ago. I had one on loan awhile back. It's a nice device, built well and performs well however I just ordered a second Semovar with a different finish from the first. IMO the build quality is hands down superior and its feature set is more advanced and versatile. Performance is about equal in VV mode. Provari doesn't do VW so no point in going further into that.

    I will continue to use my Provari of course. It's a great device as I said. The Semovars however will be my primaries.
     

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    I've had a Semovar since October. I finally broke down and got a Provari not long ago. I had one on loan awhile back. It's a nice device, built well and performs well however I just ordered a second Semovar with a different finish from the first. IMO the build quality is hands down superior and its feature set is more advanced and versatile. Performance is about equal in VV mode. Provari doesn't do VW so no point in going further into that.

    I will continue to use my Provari of course. It's a great device as I said. The Semovars however will be my primaries.

    Congrats on the Semovar....Given what SvoeMesto did with the Kayfun, I can only expect the same level of attention to detail and quality in the Semovar. It is also a very elegant looking piece.

    I went with the ProVari simply because of it's track record thus far, and I know that in the US, it's relatively easy to get serviced. What is the warranty and repair options with the Semovar?

    EDIT: I'd love to see a Semovar on a scope. It would be interesting what the numbers would look like compared to a ProVari or DNA 20/30
     

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    Congrats on the Semovar....Given what SvoeMesto did with the Kayfun, I can only expect the same level of attention to detail and quality in the Semovar. It is also a very elegant looking piece.

    I went with the ProVari simply because of it's track record thus far, and I know that in the US, it's relatively easy to get serviced. What is the warranty and repair options with the Semovar?

    So far, so good on it, P.

    That's a stout, first-rate mod, that Semovar. It's backed by quality service, too.



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    PLANofMAN

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    Absolutely. I researched every tube mod between $100 and $400, and the Futura, for me, is the best choice for my money. I'm really looking forward to receiving mine.
    Don't get e-juice on the screen...and the 510 connection isn't sealed, so be careful there too. DNA 20 chipsets don't play well with e-juice.

    There are many PV's that DON'T NEED reverse battery protction. They work the same either way.
    Only electronic components care about polarity. The little coil that heats the juice doesn't care which way the electrons flow.

    Did you know that the Evolv Kick-2 reverses the polarity .... twice?
    You'll get some heavy voltage drop if you put a battery in a DNA 20 device backwards, and if you get a dead short in a mech with the battery in backwards...ouch!
     

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    Don't get e-juice on the screen...and the 510 connection isn't sealed, so be careful there too. DNA 20 chipsets don't play well with e-juice.
    No problem. I'm neither clumsy nor careless. If you have problems spilling e-liquid all over when you fill your tank, I'd suggest taking it off of your APV before filling it. The 510 problem that a few of the first units had has been rectified.

    You'll get some heavy voltage drop if you put a battery in a DNA 20 device backwards, and if you get a dead short in a mech with the battery in backwards...ouch!
    The Futura has reverse battery protection.

    By the way, the Futura now uses the DNA 30 chip.
     

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    Hey guys - been reading about these posts - from my personal experience here is what I have to say
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    I am an admin / moderator at a group in Facebook called coil porn - it houses 6000 members -

    I have seen it all - done it all - chased it all - when it comes down to it - sub-ohms is like that special kid in class who needs special attention.

    Running your coils below 1 ohm does absolutely nothing, except for bragging rights.

    I have touched all mods, I own a nemesis, and an MVP, I have two 18650s 30 a battery, ohm checker, and a plethora of juices. In fact , I don't care for either of those.

    I have the Provari , and igoW. Five minutes ago I decided to wrap 28g 11 times , my ohms came out to 1.8

    I wrapped it on my IGO - then placed it on my Provari.

    Before I love the Provari.
    But now, words can't express how delighted I am that I'm running a customized setup on a 18350.

    I've been vaping since 2010, I help run a vape shop, and I help my friend run an ejuice vape business, - I cannot believe how intuitive things are when it comes to my Provari.

    I would not give it up for the world. Offer me a dna30 and four Itaste VTRs along with a genuine caravela and a nemesis mod, for my Provari, you know what I'm going to say ?

    No thanks.

    Have a good night guys


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    Hey guys - been reading about these posts - from my personal experience here is what I have to say
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    I am an admin / moderator at a group in Facebook called coil porn - it houses 6000 members -

    I have seen it all - done it all - chased it all - when it comes down to it - sub-ohms is like that special kid in class who needs special attention.

    Running your coils below 1 ohm does absolutely nothing, except for bragging rights.

    I have touched all mods, I own a nemesis, and an MVP, I have two 18650s 30 a battery, ohm checker, and a plethora of juices. In fact , I don't care for either of those.

    I have the Provari , and igoW. Five minutes ago I decided to wrap 28g 11 times , my ohms came out to 1.8

    I wrapped it on my IGO - then placed it on my Provari.

    Before I love the Provari.
    But now, words can't express how delighted I am that I'm running a customized setup on a 18350.

    I've been vaping since 2010, I help run a vape shop, and I help my friend run an ejuice vape business, - I cannot believe how intuitive things are when it comes to my Provari.

    I would not give it up for the world. Offer me a dna30 and four Itaste VTRs along with a genuine caravela and a nemesis mod, for my Provari, you know what I'm going to say ?

    No thanks.

    Have a good night guys


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    Well said. I feel the same way about mine. Might have to order a zombie edition mini for a little birthday present to me if they still have them available this summer
     

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    Hey guys - been reading about these posts - from my personal experience here is what I have to say
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    I am an admin / moderator at a group in Facebook called coil porn - it houses 6000 members -

    Hey welcome, Heinz. I'm on that group and yeah, after a while I didn't pay too much attention to it because it was just over the top with the coils = ego thing. :)

    Intuitive is right. With my Provaris the only thing I have to do is change the batteries when the lights blink and occasionally adjust the voltage. I was chasing the dragon a bit with different toppers (and coils) but eventually found my perfect setup with a Dripper Pro at 1.1 ohms. Killer flavor, good vapor production, it's all good.
     

    heinz

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    Haha nice!
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    This is what happens to my notifications every ten minutes -
    The heaviest is during the morning hours - nice to see you're on the group!

    That's exciting!!


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    Technonut

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    Now try going near 1.1 ohm, I heard that's the sweet point for most RBAs...


    I've been running this close to a week now: (Taifun GT / 3.0v / 11.25 watts) Plenty of vapor production and flavor.. :vapor:




    EDIT:

    ProVape underrates their electronics:

    http://www.provape.com/v/images/ProVariV1vsV2.pdf


    While reviewing this table, be aware that this is the guaranteed production test limit. Because of part variations, typical unit outputs are higher than what is displayed in this table for both models.
     
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    Hey guys - been reading about these posts - from my personal experience here is what I have to say
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    I have seen it all - done it all - chased it all - when it comes down to it - sub-ohms is like that special kid in class who needs special attention.

    Running your coils below 1 ohm does absolutely nothing, except for bragging rights.

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    This makes no sense.

    Think about it, 1 ohm is not a magic number below which nothing changes.

    I found 0.8 ohms to be the perfect resistance for my coils in my R91/Mech setup long before I started reading forums.

    I'm not some cloud-chasing teen either...
     

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    This makes no sense.

    Think about it, 1 ohm is not a magic number below which nothing changes.

    I found 0.8 ohms to be the perfect resistance for my coils in my R91/Mech setup long before I started reading forums.

    I'm not some cloud-chasing teen either...

    Amen, I run my dual coil Helios at 0.8 Ohms all the time. There is nothing wrong with vaping at 20 watts, to state otherwise demonstrates a lack of understanding of rebuilding. There is nothing magical about the number 1.0 when applied to ohms, it is not The Rubicon.
     

    Technonut

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    This makes no sense.

    Think about it, 1 ohm is not a magic number below which nothing changes.

    I found 0.8 ohms to be the perfect resistance for my coils in my R91/Mech setup long before I started reading forums.

    I'm not some cloud-chasing teen either...

    I generally do not sub-ohm... Never really had a need or desire to. ;) I built the 0.8 coil to play around with in my Hana v3 DNA 30 box, and found that the minimum 15 watts I needed to run with a fresh battery was just too hot for my taste with most of my juices in the Taifun GT. When using VW devices, I'm usually in the 8-10 watt range.

    I was pleasantly surprised with the results using the same 0.8 ohm build on the ProVari running only 3.0v. (11.25 watts) I'm getting great flavor, and vapor production like you would see Mark Todd blowing in his reviews. :vapor: I enjoy the consistent vape until the battery is spent, and only need to swap the 18650's used once a day. :) (I'm a pretty heavy vaper ;) )

    The issue with sub-ohming lies with the more extreme builds, and the folks who do not research what they're doing regarding using properly rated batteries, battery safety, not knowing ohms law and just wrapping coils without checking the resistance before throwing the build on a mech (also important to assure no shorts), etc... One only has to browse through posts made by new folks here on ECF and other forums to see how dangerous sub-ohming can potentially be.

    Many grab the cheapest mech mod they can find, and use no fuse or short protection with the cheapest batteries they found on eBay. Funny, when I started vaping over 3 years ago, rebuildables didn't exist. Thousands of us managed to quit smoking using only standard atomizers, and cartos at higher resistances. ;) Low-resistance attys came on the scene for those who desired a hotter vape using mechs.

    When regulated VV devices became available, many of us rid ourselves of mech mods like the plague. EDIT: I do own and enjoy a few mech mods.. (primarily for their looks, and to have "just in case") I use them with Kick 2's though..:)
     
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    For me a big selling point of a variable device is that with any single coil build, the resistance doesn't matter much. If you can fire it...chances are you can adjust it to liking (of course extremely low or high resistances would lessen the 'range' of adjustment).

    Multiple coil rigs can be a little different...depending on the building platform.

    For 'me', going sub-ohm is only of interest if I'm attempting multiple coil builds, or trying to lessen the effect of 'battery sag' on a big atty platform in an unregulated mod (I.E. around 0.8 Ohms on a straight battery...it starts out a little hot for me unless I take it off the charger early...but is nice for 'most' of the battery charge...I get several more good draws out of the charge cycle).
     
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    I generally do not sub-ohm... Never really had a need or desire to. ;) I built the 0.8 coil to play around with in my Hana v3 DNA 30 box, and found that the minimum 15 watts I needed to run with a fresh battery was just too hot for my taste with most of my juices in the Taifun GT. When using VW devices, I'm usually in the 8-10 watt range.

    I was pleasantly surprised with the results using the same 0.8 ohm build on the ProVari running only 3.0v. (11.25 watts) I'm getting great flavor, and vapor production like you would see Mark Todd blowing in his reviews. :vapor: I enjoy the consistent vape until the battery is spent, and only need to swap the 18650's used once a day. :) (I'm a pretty heavy vaper ;) )

    The issue with sub-ohming lies with the more extreme builds, and the folks who do not research what they're doing regarding using properly rated batteries, battery safety, not knowing ohms law and just wrapping coils without checking the resistance before throwing the build on a mech (also important to assure no shorts), etc... One only has to browse through posts made by new folks here on ECF and other forums to see how dangerous sub-ohming can potentially be.

    Many grab the cheapest mech mod they can find, and use no fuse or short protection with the cheapest batteries they found on eBay. Funny, when I started vaping over 3 years ago, rebuildables didn't exist. Thousands of us managed to quit smoking using only standard atomizers, and cartos at higher resistances. ;) Low-resistance attys came on the scene for those who desired a hotter vape using mechs.

    When regulated VV devices became available, many of us rid ourselves of mech mods like the plague. EDIT: I do own and enjoy a few mech mods.. (primarily for their looks, and to have "just in case") I use them with Kick 2's though..:)

    Well therein lies the point.

    I run low resistance coils because I prefer the simplicity and compact form factor of a mech.

    I sold most of my vv/vw devices (including my Provari) as they were gathering dust.

    If I got any more vapour out of my main PV I'd never be able to see the tv or the road in front of me. Needless to say it produces more than adequate amounts of fog.

    I'm glad people enjoy their vv devices but there at a certain point there is no better, only different.
     

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    Amen, I run my dual coil Helios at 0.8 Ohms all the time. There is nothing wrong with vaping at 20 watts, to state otherwise demonstrates a lack of understanding of rebuilding. There is nothing magical about the number 1.0 when applied to ohms, it is not The Rubicon.

    I have to be the biggest dummy here. This is still all Greek to me. ;)


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    Well therein lies the point.

    I run low resistance coils because I prefer the simplicity and compact form factor of a mech.

    I sold most of my vv/vw devices (including my Provari) as they were gathering dust.

    If I got any more vapour out of my main PV I'd never be able to see the tv or the road in front of me. Needless to say it produces more than adequate amounts of fog.

    I'm glad people enjoy their vv devices but there at a certain point there is no better, only different.

    I enjoy my VV Provari. :). You all are some crafty fella's.


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    I enjoy my VV Provari. :). You all are some crafty fella's.


    Tina in FL

    I'm a born tinkerer so that side of our shared hobby appeals to me greatly.

    That's one of the nice things about vaping, it's as simple/complicated as we want to make it.

    I have built cars, motorcycles and houses so winding a coil for an RBA is a given for me :)
     
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