What's the (continuing) attraction of mechanical mods?

[EdT586]

It's like saying a BMW is better than a Chevy -- probably true, but I can't afford a BMW -- I CAN afford a chevy! Which gets me where I need to go -- just like my $40 mods.Andria

Actually the Chevy might be better than the BMW if you compare it at the same cost.
Want can BMW do for the same cost of the Chevy, probably not much and more badly !
The Germans are not known for their quality in the proper sense, they inspect the hell out of their cars before it leaves the factory, that is why they are so expensive and have moved most of the plants to India and China. The Japanese on the other hand were able to produce a similar product at lower cost and killed both the German and American car industry, but now even the Japanese are suffering because the Koreans are kicking their .... with better lower cost products !

You just have to remember one thing about what Quality really means:
It means you can produce a better product at a lower cost every other year. Just look at your 60" HDTV and microwave ovens, they used to cost over $20,000 for a 32" flat screen TV less than 10-15 years ago or $900 for a microwave oven, now you can pick one up a 60" HDTV for less than $600 with more features and functions and a microwave oven for $30 and the prices keep falling every other year ...now that is Quality in the true sense !

 

[Asbestos4004]

The last time I checked they were $209USD on special down from $269.95 for the P3, only the P2.5 Mini is on special for $110, but they normally go for $159.95. Mostly likely these models are not moving and they have too much inventory.

Fancy that...a top notch, American Made authentic that you can actually get your hands on. You mean, they actually made enough to go around and offer specials on certain models? They're not sold out in 10 minutes making it open season for the flippers? (they';re worse than cloners, btw) Yep, you're right...ProVape...whatta joke.

 

[AndriaD]

Actually the Chevy might be better than the BMW if you compare it at the same cost.
Want can BMW do for the same cost of the Chevy, probably not much and more badly !
The Germans are not known for their quality in the proper sense, they inspect the hell out of their cars before it leaves the factory, that is why they are so expensive and have moved most of the plants to India and China ! The Japanese on the other hand were able to produce a similar product at lower cost and killed both the German and American car industry, but now even the Japanese are suffering because the Koreans are kicking their .... with better lower cost products !

We've been totally delighted with both Chevy trucks we've owned -- they JUST WORK. I wish they didn't have all that electronic stuff on 'em, though -- used to be, down here, if the thermostat broke, well just take it out! We don't need it in our climate! But now, a thermostat MUST be replaced when it breaks, or the AC won't work -- and I ain't going anywhere without AC! That thermostat repair was over $200 -- so it had to wait about 6 months to get fixed; thankfully it broke just as it got cooler in the fall, and we did fine thru the winter without it, but had to get it fixed before it got warm -- which was sometime last month, if I recall correctly.

Andria

 

[AndriaD]

Actually the Chevy might be better than the BMW if you compare it at the same cost.
Want can BMW do for the same cost of the Chevy, probably not much and more badly !
The Germans are not known for their quality in the proper sense, they inspect the hell out of their cars before it leaves the factory, that is why they are so expensive and have moved most of the plants to India and China ! The Japanese on the other hand were able to produce a similar product at lower cost and killed both the German and American car industry, but now even the Japanese are suffering because the Koreans are kicking their .... with better lower cost products !

We've been totally delighted with both Chevy trucks we've owned -- they JUST WORK. I wish they didn't have all that electronic stuff on 'em, though -- used to be, down here, if the thermostat broke, well just take it out! We don't need it in our climate! But now, a thermostat MUST be replaced when it breaks, or the AC won't work -- and I ain't going anywhere without AC! That thermostat repair was over $200 -- so it had to wait about 6 months to get fixed; thankfully it broke just as it got cooler in the fall, and we did fine thru the winter without it, but had to get it fixed before it got warm -- which was sometime last month, if I recall correctly.

Andria

 

[KenD]

I was going to post something about mechs but apparently this thread is now about the pros and cons of Provaris... Boring...

 

[coolerat]

No, its about Chevy trucks.

<--------------Silverado 1500 4x4 here.

 

[Asbestos4004]

I was going to post something about mechs but apparently this thread is now about the pros and cons of Provaris... Boring...

Ha! I actually completely forgot what this thread was about....I thought it was a clone authentic thread....my bad

 

[Asbestos4004]

ok....back on topic.....this is why I still like mechs

 

[EdT586]

Fancy that...a top notch, American Made authentic that you can actually get your hands on. You mean, they actually made enough to go around and offer specials on certain models? They're not sold out in 10 minutes making it open season for the flippers? (they';re worse than cloners, btw) Yep, you're right...ProVape...whatta joke.

If they had a sale for "seconds" like all those units they rejected for minor visual cosmetic defects like hairline scratches and scuff marks that you can't even see without a magnifier or without them having to be reworked would have been the smarter and more believable scenario ...but now it is simply overstock that needs a sale to move them out !

 

[AndriaD]

ok....back on topic.....this is why I still like mechsView attachment 425111

You know... now that I've found a couple of RDAs that I can actually enjoy... a REO might actually be something that makes a lot of sense to save up for -- they're not cheap either, but I'm thinking more and more that they're probably well worth it.

Andria

 

[wheelie]

We've been totally delighted with both Chevy trucks we've owned -- they JUST WORK. I wish they didn't have all that electronic stuff on 'em, though -- used to be, down here, if the thermostat broke, well just take it out! We don't need it in our climate! But now, a thermostat MUST be replaced when it breaks, or the AC won't work -- and I ain't going anywhere without AC! That thermostat repair was over $200 -- so it had to wait about 6 months to get fixed; thankfully it broke just as it got cooler in the fall, and we did fine thru the winter without it, but had to get it fixed before it got warm -- which was sometime last month, if I recall correctly.

Andria

Visit home depot and get a free truck! LOL

 

[EJAB]

If your looking for a "Quality" squonker: lukkos – DOT-MOD
The craftsmanship/quality are second to none! Reos are like a "swatch", as a Lukkos is like a Rolex!

 

[Asbestos4004]

If they had a sale for "seconds" like all those units they rejected for minor visual cosmetic defects like hairline scratches and scuff marks that you can't even see without a magnifier or without them having to be reworked would have been the smarter and more believable scenario ...but now it is simply overstock that needs a sale to move them out !

I don't think I get your point. My point is, they have an American made authentic that is in stock. You're somehow knocking them for having a sale? So what if they have an overstock?

 

[Zealous]

Am I missing some big upside? Or is it mostly the style aspect? Or is it mostly the fact that you guys have many of them from your earlier years of vaping and they work fine, so why not use them sometimes?

Or, to put it a slightly different way - would any of you recommend that I consider adding a mech mod or two to my collection of VW/VV mods? I will shortly have three VW mods - iStick 50W (my first), Smok XPro M80 (coming tomorrow), and eventually a Vapor Flask DNA40 clone (coming from 3FVape in China so will be a couple of weeks.)

Your question is valid so I'll answer. Probably my answer has already been said but this thread is stupidly long now & way off topic so...

Yes, I would advise anyone who's planning on sticking with vaping for a while to get a mech, even if they mainly use vv/vw devices.

I would suggest that it be a high quality device with parts that can be replaced at a hardware store &/or through the manufacturer (in the latter case you'd need to make sure the manufacturer will provide these things). I would also suggest that you learn about battery safety for one of these devices even if you never intend on using it. It's best to be prepared.

As far as why, at some point there will be regulations. I firmly believe that when these regulations fall into place it will be hard to get GOOD devices. Your regulated mods WILL fail at some point. It might be years from now but it will happen. If you are still vaping when that happens you will be happy you still have that mech to use and you will be happy you don't have to worry about hunting down a part if something goes wrong with it.

That's my $.02

 

[EdT586]

This Pure Smoker used to be the Provari of mech mods and cost as much, I wonder why they went belly up ?
http://invape.com/wp-content/uploads/legacy_vape1.jpg

 

[Dodge2Dub]

Your question is valid so I'll answer. Probably my answer has already been said but this thread is stupidly long now & way off topic so...

Yes, I would advise anyone who's planning on sticking with vaping for a while to get a mech, even if they mainly use vv/vw devices.

I would suggest that it be a high quality device with parts that can be replaced at a hardware store &/or through the manufacturer (in the latter case you'd need to make sure the manufacturer will provide these things). I would also suggest that you learn about battery safety for one of these devices even if you never intend on using it. It's best to be prepared.

As far as why, at some point there will be regulations. I firmly believe that when these regulations fall into place it will be hard to get GOOD devices. Your regulated mods WILL fail at some point. It might be years from now but it will happen. If you are still vaping when that happens you will be happy you still have that mech to use and you will be happy you don't have to worry about hunting down a part if something goes wrong with it.

That's my $.02

Well said. I personally have watched my vaping hardware progress from pen style vapes, to cheap mechanicals, to high end mechanicals, and now finally to vw. I plan to keep a select few mechanicals, because at the end of the day, they always work and can be easily repaired.

 

[Asbestos4004]

This Pure Smoker used to be the Provari of mech mods and cost as much, I wonder why they went belly up ?
http://invape.com/wp-content/uploads/legacy_vape1.jpg

Isn't that the one that some jack leg hurt himself with, then sued?

 

[tehmidcap]

Oftentimes, especially with Chinese made items, counterfeit products are actually made in the same factory as the originals. Same plans, same specs, same everything. They are exactly the same except they were made without the original compaNy's order. Obviously this isn't always the case but with some clones I bet it is.

 

[TheBloke]

Your question is valid so I'll answer. Probably my answer has already been said but this thread is stupidly long now & way off topic so...

Yes, I would advise anyone who's planning on sticking with vaping for a while to get a mech, even if they mainly use vv/vw devices.

I would suggest that it be a high quality device with parts that can be replaced at a hardware store &/or through the manufacturer (in the latter case you'd need to make sure the manufacturer will provide these things). I would also suggest that you learn about battery safety for one of these devices even if you never intend on using it. It's best to be prepared.

As far as why, at some point there will be regulations. I firmly believe that when these regulations fall into place it will be hard to get GOOD devices. Your regulated mods WILL fail at some point. It might be years from now but it will happen. If you are still vaping when that happens you will be happy you still have that mech to use and you will be happy you don't have to worry about hunting down a part if something goes wrong with it.

That's my $.02

Wait, this thread was about mech mods?

Thanks for the response! Yes all makes sense. I'm somewhat confident that here in Europe, we won't see quite the vapocalypse that is possible in the US. We are seeing knee-jerk regulation being considered, but it seems to relate to the tank side of things, making them "leak proof" for some unknown reason. And quite possibly taxation/restrictions on nicotine. But I've not heard any mention of restrictions to the power side of things. Even if there were, I would have no qualms or great worries ordering from China for import.

However, regardless of the local regulations in any one place, a large scale vapocalypse would likely still affect everyone in that reduction in demand will affect production. China won't be churning out nearly as many fancy high-wattage VV/VW devices if no-one in the US can (or will) buy them.

So yes I'll definitely get a mech or two. And actually I've been thinking I would quite like one of those very mini ones, for driving. Something that fits completely in the palm of my hand, 18350 or whatever. And I'd like to get a big mech or two, one that looks different and cool to my current regulated box mods.

 

[TheBloke]

Isn't that the one that some jack leg hurt himself with, then sued?

Might be the model, but he was using a clone - that was one of his problems. Cheap clone without proper vent holes and using it well outside the rating of his battery, something his local vendor had apparently already warned him about.

Of course he took it gracefully, accepted that he had pushed the envelope too far and paid the price. Wait, no, he tried to sue a Chinese company and went crying to a sensationalist national newspaper to make vaping look bad. Detestable fool.