What's with the cloud chasing?
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It's our era of everything being "edgy" and extreme.... the biggest, baddest, cloudiest, etc. I stopped going to a local vape shop due to the cloud chasers driving me out. Even the owner was doing it, but they all were in their early 20's I'd guess.....lol They all were complimenting each other on the last cloud blown. Sort of a silly sport far as I could tell, but to each his own, right?
To each his own. Make fog if you want. But please, do not envelope me in your fog bank. And walking into a vape shop that is fogged up is lame. Be polite folks or it will be more difficult to retain rights.
For me its a texture thing. Cloud chasing gives a different mouth and lung feel. A well setup .3 ohm quad gives you flavor like you wouldn't believe and vapor so thick you can practically chew it. a massive smooth, dense cloud of 6mg is a lot nicer on the throat than a little wisp of 24mg
If one wants to cloud chase, cloud chase. If one wants to puff on an evod, puff on an evod. As long as we vape they will continue to make new toys and better juices. We all benefit from all of it
I don't have the gear for anything close to actual "cloud chasing". But I do enjoy the fact that my little Triton VV pushing 4.1v into 1.9Ω (~8.8w) gives me a nice sized cloud with a satisfying moment of opaqueness. I never blow a fat cloud when outside my own home, and never when anyone else is in the room with me. I consider it a simple matter of respect for others.
How do I feel about people doing it in public? I frown on it because we're having enough trouble convincing the non-vaping world that even the small white clouds don't cause full-body cancer, say nothing of the cumulonimbus vaporonis storm front ones.
But if anyone wants to do that with their friends and post competition vids on YouTube, more power to them. I'm not going to say they shouldn't do it because I don't any more than I'd say people shouldn't ski because I don't.
How do I feel about people doing it in public? I frown on it because we're having enough trouble convincing the non-vaping world that even the small white clouds don't cause full-body cancer, say nothing of the cumulonimbus vaporonis storm front ones.
But if anyone wants to do that with their friends and post competition vids on YouTube, more power to them. I'm not going to say they shouldn't do it because I don't any more than I'd say people shouldn't ski because I don't.
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I like sub ohm builds better. Better nicotine delivery. When using the kayfun or not a good vape producing device, I feel like I am sucking the life out of me and I end up vaping more because I am unsatisfied with the results. With the dripper and lower ohm builds, I feel like I am more in control of how much nicotine and vapor I receive.
Ok, first, let me start off by saying I'm not an official "cloud chaser" my all day vape is 12 watts on a 2.4 ohm single coil at the moment. It produces quite a bit of vapor, and enough to satisfy my needs for most of the day.
...however....
I do have a few drippers and a mechanical mod in my inventory. I do use an aqua on my mechanical mod, and use it daily. Not my main device, but it is a necessary second. I like high nic content from time to time, and I do a modest sub ohm build (.6 ohms). When I went to six flags a few days ago, I was left with the choice when I got out of the car.. take my vamo with an AGA-T2 glass tank which I could not tip, take my Mechanical mod with a solid steel Aqua atomizer, or take my ego VV with a glass mini protank..... the only one suitable for rollercoasters, was my mechanical... so I took it.
Reason being.... I wanted to get my nic fix in fast from a mod that was durable enough to go through a rollercoaster laying on my belly doing loops (superman). They still require you to vape in a designated smoking area ( go figure) so my mechanical mod was the best choice. the Vamo is too big to be easily pocketable not to mention the AGA T2 cannot be tipped and has glass. The EGO battery could easily break if the glass protank doesn't break first. I'd drop by a smoking area, pop out my mech, and vape a few clouds, re-pocket it and say goodbye to the smokers who sat there looking astonished (and I saw a few people whispering and pointing as I walked away).
If I didn't blow clouds, I probably wouldn't have gotten the quick nic fix I wanted. So, in that case, a cloud chasing mech mod suited the bill.
But as I type this, I'm vaping on that vamo with an AGA T2. vaping clouds, I can see some use, but for me, it's not an all day thing.
...however....
I do have a few drippers and a mechanical mod in my inventory. I do use an aqua on my mechanical mod, and use it daily. Not my main device, but it is a necessary second. I like high nic content from time to time, and I do a modest sub ohm build (.6 ohms). When I went to six flags a few days ago, I was left with the choice when I got out of the car.. take my vamo with an AGA-T2 glass tank which I could not tip, take my Mechanical mod with a solid steel Aqua atomizer, or take my ego VV with a glass mini protank..... the only one suitable for rollercoasters, was my mechanical... so I took it.
Reason being.... I wanted to get my nic fix in fast from a mod that was durable enough to go through a rollercoaster laying on my belly doing loops (superman). They still require you to vape in a designated smoking area ( go figure) so my mechanical mod was the best choice. the Vamo is too big to be easily pocketable not to mention the AGA T2 cannot be tipped and has glass. The EGO battery could easily break if the glass protank doesn't break first. I'd drop by a smoking area, pop out my mech, and vape a few clouds, re-pocket it and say goodbye to the smokers who sat there looking astonished (and I saw a few people whispering and pointing as I walked away).
If I didn't blow clouds, I probably wouldn't have gotten the quick nic fix I wanted. So, in that case, a cloud chasing mech mod suited the bill.
But as I type this, I'm vaping on that vamo with an AGA T2. vaping clouds, I can see some use, but for me, it's not an all day thing.
Cloud chasing is far more than making donuts in a car... Making donuts is purely funny "look at me" behavior... Cloud chasing is a way to satisfy your need for a thick vape... When exhaling a cloud chasing type cloud you get exactly the same feeling as exhaling cigarette smoke... Cigarette smoke feels much heavier on the exhale than lets say a spinner ce4 setup, the mega clouds gives this feeling, also it gives the same sensation of full lungs as cigarettes do, and then theres the very intese flavor and the obvious funny part... But cloud chasing isnt just all fun and games... My teacher tried to quit using an ego type setup, that didnt work, but now that he have tried some cloud chaser setups he's eager to learn the art so that he can quit smoking he said and i quote "the flavor is insane in these things! And i can really feel the nicotine this way, this might really be a way to quit" so now we are a few teaching our teacher how to safely cloudchase and when we believe he understands the dangers and knows what he needs to know we will help him buy what he need to start doing it
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That's very cool of you and your friends to help him, and it's great that he'll (hopefully) be quitting smoking because of his interest in the art of cumulonimbus vaporis.
Just be sure to tell him that he shouldn't do big clouds out in public so that the anti-vapers won't have any more reasons to argue against vaping.
Are there separate vape meets for cloud chasers and are they only held outside?
Its the same as wondering why anyone would want to continuously suck on a cartomizer for 5-8 seconds when all I have to do is just take a fraction of a second draw to get 3 times the vapor and flavor. My attys are setup for cloud chasing, but my real preference is just being able to take as short of a draw as possible but achieve the greatest amount of flavor and vapor density.
But to each their own really, if blowing weather storm clouds keeps your mind off cigarettes, mission accomplished. If vaping a carto that sounds like rice crispies keeps you off cigarettes, well, keep snap crackle and poppin! Different strokes for different folks
But to each their own really, if blowing weather storm clouds keeps your mind off cigarettes, mission accomplished. If vaping a carto that sounds like rice crispies keeps you off cigarettes, well, keep snap crackle and poppin! Different strokes for different folks
i've never been to a kiss concert, either. i just do what works for me to keep from inhaling smoke. i'm sorry your way didn't work for me. i really and truly am. so is my wallet.
maybe that sums it up for some. maybe some people just like to tinker. i'm a tinkerer by nature myself. i understood electricity long before this hobby for example. but i did not look for this to be a hobby. nor do i look for it to be a competition. i am human and an addict just like you. i found what works for me and am proud of that. you found what works for you and i'm proud to be able to share our experiences together just the same.
the difference is i'm not calling you silly because you found what works for you. i'm also not judging you for it. we all went through enough of that as smokers. it's time we act like adults and get over it, don't ya think?
btw, i'm a 36yr old father of 3 and my exhale smells like fresh pancakes and isn't hurting anybody. i don't exhale massive plumes of pancake to be edgy or extreme. i'm sure my children will agree. i can do that in ways that actually are edgy and/or extreme if need be and when absolutely necessary.
Agree with you 100% -- I'm simply exercising my right to express an opinion and not patronize an establishment that doesn't offer what I was looking for. Vape on....
I will have to agree the tinkering part is (besides flavour) a big part of the appeal. Sitting at my vape table, messing around with coil builds is fun. Back in high school I was HORRIBLE at math. Still am. But vaping has taught me a lot about electricity and math. (Not a side effect I would have guessed) There always will be those who are not satisfied with what we have. They will always push the boundries of modern technology. Why? Because that's how we progress. I know a lot of people may or may not like cloud chasing, but the people who are doing it. The people who understand the risks and what can and can't be done. They are the ones pushing the vaping technology, seeing how it can be improved and worked on. The first time (and only time) I ever have really tried to cloud chase, there was a certain level of excitement of trial and error as I tinkered and tried to see how low a resistance I could make
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But vaping has taught me a lot about electricity and math. (Not a side effect I would have guessed) There always will be those who are not satisfied with what we have. They will always push the boundries of modern technology. Why? Because that's how we progress. I know a lot of people may or may not like cloud chasing, but the people who are doing it. The people who understand the risks and what can and can't be done. They are the ones pushing the vaping technology, seeing how it can be improved and worked on. The first time (and only time) I ever have really tried to cloud chase, there was a certain level of excitement of trial and error as I tinkered and tried to see how low a resistance I could make Sent from my iPhone because I'm awesome like that.
To me, sub ohm to non sub ohm is like taking a shot is to drinking a beer. I remember the first time i did a .25 ohm dual coil setup. The vapor was so dense, it was like drinking the juice. I don't do it while I set in my office or am out and about but when I am at home or a vape shop, I have at it and enjoy it. Much more enjoyable to do in an environment free of judgment.
People likt to show off.
Some drive loud cars, some wear flashy cloths, some wear shiny watches/jewels and some make big clowds.
I care how it feels and how it tastes, the size of the clowd means nothing to me.
Even when using my RDA i take moderate pulls.
Some drive loud cars, some wear flashy cloths, some wear shiny watches/jewels and some make big clowds.
I care how it feels and how it tastes, the size of the clowd means nothing to me.
Even when using my RDA i take moderate pulls.
The closest I've come to low ohm vaping is my 1.6 ohm Aspire Nautilus airflow adjustable tank. Even at 7 watts it produces something on the order of a cigar in terms of vapor. I surprise myself sometimes when I exhale. Cotton wicking and properly formed dual coils is the secret of the Nautilus, IMO. I can understand people wanting to blow huge clouds, but I find myself turning down the wattage when the clouds get too big. That's just me. PG/VG vapor is an irritant and less is more in terms of safety if you inhale the vapor.
I guess I need to go over to the local vape shop and try out one of the employee's sub ohm devices with a throwaway drip tip just to see what all the hype is about. Flavor is paramount in vaping, but do you have to be a Stanley steamer just to get good flavor?
I guess I need to go over to the local vape shop and try out one of the employee's sub ohm devices with a throwaway drip tip just to see what all the hype is about. Flavor is paramount in vaping, but do you have to be a Stanley steamer just to get good flavor?
Allow me to attempt to dispel some of the negativity towards Cloud Chasers here. Please don't pass judgement on all of us with a single stroke of your brush. It's quite offensive to be honest.
To start, I'm a grown, married father of two. I'm 32 years old, but yes... I look like I'm in my 20's. I'm Asian, I can't help that...
Let me tell you my story and hopefully some of you take the time to read and understand at least one cloud chaser's perspective.
I started smoking at the age of 14, but unlike many, I didn't do it because all of the "cool" kids were doing it. I got my interest from seeing my father smoke. I thought it was the coolest thing, to be able to exhale smoke. So one day I finally decided to borrow a cancer stick from him. It was all downhill from there. I was one of those smokers that took long drags. I liked to get as much smoke as I could without losing my consciousness. I liked doing O's and french kiss inhales. I liked to play with the smoke on the exhale a lot. Slowly to make it look misty or faster to make it spread. You can consider this a mental addiction of mine. Well, that addiction/fascination with exhaling smoke led me to another very bad substance that cost me almost 3 years of my life and health. All because that substance produced huge, dense clouds.
So along comes vaping. Tried my first cig-a-like and was not satisfied with it. Did I get the nicotine? Sure. Did I get the physical act of smoking? Certainly. But the vapor off those just did not suffice. Then a few years later, along comes my friend with this cig-a-like on steroids. It had variable voltage! BAM. I was instantly hooked. Then I discovered the world of cloud chasing. I IMMEDIATELY jumped right into it. Started soaking in as much information as I could, particularly about battery safety. The rest is history.
So what is cloud chasing to me? It's about satisfaction. Enough satisfaction to never get me to touch another cigarette or drug again. I wish with all my heart that vaping, as it exists today, was an option when I was 14. I can almost guarantee that I would have vaped and never got into cigs or that drug.
Do I like to compete? Yes I do. It's so fun to make videos and compete with other chasers. Do some take it too seriously? Well, that is just the nature of the beast. It happens in almost every other facet of hobbies.
So please, try and understand what it is about for some of us before you pass judgment. Isn't that what we are all fighting against when it comes to the non-smokers? How silly do you think you look to them puffing on these battery tubes? We have other alternatives for nicotine delivery. When it comes down to it, vaping isn't a necessity. But it works and works phenomenally. Ask yourself why for a second... it's because of the physical aspect of it all. You get the tactile feel and you get the vapor. For me, clouds takes that same idea one step further. The physical aspect of blowing a huge cloud satisfies me to no end. I don't just do it on video or at meets. I do it when I'm all alone. I get pure satisfaction from it and that is how I stay off the bad stuff.
By the way, cloud chasers are pushing the limits. They are the ones who helped me a great deal when it comes to safety and education. They are the ones that come up with great builds that any resistance vaper can use. And arguably, it's the cloud chasers that cause the best mechanicals to be designed.
I was at VapeBash representing Cloud Chasers Inc. Me and a friend started it. It has now led us to a great opportunity with Metro Vapers. We have been doing our best to educate vapers on battery safety and safe building practices. We aren't the type to just tell a new vaper to jump right into sub-ohming. And despite the name, we help all types of vapers.
Feel free to take a hit from my setup next time you see me. The flavor, throat hit, and vapor is outstanding. I'll also always have a Tiger coil setup handy
Thanks for you time. Long read, I know... but I have to tell my story when I can. We aren't all bad ya know?
To start, I'm a grown, married father of two. I'm 32 years old, but yes... I look like I'm in my 20's. I'm Asian, I can't help that...
Let me tell you my story and hopefully some of you take the time to read and understand at least one cloud chaser's perspective.
I started smoking at the age of 14, but unlike many, I didn't do it because all of the "cool" kids were doing it. I got my interest from seeing my father smoke. I thought it was the coolest thing, to be able to exhale smoke. So one day I finally decided to borrow a cancer stick from him. It was all downhill from there. I was one of those smokers that took long drags. I liked to get as much smoke as I could without losing my consciousness. I liked doing O's and french kiss inhales. I liked to play with the smoke on the exhale a lot. Slowly to make it look misty or faster to make it spread. You can consider this a mental addiction of mine. Well, that addiction/fascination with exhaling smoke led me to another very bad substance that cost me almost 3 years of my life and health. All because that substance produced huge, dense clouds.
So along comes vaping. Tried my first cig-a-like and was not satisfied with it. Did I get the nicotine? Sure. Did I get the physical act of smoking? Certainly. But the vapor off those just did not suffice. Then a few years later, along comes my friend with this cig-a-like on steroids. It had variable voltage! BAM. I was instantly hooked. Then I discovered the world of cloud chasing. I IMMEDIATELY jumped right into it. Started soaking in as much information as I could, particularly about battery safety. The rest is history.
So what is cloud chasing to me? It's about satisfaction. Enough satisfaction to never get me to touch another cigarette or drug again. I wish with all my heart that vaping, as it exists today, was an option when I was 14. I can almost guarantee that I would have vaped and never got into cigs or that drug.
Do I like to compete? Yes I do. It's so fun to make videos and compete with other chasers. Do some take it too seriously? Well, that is just the nature of the beast. It happens in almost every other facet of hobbies.
So please, try and understand what it is about for some of us before you pass judgment. Isn't that what we are all fighting against when it comes to the non-smokers? How silly do you think you look to them puffing on these battery tubes? We have other alternatives for nicotine delivery. When it comes down to it, vaping isn't a necessity. But it works and works phenomenally. Ask yourself why for a second... it's because of the physical aspect of it all. You get the tactile feel and you get the vapor. For me, clouds takes that same idea one step further. The physical aspect of blowing a huge cloud satisfies me to no end. I don't just do it on video or at meets. I do it when I'm all alone. I get pure satisfaction from it and that is how I stay off the bad stuff.
By the way, cloud chasers are pushing the limits. They are the ones who helped me a great deal when it comes to safety and education. They are the ones that come up with great builds that any resistance vaper can use. And arguably, it's the cloud chasers that cause the best mechanicals to be designed.
I was at VapeBash representing Cloud Chasers Inc. Me and a friend started it. It has now led us to a great opportunity with Metro Vapers. We have been doing our best to educate vapers on battery safety and safe building practices. We aren't the type to just tell a new vaper to jump right into sub-ohming. And despite the name, we help all types of vapers.
Feel free to take a hit from my setup next time you see me. The flavor, throat hit, and vapor is outstanding. I'll also always have a Tiger coil setup handy
Thanks for you time. Long read, I know... but I have to tell my story when I can. We aren't all bad ya know?
By the way, sub-ohm setups produce the best flavors and throat hit to me. Standard resistance coils just do not cut it for me. I mean, it gets me by, don't get me wrong. Sometimes it's nice to just have a normal vape with normal clouds. But the flavor just does not even come close to comparison.
Now, a poorly built setup with poor airflow can totally destroy a juice's flavor. It's all about properly utilizing your entire setup, not just the resistance. For example, I built a standard dual coil with 22g in one of my setups with a lot of airflow. It had almost 0 flavor at .2ohms. Then I tossed 24g twisted with .9 ribbon (Tiger coils) in the same setup also around .2 ohms. The flavor was back in full force. That's part of the obsession in rebuilding and cloud chasing. It's a skill and becomes very rewarding when you get stuff to click in that manner.
Now, a poorly built setup with poor airflow can totally destroy a juice's flavor. It's all about properly utilizing your entire setup, not just the resistance. For example, I built a standard dual coil with 22g in one of my setups with a lot of airflow. It had almost 0 flavor at .2ohms. Then I tossed 24g twisted with .9 ribbon (Tiger coils) in the same setup also around .2 ohms. The flavor was back in full force. That's part of the obsession in rebuilding and cloud chasing. It's a skill and becomes very rewarding when you get stuff to click in that manner.
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