whats so great about provari?

[OSUkhoas]

2.90 out of 4 ain't bad
I'm holding a $30 Mech in my hand that does all that but the battery meter part, and it doesn't have quite the voltage range. Granted I had to drop a little $35 dollar Crown button in there to make it happen, but mod itself is still a Mech. It also does a few things the Provari doesn't, like adjustable air flow, comparable durability and function at a lighter weight and lower profile, the option the use it fully unregulated, and taking a wider variety of battery types and sizes out of the box, and at no extra charge. Can drop the Crown and do the Kick 2 instead, and trade the Ohm meter and VV option for VW from 5-15 watts, and the option to run atties as low as 0.5.

Having said that...there's still a lot of stuff the Provari has that my mech doesn't.
1. LED Display (Crown beeps and sings to you instead)
2. Reverse polarization protection. Well...the Crown sorta has it since the magnets don't stick on the battery the wrong way, but not to the extent of the Provari.
3. The warranty/service doesn't even begin to compare with those from ProVape.
4. Pass through option.
5. As many cool third party accessories designed to match up in both look and function.
6. It's US made (A plus for me).

Other devices offer different pros and cons as well. I.E. Touch sensor switches, bottom feeders, alternate power sources, built in chargers, absurd upper power ranges.

In short...get what you like and can afford. In general...we get what we pay for. While I've run into some who have tried, yet choose to use other mods over their Provari, I've not heard anyone saying it wasn't for the most part, worth the asking priceyy to them.

Most people say that the provari is very accurate when it comes to the variable wattage and voltage, or. Your experience can you say this is true?

 

[Falwell]

So, I'm a new vaper (day 5, day 3 without analogues) and I'm looking for something that may be the Provari. I want something that is quality. I want something sturdy. I want something that is idiot proof yet with plenty of options so that as my knowledge of vaping increases, I have a mod that can grow with me. Assuming the price isn't an issue, this would seem to be a good investment?

 

[Credo]

Most people say that the provari is very accurate when it comes to the variable wattage and voltage, or. Your experience can you say this is true?

In my experience with the Artisan Crown it can depend on the Mod. I have one with an aluminum tube and a compression safety spring that throws it off a little with some voltage drop, but it compensates and still functions quite well with a flat and steady DC signal. So on a meter/scope, it can be off a little (I.E. 3.5 volts when set to 3.7)...but the performance is very consistent in relative terms...so it's quite usable. I set it by taste, and it stays there no problem...throughout the complete battery cycle. I have some better conducting mods with much less voltage drop where the Crown is dead on accurate to its settings under full load.

With the Evolv Kick 2...it's dead on accurate in everything I have, an exception being a mod with a touch sensor (because the Kick 2 has a reversed polarity that won't work with that particular type of touch sensor network). I use a Crown or a Kick 1 in that mod.

On Longevity of the regulators. I don't know yet for the Crown or Kick 2. I haven't had them that long. My Evolv Kick 1, as well as my Darwin (Required one battery change at a little over the 2 year mark) are still going strong and I got them both back in 2011, shortly after they came out.

On Longevity of the mods and their switches/connectors/parts...it varies. I have some mechs that were total garbage...while some are rock solid.

As for the Provari's accuracy...many people have put theirs on scopes and testify that it's dead on accurate.

 

[Dampmaskin]

So, I'm a new vaper (day 5, day 3 without analogues) and I'm looking for something that may be the Provari. I want something that is quality. I want something sturdy. I want something that is idiot proof yet with plenty of options so that as my knowledge of vaping increases, I have a mod that can grow with me. Assuming the price isn't an issue, this would seem to be a good investment?

I don't own a Provari, but I think I can answer this regardless:

Yeah, pretty much. That's why my next battery will be a Provari.

I have been vaping for a few months, and now I build my own coils and mix my own juice. I'm not planning on going overboard with sub-ohming and carpentry, but I want something reliable. The Provari has (pretty much) all the features that I find important, and none that I don't care about. Of course my preferences can change, and I may at some point have a need that I need a different mod to fulfill, but even then, it seems the Provari would be a good tool to have in the toolbox.

 

[KjAthena]

So, I'm a new vaper (day 5, day 3 without analogues) and I'm looking for something that may be the Provari. I want something that is quality. I want something sturdy. I want something that is idiot proof yet with plenty of options so that as my knowledge of vaping increases, I have a mod that can grow with me. Assuming the price isn't an issue, this would seem to be a good investment?

Yes the Provari would be a good investment...quality, sturdy , plenty of options and easy to use. I own a few mods and use them all..from egos to mech mods to VV/VW devices and I do think the Provari will still be vapeing great a few years from now.

 

[PLANofMAN]

So, I'm a new vaper (day 5, day 3 without analogues) and I'm looking for something that may be the Provari. I want something that is quality. I want something sturdy. I want something that is idiot proof yet with plenty of options so that as my knowledge of vaping increases, I have a mod that can grow with me. Assuming the price isn't an issue, this would seem to be a good investment?

The only thing as sturdy as a ProVari is a REO. Possibly a Semovar or a ProtoVapor too, though they have only been out for a short time.
Idiot Proof? Nothing is idiot proof. The ProVari is simple to use, though.
Plenty of options? What is that supposed to mean?
A mod that can grow with you...Yep. You can stick a cartomizer on it just like a cig-a-like...and you can upgrade to clearomizers, and cartotanks, all the way up to the rarefied heights of rebuildable atomizers.
Investment? They hold re-sale value well, but only you can put a price on your lungs and health.

 

[Mutescream]

I was thinking earlier that the Provari is pretty expensive, but if I added up all the $$ I had spent from GreenSmokes to Halo G6+minitanks, to itaste VV3 and accessories for that, I'd have been better off moneywise to have started with a Provari. So yes, it is costly, but not as costly as buying more and more and more other stuff.

You know what, I can respect this sort of answer. I can even respect the earlier response that brought up a difference in the way the power supply works (800hz v. 33hz). I'm not sure going back to the realm of ego type batteries is quite fair, though... I could even argue that a vamo from the very beginning would have saved money. But, how many people know from the begining that mods exist or that they will need/want one? That said, if they last you longer than previous mods did, it sounds like iit was a good investment for you.

In the meantime, I'll pray that my vamo never falls in the toilet.

 

[EddardinWinter]

2.90 out of 4 ain't bad
I'm holding a $30 Mech in my hand that does all that but the battery meter part, and it doesn't have quite the voltage range. Granted I had to drop a little $35 dollar Crown button in there to make it happen, but mod itself is still a Mech. It also does a few things the Provari doesn't, like adjustable air flow, comparable durability and function at a lighter weight and lower profile, the option the use it fully unregulated, and taking a wider variety of battery types and sizes out of the box, and at no extra charge. Can drop the Crown and do the Kick 2 instead, and trade the Ohm meter and VV option for VW from 5-15 watts, and the option to run atties as low as 0.5 Ohms.

In which case, you crown is doing all of those things. Your mechanical is doing none of it. I would argue that it is no longer a mechanical at all since it has a regulated output.

Mechanical mods have their strengths, but also some weaknesses.





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[Hazzz]

I was going to buy a mini but its just way to Expensive, my Evic is alright but its too big and im looking for something smaller..

 

[PLANofMAN]

I think a bit of it is a status thing, though.

It's a battery tube. In my case, it's a beat up, scratched to hell, battered chunk of solid stainless steel. I bought mine used. It's between 3 and 4 years old. It still has most of it's Cerakote coating on it. I drop it on cement, tile, or wood floors about once a month...

...but the most important feature of this battery tube? It just works every time I push the button.

The only status I truly care about is non-smoking status. A ProVari and WTA e-juice got me off the smokes. That's why my signature banner and avatar are what they are. Not to impress people, but to remind me that I belong to a support group and to remind me of the debt I owe to ProVape and Aroma for lengthening my life.

 

[PLANofMAN]

I was going to buy a mini but its just way to Expensive, my Evic is alright but its too big and im looking for something smaller..

Get an iTaste MVP 2.0 The battery isn't replaceable, but it's small and compact and puts out a vape pretty close to a ProVari. The price is good as well. Since you are in the U.K., you might want to just order one from FastTech and wait 2 or 3 weeks for it to come in the post.

There are other mods out there as good as the ProVari, but they cost the same as a ProVari or more.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...on/473345-itaste-mvp-v2-owners-group-118.html

 

[Lexx]

THIS.


And, it's built right, i.e., I've dropped a Provari many, many times, on concrete, tile, etc., and they're really not even scratched.

I love my mech mods, and an MVP v2 or any other VV\VW device will certainly get the job done, but a Provari IS the measuring stick for all VV\VW devices for a reason.

It's really not.

A VV only device can not be the measuring stick for all VV/VW devices.

There are many DNA 20/30 devices that wipe the floor with it in terms of power and versatility.

The Provari is a good device but it isn't the pinnacle of vaping technology and there are better performing mods.

I sold mine because it wasn't getting used much.

Nice, well built, US made mod though.

 

[barabus]

I am a 1.3 ohm vaper and I have a provari and don't use it or like it, that said it is better than a itaste or whatever because of the way it's made. additionally, both a innokin(etc) and a provari both set @ 4.1 v does not get the same vape necessarily it depends on things like output variation and if it's a pulse style firing etc.

Also, people are discounting the feel of a mod as not part of the experience or not crucial enough to buy a mod because of it but I do. it's like buying a panerai watch and then buying a panerai clone they look similar if not exactly the same but the clone feels like a piece of .... bc of materials and build quality etc. Often times when I buy a clone of an mod/atty even "1:1" you may be getting the same product if taking a pic side x side but the difference in quality materials is typically evident in the feel/weight durability. One thin comes to mind I have had a Ti Steam turbine for prob 6 mo and decided I wanted to play with the airflow instead of drilling out my doc dave I bought a clone while test firing the atty to test the pre installed build on it the tank cracked in minutes of owning it and seconds of firing it. My real doc dave has a broken tank currently as well lol but only because it fell off of a 6ft bookshelf and I have gotten the atty so hot that the peek insulators were starting to go (autofiring).

 

[Mutescream]

Yes, you did say something about a group that owns them. If anyone wants something for a status symbol - then go for it. It's not for me, but I don't care what other people buy them for. I don't give a rats ... what people think of me. The ones that matter, know who I am.

Oh, ffs. The grand irony, is that if you had just not said anything, it would have passed and not been validated as a statement. You got defensive and aggressive, which validated the statement. Should provari owners stop being so sensitive about it, the rep would go away. The other aspect is arbitrarily throwing out "it just vapes better", without any form of justification behind it. It comes off as trying to blow vapor up people's azz. At least when some brought up the aspect of differences in power supply design, and durability... That makes sense, and can be justified (when trying to encourage others to buy).

In any event, you bought it, you enjoy it... Have a jolly good time with it.

 

[EddardinWinter]

Now try going near 1.1 ohm, I heard that's the sweet point for most RBAs...

My current ohms for my IGO-T in dual coil mode is 1.2. I run it there all day long at 4.2 volts. It is the sweet spot for many RDAs, and some RBAs. I think that is a bit too aggressive for KFLs due to wicking, airway limitations, and juice delivery (unless the device is modified, which I don't do). I set up my KFLs around 1.5 ohms and they seem to work very well. That works out to around 12 watts when I set to 4.2 volts. When using the KFL, the limit on my wattage is the atty, not my ProVari. Now, when I use my Helios RDA, I need my Caravela clone, because I like it at about 20 Watts, which is well beyond the limit of the ProVari. I agree with you that the ProVari has its limits, and that the Mechanical has a distinct advantage over it for 15w+ vaping. The same can be said for the DNA mods. They defeat the ProVari due to its design limitations. But that is not a flaw in the device, that is what the device was designed for.

I think version 3 should have a minimum top end of 20 Watts (25 would be better IMHO), and a ohm minimum of 0.6.

I am not saying the ProVari is perfect...It just does what it is supposed to do with near-perfect consistency.

 

[PeteC2]

I must say that I always love the Provari pro and con threads...better than the Hatfields & McCoys!

From a solely factual point:

Pro: Provaris are built better than pretty much any other tube mod on the market. I do admire their construction. For many, that is reason enough to buy one and I have no argument there.

Cons: 1. For the quality of the vape, it IS expensive, period. While you can vape well on a Provari, there are no mystical qualities.

2. The features and electronics are out dated. No one can reasonably argue that a DNA 20/30 mod is not vastly superior from an electronics view point. They simply are. For that matter, my Innokin VTR sports a more advanced microprocessor/board that easily fires sub ohm coils.

Does that mean that one should/should not buy a Provari?

Not at all, within its feature-set limitations, the Provari is one well-built mod and some folks will simply want this kind of quality. At the same time, you can buy a Vamo or SID for a fraction of the price and get a better feature set, albeit with less durability.

It is all a matter of what you are looking for...no right or wrong to either decision, just a matter of what means the most to you as a vaper.

 

[paengree]

It's like a tool that will last you a lifetime.


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[EddardinWinter]

Oh, ffs. The grand irony, is that if you had just not said anything, it would have passed and not been validated as a statement. You got defensive and aggressive, which validated the statement. Should provari owners stop being so sensitive about it, the rep would go away. The other aspect is arbitrarily throwing out "it just vapes better", without any form of justification behind it. It comes off as trying to blow vapor up people's azz. At least when some brought up the aspect of differences in power supply design, and durability... That makes sense, and can be justified (when trying to encourage others to buy).

In any event, you bought it, you enjoy it... Have a jolly good time with it.

You are kinda new, so maybe you don't know the rules completely just yet.

It would be nice if you could start writing posts which focus on attacking the post, and spend less time attacking the poster. It also would be nice if your posts didn't circumvent the language filter to use language that is not permitted. You are breaking the rules. I would suggest that you focus on your own writing style and how it may have contributed to the ugly tone in this thread.

I recognize that it is hard to attack the post without impugning the poster, and we all make mistakes (including me) and break this rule, but please try a bit harder.

 

[Anotherhunter804]

I am really new to the vaping scene. I bought an itaste v3 to start and it was fine. But now that I know its going to stick I wanted something that would last. I am probably the clumsiest person alive. That is pretty much the only reason I got my Provari (actually it was a surprise present from my husband...he knows how clumsy I am). My husband has a vamo v5. He is perfectly happy with that one and he will use it till it falls apart.

 

[Southern Tina]

Oh, ffs. The grand irony, is that if you had just not said anything, it would have passed and not been validated as a statement. You got defensive and aggressive, which validated the statement. Should provari owners stop being so sensitive about it, the rep would go away. The other aspect is arbitrarily throwing out "it just vapes better", without any form of justification behind it. It comes off as trying to blow vapor up people's azz. At least when some brought up the aspect of differences in power supply design, and durability... That makes sense, and can be justified (when trying to encourage others to buy).

In any event, you bought it, you enjoy it... Have a jolly good time with it.

LOL, okay. Whatever dude.