What's the (continuing) attraction of mechanical mods?

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AndriaD you might want to try the Evolv kick. It's substantially more money but it shuts off at 3.6v so there's no worry of maybe going too low.

Mine shuts off around 3.2 I think, same as my Vamo and sigelei do -- and only costs about $12. :D

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I use a variety of VV, VW, and mechanical devices. For me, the beauty of a mech is that it has less parts to fail and having educated myself to their workings, here at ECF and elsewhere, I am able to safely undertake their repair should it ever become necessary. They also have a form factor which lends itself to the artistry of their creators which I find to be a tangible element of my vaping pleasure while using them.
 

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Mine shuts off around 3.2 I think, same as my Vamo and Sigelei do -- and only costs about $12. :D

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I've used the Segelei and the FT generic models. They do shut off at 3.2 but I've had them run all the way down to 3.0. That got me guessing and switching earlier all the time, as you do. The Evolv solves that. It puts the idiot back in idiot proof :)

But the cheapest I've seen them is for 3 times the price. It's a question of how much you're willing to pay for not having to think :D
 

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    What's the (continuing) attraction of mechanical mods?

    Easy .... they work as well today as they as they did when I bought them (2011), and they will still be working as well in 2021.

    You just have to ask yourself, when is good enough ... going to be good enough!

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    AndriaD you might want to try the Evolv kick. It's substantially more money but it shuts off at 3.6v so there's no worry of maybe going too low.

    Actually the Evolv Kick-2 drops to 1/2 the set wattage when the voltage drops below 3.6v, (low voltage warning) and then will shut off at 3.2v.
     
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    No offense to anyone - unskilled rebuilders who don't know how to properly tune their setups. I can show you videos of people fogging out the room with an ego. It takes more then a couple YouTube videos to become a true skilled rebuilder.

    For example
    I run a kayfun on one mod @.9 I run my genesis at .8 With my build I get 7-10 hours before you even notice a drop off in vapor.

    So really its zero fuss I fill the tank, I pop in a battery and I'm done. I don't have to play with settings and worry about what a screen says every 3-4 weeks I change my wicks

    And of course looks, I personally can't stand these boring boxes that all look the same

    When my battery gets low if I can't change it right away it doesn't just turn off and leave me stranded.

    And this is true lol

    I also have both VV/VW and Mechs, I use both.
     

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    And skipping everything else already said

    You honestly can't tell me you can get this kind of class from a plastic box with a button on it.:D


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    Website storefronts never do the mods justice
    Click on the poldiac fanclub link in my Sig to see the awesomeness people own
     
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    Easy .... they work as well today as they as they did when I bought them (2011), and they will still be working as well in 2021.

    You just have to ask yourself, when is good enough ... going to be good enough!

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    Actually the Evolv Kick-2 drops to 1/2 the set wattage when the voltage drops below 3.6v, (low voltage warning) and then will shut off at 3.2v.
    Mine start stuttering on and off at 3.6v. I guess they stop all together at 3.2v?
     

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    Oh you young and foolish purveyors of power, when will you learn that there is no 'be all' and 'end all' device for vaping...and if there were IT WOULD BE THE MECH :D

    Seriously though, it is great to have a few mechs and use them as a learning tool or for self defense or as Art on display (for they are things of beauty and should all be given women's names), or Greek gods names perhaps in a few instances:facepalm:

    At the price they can be had, you should grab yourself at least one or 2, even if you mostly always end up going with regulated box's (the ugly's)

    But the mech's are Sooooo great to look at and personally I prefer them for every application (including tanks) whether rebuildable or otherwise:2c:
     

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    Mine start stuttering on and off at 3.6v. I guess they stop all together at 3.2v?

    I notice sometimes the kick doesn't compensate correctly for certain metals. It is supposed to adjust for internal mod resistance but in many cases it doesn't.

    I have a SS mod where it refuses to go below 3.55. That same kick in my brass mod goes to 3.23 everytime
     

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    I notice sometimes the kick doesn't compensate correctly for certain metals. It is supposed to adjust for internal mod resistance but in many cases it doesn't.

    I have a SS mod where it refuses to go below 3.55. That same kick in my brass mod goes to 3.23 everytime

    Sounds like a DX. That's alright, I couldn't believe the resistance either. :lol:
     

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    It's that high strength chinesium getting in the wa

    Funny part is, I understand where the OP is coming from back a couple years ago in my provari days, I argued relentlessly with the mech users about the superiority of regulation, couldn't rebuild worth a darn unregulated and had buyers remorse for spending so much on a couple poldiacs. But I would take em down. Dink with my Atty a bit, say naaa and put em away.

    One day I dunno, I hit the perfect build or something, was chain vaping all day on my mech, started playing with the others i had and somehow it all fell into place. Suddenly everything I put on them worked awesome and ended up using my reg mods less and less except for work. Then I decided to just do it and take my mech to work.
    That was the last time I turned on my provari.

    I used to get a hotspot on my geni like every 5 minutes and I though man how do those mech guys put up with this. Now I only get them in first setup or when I accidentally run dry. Even then its not really a hotspot as much as burning a dry wick.

    It took a lot of different wire and builds before I understood how to balance everything

    To any budding rebuilders, remember we all started somewhere.
     
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    I've used the Segelei and the FT generic models. They do shut off at 3.2 but I've had them run all the way down to 3.0. That got me guessing and switching earlier all the time, as you do. The Evolv solves that. It puts the idiot back in idiot proof :)

    But the cheapest I've seen them is for 3 times the price. It's a question of how much you're willing to pay for not having to think :D

    Not that much, that's certain. :D Thinking in general doesn't distress me (as I know it certainly does a lot of others!). I'm pretty happy with Smok Kicks; I've been happy with my various Smok mods, though somewhat less so with their attys. I think I've gone over 11w maybe twice in the year+ I've been vaping, and that was only on my Vamo, before I figured out I needed to run it in its "AVG" mode, so the 12w limitation is no thing to me at all; I seem to get just as good battery life, using those, as I do in my regulated mods -- because I have my Kicks set pretty much as I always set the Sigelei or the vv3s, around 10-ish watts.

    The next mod I buy will probably be a 30w, just because those are dirt cheap now, so if I ever do get accustomed to a higher wattage, then I might want to spend the big bucks and get an eVolve Kick, but at the moment it would be way overkill, both in terms of wattage AND my budget! :D

    Andria
     

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    I notice sometimes the kick doesn't compensate correctly for certain metals. It is supposed to adjust for internal mod resistance but in many cases it doesn't.

    I have a SS mod where it refuses to go below 3.55. That same kick in my brass mod goes to 3.23 everytime
    I've only used kicks briefly in a couple of telescopes and Katos. Mostly Katos which are obviously aluminum making anything like that unnoticable.

    That is good to know though, thanks. I have a 3D 510 base coming that I'm hoping to make a kicklet out of combined with some Nemisis parts.
     

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    Not that much, that's certain. :D Thinking in general doesn't distress me (as I know it certainly does a lot of others!). I'm pretty happy with Smok Kicks; I've been happy with my various Smok mods, though somewhat less so with their attys. I think I've gone over 11w maybe twice in the year+ I've been vaping, and that was only on my Vamo, before I figured out I needed to run it in its "AVG" mode, so the 12w limitation is no thing to me at all; I seem to get just as good battery life, using those, as I do in my regulated mods -- because I have my Kicks set pretty much as I always set the Sigelei or the vv3s, around 10-ish watts.

    The next mod I buy will probably be a 30w, just because those are dirt cheap now, so if I ever do get accustomed to a higher wattage, then I might want to spend the big bucks and get an eVolve Kick, but at the moment it would be way overkill, both in terms of wattage AND my budget! :D

    Andria
    It's not really the thinking for me. It's one less thing to think about. It's a rare day when I don't have a few balls in the air.

    Are there more people on the planet, besides you and I, that like vaping at a mere 10 watts? :D
     

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    It's not really the thinking for me. It's one less thing to think about. It's a rare day when I don't have a few balls in the air.

    Are there more people on the planet, besides you and I, that like vaping at a mere 10 watts? :D

    Some; a while back in the iTaste vv3 thread there was a virtual party of low-watt vapers! :D Cake and everything! :D

    Andria
     

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    When I'm out and about I love my little iStick.

    But at home mechs are the only way to go.

    Sitting here right now surrounded but a brazillion dollars worth of gear vaping on a 15 dollar FT Nemy with a Nautilus and some bathtub juice thinking life doesn't get any better.

    After I'm sure they are working perfect I give them to smokers. Maybe they get used, maybe they don't. But its easier to say press here and vape then adjust the VV to 7.1 and lock this or you'll get a 30 watt death hit and do this and do that. If it takes more then 8 seconds to learn to drive a Nemy I'm prolly wasting my time.
     
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