Nope, wasn't a cheap clone, real deal bought straight from the manufacturer ---> Courthouse News Service .
Folks get the mistaken impression that vent holes in the tube will save them from misuse / catastrophic battery failure.
What's the (continuing) attraction of mechanical mods?
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Nope, wasn't a cheap clone, real deal bought straight from the manufacturer ---> Courthouse News Service .
Folks get the mistaken impression that vent holes in the tube will save them from misuse / catastrophic battery failure.
You mean like BMW which is manufactured side by side with Brilliance's production line and then blame the Chinese for stealing their designs or the iPhone clone that came out 3 months before the genuine one from Apple and I wonder who is copying who ? You can't say they copied you if they came out with it first !
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Ohh, we're talking about different incidents. Or rather, I was talking about a different incident than Asbestos mentioned. I hadn't heard of the Denver one.
Asbestos used the word "leg" so I thought it was the guy in the UK who had his clone explode over his leg.
Well if this Denver guy was using a genuine, then maybe he has more right to sue - at the very least, he has more chance; the UK guy was trying to sue a Chinese factory - and then went to a national newspaper who did a two page spread about the terrible dangers of vaping.
As to what he was doing..
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I should not have spent the $ on my Reo, but it is the best device I own at the moment. I can 'drip-and-drive' on my way to and from work. It's set to my liking (by way of my super coil building skills at 1.1 ohms), I've got my ADV in it, it's small enough to put in my purse, and it just looks good! As long as I don't short it and pancake a spring, I'll be good for awhile. Don't get me wrong, I love my regulated devices - used my VF with my MXV3 0.9 ohm coil at the B&M today - but for my ADV right now, my Reo is where it's at for me.
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For a long time I didn't think it would be a vape I'd like, since so many say that the vape is comparable to a good RDA -- just from the bottom -- and since I didn't like RDAs, I didn't think I'd like it. But I've recently found a couple of RDAs that I really do like, since I can close down the airflow for a nice mouth-to-lung hit -- so I'm starting to re-examine the idea of a REO -- a long-range goal obviously, since we really are broke as dirt -- but I can get behind the idea of saving for an expensive mechanical much more than an expensive regulated -- because mechanicals don't just "up and die" the way that electronics so often do -- they last. To me, THAT is the nature of quality -- not the name, the symbol of the thing -- the thing itself.
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Well if a REo will keep me vaping when all hell breaks loose I guess I ought to check them out.
Employees actually being quality conscience is a thing of the past? You must only work with PRC companies... We make products, which if fail in the field, could result in an environmental disaster or deaths. Of course everyone cares about quality. Those who don't don't make it through training. Perhaps that's the biggest difference between PRC manufacturing and well run US manufacturing...
I agree with some of this...
I've amazed some people at s local vape shop with the clouds I could blow from my little istick 20w, out performing their sub ohm builds on their dual 18650 mods......however, there is performance drop in a mech, that is noticeable.
Take a 1.2 ohm coil as example, at 4.2 volts, your putting out 14.7 watts...at 3.9 volts, you are down to 12.7, and that IS a noticeable difference. No amount of build skill will remove that aspect.
The RM2 that I bought with my Reo is perfect for MtL. Very tight single air hole.
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for me, a lightweight , thin, short, and 18650 powered mech mod will be considered as as a future mod. Yes, they're here already ( SMPL, 4Nine ).
They just work. I balance my coil to a decent batt life & Vape. My nemmy sits nice right next to my wallet aswell (not suggested w/magnet button). I use my vw around the house I don't want to lose my box, besides 10-14w does it for me anyway.
None that I can see, except for a back-up device in case your regulated mod fails. Regulated mods offer many safety features, and the ability to fine-tune your vape exactly how you like it. Just do some research, and watch reviews to make sure what you buy is safe, and consistent in it's power output..
Just my opinion of course..
Just my opinion of course..
That's good if you don't live in a police state or have the money to buy a new box it you break it.
I think you misunderstood what I am trying to say.
Quality must be built into the design from the very beginning, you can't have a reliable and consitent product if it is poorly designed. The workforce must be trained and be involved in all quality functions. The problem with North American manufacturers is that they rely on a "separate" quality functions to police the production workers which adds to the cost and higher percentage of defects that will not be caught. That has been the quality model for the Small 3 since the beginning. I don't think any of the Small3 is even ISO-9001 or TSM-9001 certified yet, the mentality of the workers there is just sub par to the other foreign auto makers.
What type of mission critical industry do you work in ? I have overseen mega projects in the ISS, DoD, DND and I think I know a thing or two on what I am talking about.
I think you misunderstood what I am trying to say.
Quality must be built into the design from the very beginning, you can't have a reliable and consitent product if it is poorly designed. The workforce must be trained and be involved in all quality functions. The problem with North American manufacturers is that they rely on a "separate" quality functions to police the production workers which adds to the cost and higher percentage of defects that will not be caught. That has been the quality model for the Small 3 since the beginning. I don't think any of the Small3 is even ISO-9001 or TSM-9001 certified yet, the mentality of the workers there is just sub par to the other foreign auto makers.
What type of mission critical industry do you work in ? I have overseen mega projects in the ISS, DoD, DND and I think I know a thing or two on what I am talking about.
Quality must be built into the design from the very beginning, you can't have a reliable and consitent product if it is poorly designed. The workforce must be trained and be involved in all quality functions. The problem with North American manufacturers is that they rely on a "separate" quality functions to police the production workers which adds to the cost and higher percentage of defects that will not be caught. That has been the quality model for the Small 3 since the beginning. I don't think any of the Small3 is even ISO-9001 or TSM-9001 certified yet, the mentality of the workers there is just sub par to the other foreign auto makers.
What type of mission critical industry do you work in ? I have overseen mega projects in the ISS, DoD, DND and I think I know a thing or two on what I am talking about.
Yep, you're a genius. Now, list all of the defects and problems associated with ProVapes obviously shoddy design and workmanship.
You would have to pay me, since it will be a professional service !
Cant back up what you say, noone cares what you think
And last i heard people were dying from the last round of defects at toyota
Daiwoo went under becuase the owner cooked the books while spending the money on alcohol, yachts and strippers. Sounds like a disciplined individual there huh
Honda recalls (exploding blocks!?!?say what?)
Honda Recalls - Honda Safety & Defect Recall News
Toyoya recalls (fuel leaks causing fires? Nooooooooo)
Toyota Recalls - Toyota Safety & Defect Recall News
Subaru recalls( brake lines failing?? Say it isnt so!!!!)
Subaru Recalls - Subaru Safety & Defect Recall News
Nissan recalls
"Over 6 million vehicles are involved in the Takata airbag recalls"
Nissan Recalls - Nissan Safety & Defect Recall News
I dont think ill continue, your doing a great job sounding like an a## all by yourself.
Pretty odd that with all that attention to detail mercedes is experiencing exploding growth in the japanese market
メルセデス・ベンツ日本公å¼ã‚µã‚¤ãƒˆ - ENGLISH - Mercedes-Benz Japan
Funniest part is is drinking on the job there is quite common
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I'm sorry I didn't read the whole thread, only the op.
My attraction is mostly the price. The mods I have bought are inexpensive compared to vv/vw. Although I recognize that a vv/vw is more advanced and therefore potentially superior, I just can't bring myself to spend the money. I've had mech mods break down and it's either a) a quick trip to home depot or b) a new one at $40-60. It's sort of like expensive sunglasses. Sure, you think they're awesome...until someone sits on them
There's also a small amount of fear and apprehension. Will I not like a vv/vw and be sad I spent $200? Will it break just as easily?
I have bad luck and I also don't take care of things the way I should. So if it breaks, it's most likely my fault. Plus, I have a small mod and I carry it in my pocket everywhere I go. Size matters.
My attraction is mostly the price. The mods I have bought are inexpensive compared to vv/vw. Although I recognize that a vv/vw is more advanced and therefore potentially superior, I just can't bring myself to spend the money. I've had mech mods break down and it's either a) a quick trip to home depot or b) a new one at $40-60. It's sort of like expensive sunglasses. Sure, you think they're awesome...until someone sits on them
There's also a small amount of fear and apprehension. Will I not like a vv/vw and be sad I spent $200? Will it break just as easily?
I have bad luck and I also don't take care of things the way I should. So if it breaks, it's most likely my fault. Plus, I have a small mod and I carry it in my pocket everywhere I go. Size matters.
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