What's Wrong With This Ad?
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Thank you ALL for your input. Best darned human beings on the planet right here, that's for sure! Honestly, thank you ALL!!!
Until I get a chance to talk with the store owner privately, I'll avoid poking that bear.I'm so glad I'm not the only one who sees a big part of "our problem" as a perception issue. For quite awhile I thought I was just being hypersensitive.
As DavidOck said, there's no putting that genie back in the bottle but I do feel subtle shifts in perception would help "our cause".
Speaking of perceptions, another black man was shot in San Diego County (El Cajon to be precise) by police today after pointing his PV at them like a gun. The media is simply saying "an object" but as soon as we saw the photo of his box mod laying on the ground and the photo of him pointing it at police like a pistol, we both said, "Oh my god! That's a box mod!" I can only imagine how the media is going to spin this.
Okay, back on topic. Here's the first draft of the upcoming article. Please chime in on ideas and suggestions. There is no room to add anything but there are some editing options. Overall I'm reasonably happy with it but feel there is always room for improvement in all things.
Silence Speaks Volumes
I first started refuting the anti vaping ads and articles in this paper in the July issue. Since then I have exposed the lies, presented facts supporting the truth and refuted the irrefutable. Not surprisingly, there has been no response to my articles and the anti smoking organizations have reverted to anti smoking ads. Opinion and pseudo science are no match for the facts and the truth and I suppose I should consider this at least a small victory for pro vaping advocacy.
Unfortunately, that is not the case. This is another tactic that opinion based, pseudo science movements have started using over the past several years. It works like this: We’ll spread our opinions and lies until someone challenges them and once they are exposed, we’ll just go silent and end the discussion. With nothing to challenge, the opposition will tire and go away. The truth and the facts won’t get out and we’ll continue on our merry way, quietly and behind the scenes.
Well, I’m not going away. The FDA’s “Deeming Regulations” are marching forward unchecked and even many vapers don’t understand the full implications of these regulations. Most think that it just relates to child safety caps on the e-liquid bottles and device safety. Nothing could be further from the truth. This nearly 500 page document of regulations (another tactic – make it so long and involved that even the people it directly affects get frustrated with the minutia and give up) covers every constituent of vaping devices from cotton to wire to batteries to chip sets to the e-liquid, with or without nicotine, subjecting every device not available on or before 2007 to pre market testing at a cost of an estimated $100,000 per SKU. That’s every device and every flavor of e-liquid and it’s not just a onetime fee for a single flavor, it’s every nicotine level within that flavor. Say you make a single flavor of e-liquid and you provide that flavor in zero, 3 mg./ml., 6 mg./ml. and 9mg./ml. nicotine levels. The cost of the pre market testing for this single flavor would be $400,000 and it does not guarantee that your single flavor will be approved for sale. Furthermore, the retail stores are restricted by law not to teach battery safety, modify any device (which includes building or installing coils or wicks for their customers) or to provide free tastings. The industry as a whole is restricted by law from stating that vaping is at least 95% safer than smoking tobacco or that modern vapor product have any tobacco harm reduction value even though that is the fact on both counts. Since 2007, the vapor industry has self regulated and done very well at eliminating the very compounds in e-liquid that the FDA is forcing the industry to go back to because that is the most recent research they have based their regulations on. One has to ask themselves, whether they feel this issue affects them or not, if this is honestly in the public’s health interest.
Here’s why you don’t know what you don’t know. In this month’s (Oct.) issue of Scientific American, find the full article titled “How the FDA Manipulates the Media”. It explains that the FDA has a “tool” that they use to suppress information. It’s called a Close-Hold Embargo. A basic overview of how this embargo works is this; A scientific finding, in this case the FDA’s “Deeming Regulations”, is posted to select “trusted” reporters and media outlets with the stipulation that the information cannot be published before a stated time and date AND there can be NO outreach to other sources than those approved by the organization making the release. This essentially eliminates independent reporting. Full details can be seen here: http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-the-fda-manipulates-the-media/#
Last month I concluded my article with, “Your deep fried or flame broiled delicacy may be next.” To some that may have sounded like hyperbole but on 9/26/16 the news media released the story that the Oklahoma Cattle Farmers Association is under fire from the SPCA and the SPCA is trying to force Federal Regulations on that industry, making it almost impossible to raise cattle for your dinner plate.
I realize we all have very busy live. At the same time, if we all plod along as sheeple, special interests will rule us all. Your silence speaks volumes too and “they” are LOVING IT!
Vapers Unite!
Hello Von.
That all sounds good to me. 
The only thing that stood out to me was it looks like you need to add an 's' to 'live', in the sentence 'I realize we all have very busy live.', in the last paragraph.
Thanks for all you're doing.
^^^ yes, lives. Otherwise, great!Hello Von.
The only thing that stood out to me was it looks like you need to add an 's' to 'live', in the sentence 'I realize we all have very busy live.', in the last paragraph.
Thanks for all you're doing.
Excellent as usual, Von! Respect!Thank you ALL for your input. Best darned human beings on the planet right here, that's for sure! Honestly, thank you ALL!!!
Until I get a chance to talk with the store owner privately, I'll avoid poking that bear.
Speaking of perceptions, another black man was shot in San Diego County (El Cajon to be precise) by police today after pointing his PV at them like a gun. The media is simply saying "an object" but as soon as we saw the photo of his box mod laying on the ground and the photo of him pointing it at police like a pistol, we both said, "Oh my god! That's a box mod!" I can only imagine how the media is going to spin this.
Okay, back on topic. Here's the first draft of the upcoming article. Please chime in on ideas and suggestions. There is no room to add anything but there are some editing options. Overall I'm reasonably happy with it but feel there is always room for improvement in all things.
Silence Speaks Volumes
I first started refuting the anti vaping ads and articles in this paper in the July issue. Since then I have exposed the lies, presented facts supporting the truth and refuted the irrefutable. Not surprisingly, there has been no response to my articles and the anti smoking organizations have reverted to anti smoking ads. Opinion and pseudo science are no match for the facts and the truth and I suppose I should consider this at least a small victory for pro vaping advocacy.
Unfortunately, that is not the case. This is another tactic that opinion based, pseudo science movements have started using over the past several years. It works like this: We’ll spread our opinions and lies until someone challenges them and once they are exposed, we’ll just go silent and end the discussion. With nothing to challenge, the opposition will tire and go away. The truth and the facts won’t get out and we’ll continue on our merry way, quietly and behind the scenes.
Well, I’m not going away. The FDA’s “Deeming Regulations” are marching forward unchecked and even many vapers don’t understand the full implications of these regulations. Most think that it just relates to child safety caps on the e-liquid bottles and device safety. Nothing could be further from the truth. This nearly 500 page document of regulations (another tactic – make it so long and involved that even the people it directly affects get frustrated with the minutia and give up) covers every constituent of vaping devices from cotton to wire to batteries to chip sets to the e-liquid, with or without nicotine, subjecting every device not available on or before 2007 to pre market testing at a cost of an estimated $100,000 per SKU. That’s every device and every flavor of e-liquid and it’s not just a onetime fee for a single flavor, it’s every nicotine level within that flavor. Say you make a single flavor of e-liquid and you provide that flavor in zero, 3 mg./ml., 6 mg./ml. and 9mg./ml. nicotine levels. The cost of the pre market testing for this single flavor would be $400,000 and it does not guarantee that your single flavor will be approved for sale. Furthermore, the retail stores are restricted by law not to teach battery safety, modify any device (which includes building or installing coils or wicks for their customers) or to provide free tastings. The industry as a whole is restricted by law from stating that vaping is at least 95% safer than smoking tobacco or that modern vapor product have any tobacco harm reduction value even though that is the fact on both counts. Since 2007, the vapor industry has self regulated and done very well at eliminating the very compounds in e-liquid that the FDA is forcing the industry to go back to because that is the most recent research they have based their regulations on. One has to ask themselves, whether they feel this issue affects them or not, if this is honestly in the public’s health interest.
Here’s why you don’t know what you don’t know. In this month’s (Oct.) issue of Scientific American, find the full article titled “How the FDA Manipulates the Media”. It explains that the FDA has a “tool” that they use to suppress information. It’s called a Close-Hold Embargo. A basic overview of how this embargo works is this; A scientific finding, in this case the FDA’s “Deeming Regulations”, is posted to select “trusted” reporters and media outlets with the stipulation that the information cannot be published before a stated time and date AND there can be NO outreach to other sources than those approved by the organization making the release. This essentially eliminates independent reporting. Full details can be seen here: http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-the-fda-manipulates-the-media/#
Last month I concluded my article with, “Your deep fried or flame broiled delicacy may be next.” To some that may have sounded like hyperbole but on 9/26/16 the news media released the story that the Oklahoma Cattle Farmers Association is under fire from the SPCA and the SPCA is trying to force Federal Regulations on that industry, making it almost impossible to raise cattle for your dinner plate.
I realize we all have very busy live. At the same time, if we all plod along as sheeple, special interests will rule us all. Your silence speaks volumes too and “they” are LOVING IT!
Vapers Unite!
Great article darlin!!! Just a couple things for your consideration.....
Jup definitely agree on referencing Royal College of Physicians and BHS. You're doing amazing......so glad you have a voice for this and I love the statement........well, I'm not going away!!!
this is one sentence, and I kinda got bogged down in it.
this is great, but when presenting your costs.........isn't the 100,000 JUST for the pmta? The cost is actually much higher due to the testing that would have to be done on each one to have even a hope of it getting approved......so I would mention that and how it runs into the millions for just one flavor. Let me know if I'm not right on that.
I would go into a little more detail here. The FDA states that they are trying to make vaping safer for the public......but they've put B&Ms in a position of selling items, but actually making them less safe for the consumer by not being able to demonstrate how to build etc. Far as I know though, they can hand out pamplets on batt safety or verbally teach it, just can't do anything to the actual mod or atty so I might reword that they are restricted by law not to teach battery safety.
Splain please? I don't know what compounds we've gotten rid of that they FDA is forcing the industry to go back to. We've mostly gotten rid of diketones, but that's the only one I'm really aware of.
Jup definitely agree on referencing Royal College of Physicians and BHS. You're doing amazing......so glad you have a voice for this and I love the statement........well, I'm not going away!!!
Those blends weren't available pre '07, so will not be grand-fathered. The ones WITH were available, so may be....
But maybe add references to child-proof caps and better labeling?
Diketones aren't gone. Most companies note on their websites what juices contain diketones & have v2's or DX versions without them. I, personally, don't worry about it. It's just one of the things ANTS beat their drum over.
yeah I know they aren't gone.......that's why I said mostly. I don't worry bout em neither. Just didn't know what he was getting at
Yes ma'am, I agree, it is quite wordy and hard to digest. At the same time, it kind of points out just that, the "make it long and overreaching" aspect of the regulations. I do agree with you though, it could use some "massaging".
Thanks for your other notes too. That's always a help. I'm guessin' that Kenna & David helped with the "diketone" issue. That is what I was referring to as far as "compounds" and Kenna's right, they haven't gone away but the ANTZ sure do like to "bang their drum" about all of the "evil" schtuff in vapor. (sarcasm) They're worse than cigarettes you know! LOFreakin'L!!! 
Fortifying the "safety" aspects is a good idea too. I'll try to figure out how I can rework things a bit and see if I can get it in. You're all great and really helpful. It's good to have a sounding board before submitting the final draft and you guys and gals are ALL the best!!! GO TEAM!!!
Thanks again to EVERYONE!!! Vapers Unite!
Von Vape
Safety aspects for sure.Yes ma'am, I agree, it is quite wordy and hard to digest. At the same time, it kind of points out just that, the "make it long and overreaching" aspect of the regulations. I do agree with you though, it could use some "massaging".
You're all great and really helpful. It's good to have a sounding board before submitting the final draft and you guys and gals are ALL the best!!! GO TEAM!!!
Vapers Unite!
I'm baaaack..........
Wow, this election really took a toll on me! I withdrew almost completely for the last two months and I'm sure I have a lot of catching up to do!
To bring you up to speed on the vaping advocacy articles in The Peoples Paper, the Oct./Nov. issue was ALL political op-ed stuff so the intended article did not go in. Instead it was published in the Nov./Dec. edition and can be seen here:
Silence Speaks Volumes
The Mid November issue anti vaping org's ad again concentrated on tobacco and the 12,200 Alaskan children that are exposed to second hand smoke in their homes every year. Having already refuted the irrefutable in a previous article, I suspect these ads will be taken with more of a grain of salt and they deal more with tobacco anyway. HOWEVER, just days later the same, flavors - children - big tobacco "preying" on our youth - "replacing" their sick and dying customers, B.S. ads started showing up on prime time network television! You know me, I pounced on it immediately!
I called the local NBC station and was directed to the head of advertising. I got her voice mail and left a message stating that I felt that the ads violated FCC/FTC regulations and would like to discuss this with her. After waiting all day for a return call that never came, I emailed her and got a fairly quick response saying she would pass my email along to the agency that placed the ad and have them contact me directly. After waiting an additional 13 days with no response, I filed complaints with the FCC & FTC, first thing in the morning. By 3:30 that same afternoon the State of Alaska emailed me. Following is my email to the local NBC carrier and Alaska Quit Line's response.
Hello Nancy Johnson,
Recently I started noticing channel 2 is running anti vaping ads from Quit Line Alaska-Breathe Free Alaska-Alaska Family Services and feel that their messages run contrary to FTC/FCC regulations.
Health Claims
Companies must support their advertising claims with solid proof. This is especially true for businesses that market food, over-the-counter drugs, dietary supplements, contact lenses, and other health-related products.
Advertising and Marketing Basics
Under the law, claims in advertisements must be truthful, cannot be deceptive or unfair, and must be evidence-based. For some specialized products or services, additional rules may apply.
Make no mistake, they are marketing their own NRT products and unfairly demonizing an entire life saving industry at the same time. The claims being made by Breathe Free Alaska, Alaska Quit Line and Alaska Family Services are NOT true, do NOT use “solid proof” nor are they “evidence based” or "fair". The fact is that the flavors used in e-liquids are USP grade – FDA authorized for ingestion - flavorings used in everyday foods and beverages that we all consume regularly. E-liquid flavors are NOT marketing tactics for children and regulations are already in place prohibiting the sale of such products to anyone under the age of 21. Furthermore, the tobacco industry has very little to do with the vaping industry and is not trying to “replace” its “sick and dying customers” with vaping products. The primitive and ineffective products they produce are an effort to regain their market share. As modern vaping product use has become more widely spread, the DECLINE in tobacco product use is at it's lowest in over 50 years, falling by 2% last year alone. Vaping is saving lives.
According to The Royal College of Physicians (Great Britain) and the FDA’s own National Health Institute report, nicotine is not addictive, is not a carcinogen and is being used successfully in the treatment of Parkinson’s and Alzheimer’s Disease. Nicotine is also found in Potatoes, Tomatoes, Eggplant and virtually every plant in the Nightshade family. The FDA ignores these FACTS to retain the income of the Tobacco settlement taxes and maintain the pharmaceutical industry’s hold on NRT products. In their “Deeming Regulations” (released Aug. – 2016) a nearly 500 page set of regulations, the FDA insured that the vaping industry would be muzzled by including regulations AGAINST any producer or organization from stating the PROVEN tobacco harm reduction and other health benefits of vaping. It is estimated (By the U.N. - World Health Organization) that a BILLION lives will be saved through the use of modern vaping products in this century IF they are allowed to be put into easily accessible use. (*I REALLY shouldn't have paraphrased here as you'll see later!*) As a private citizen I am not bound by these regulations but cannot afford to buy repudiating advertising.
I am respectfully asking KTUU to discontinue running these inaccurate and inflammatory ads or at the very least, post a disclaimer stating that these messages are opinions NOT based in fact and NOT the opinion of KTUU. I also suggest a factual investigative report on this subject and strongly recommend one. The single largest PREVENTABLE tragedy in the history of mankind, the loss of a billion lives due to tobacco use, is happening right now but is going unreported. My research is available on request. I also recommend the recently released documentary film “A Billion Lives” (Attention Era Media) which bluntly exposes the corruption in government and industry that is driving the demonization of vaping.
Respectfully,
_____________________________________ Response ___________________________________
11-29 -16
Good Day Mr. *** ,
The State of Alaska Tobacco Prevention and Control Program has received the email you sent to Nancy Johnson at KTUU on 11/15/16. Please see our responses to the points outlined in your email.
1. Marketing of products: The State of Alaska does not market and has no financial interest in any products for tobacco cessation. We recommend FDA-approved cessation products that are regulated for safety and effectiveness. There is currently no scientific evidence or meta-analysis of research in the U.S. that demonstrates e-cigarettes are a safe and effective cessation device. To be determined as a cessation device and legally sold as such, manufacturers must submit their product for FDA review. To date, electronic nicotine delivery systems have been submitted only as a tobacco product, not a cessation product.
2. Evidence-based facts: All facts used in Tobacco Prevention and Control messages are reviewed for accuracy.
3. Flavorings: According to the Flavor and Extract Manufacturer’s Association (FEMA), flavors are meant to be ingested only, not inhaled. On March 3, 2015 FEMA updated their statement in “The Safety Assessment and Regulatory Authority to Use Flavors – Focus on E-Cigarettes; and rejects the claims being made for e-cigarettes. In part it reads:
o The Generally Recognized as Safe (GRAS) program (sponsored by the Flavor and Extract Manufacturers Association of the United States FEM), evaluates flavor ingredients for use in products other than human food. FEMA GRAS status for the use of a flavor ingredient in food does not provide regulatory authority to use the flavor ingredient in e-cigarettes in the U.S.
o E-cigarette and flavor manufacturers and marketers should not represent or suggest that the flavor ingredients used in e-cigarettes are safe because they have FEMA GRAS status for use in food; such statements are false and misleading.
o E-cigarette manufacturers and marketers should take appropriate action to assure the safety of flavor ingredients used in e-cigarettes. FEMA GRAS status for the use of flavor ingredients in food does not mean that FEMA GRAS flavor ingredients are safe for use in e-cigarettes.
According to their own documents, major tobacco companies have utilized flavorings to entice youth: Ex: “Cherry Skoal is for somebody who likes the taste of candy, if you know what I’m saying,” (Former U.S. Smokeless Tobacco Company sales representative).
Data from the 2013-2014 Population Assessment of Tobacco and Health (PATH) study found 80.8 percent of 12-17 year olds who had ever used a tobacco product initiated tobacco use with a flavored product. Moreover, for each tobacco product, at least two-thirds of youth report using these products “because they come in flavors I like.” (Campaign for Tobacco Free Kids (CTFK), Flavored Tobacco Products Attract Kids). Under FDA legislation in 2009, candy and fruit flavoring in cigarettes were prohibited.
4. Tobacco industry involvement: Several brands are owned by major tobacco companies: Altria produces “Mark Ten”, Imperial Tobacco manufactures “blu” and “SkyCig”, Reynolds American manufactures “Vuse” and British American Tobacco manufactures “Vype”.
5. Decline in tobacco product use: The media you referenced concerns the alarming e-cig use among youth and the potential for increasing their use of combustible or smokeless tobacco. In the U.S., youth e-cigarette use tripled from 2011 to 2013. E-cigarette marketing dollars grew from under 10 million in 2011 to more than 80 million in 2013. In 2013, 73 percent of 12 to 17 year olds were exposed to “blu” e-cigarette advertising from Imperial Tobacco alone. During this same time, after a 70 percent cigarette use decline (from 37 percent in 1995 to 11 percent in 2011), youth cigarette use in Alaska remained flat at 11 percent and has remained at that level through 2015 – it has not continued to decline. In addition, 18 percent of Alaska’s youth use tobacco in the form of cigarettes, cigars or smokeless tobacco, and 18 percent are using e-cigarettes. Recent studies show adolescents who reported e-cigarette use had more than six times the odds of initiating combustible cigarette use as had those who never used e-cigarettes.
6. “Vaping is saving lives”: With more U.S. youth taking up e-cigarettes and the evidence showing increased potential for those youth to continue nicotine addiction through cigarettes, there is a resulting potential for increased diseased caused by the tobacco use. Current research in the U.S. regarding adult cessation due to e-cigarettes does not demonstrate the product as effective.
7. Nicotine: According to the U.S. Surgeon General reports (1964, 2000, 2004, 2006, 2010, 2012, and 2014) on tobacco, nicotine is a highly addictive neurotoxin, According to their own documents and research, tobacco companies are aware of this fact: “We are, then, in the business of selling nicotine, an addictive drug,” (Addison Yeaman, General Counsel to Brown & Williamson Tobacco Company 1963). Exposure to nicotine during adolescence can disrupt the formation of brain circuits that control attention, learning and susceptibility to addiction.
8. Nicotine in tomatoes, potatoes and eggplants: Many of the claims about the nicotine content in vegetables cite a 1993 letter to the editor in the New England Journal of Medicine (NEJM) and a subsequent response to that letter (see citations below). Henningfield estimates one must consume 220 pounds of tomatoes in a day to produce the equivalent of half a cigarette. That is not accounting for the differences in consumption versus inhalation.
(Domino EF, Hornbach E, Demana T (1993): the nicotine content of common vegetables. New England Journal of Medicine, Correspondence 329(6), 437) (Henningfield JE (1993) New England Journal of Medicine, Correspondence 329(21), 1581-2.)
9. FDA Deeming Regulations: The manufacturers of electronic nicotine delivery systems did not apply to the FDA as cessation devices, and were not reviewed as such. (See first bullet point) In order to be legally established as a cessation device, a manufacturer would need to apply to the FDA under that category.
10. World Health Organization (WHO) estimate of lives saved through vaping products: in the WHO “Electronic nicotine delivery systems” (ENDS) report of September 1, 2014, there is no statement of lives being saved through vaping products. The document states there is currently insufficient evidence to conclude e-cigarettes help users quit smoking and there is the need for product regulation:
35. Regulation of ENDS is a necessary precondition for establishing a scientific basis on which to judge the effects of their use, and for ensuring that adequate research is conducted, that the public has current, reliable information as to the potential risks and benefits of ENDS, and that the health of the public is protected.
40. Health claims Prohibit manufacturers and third parties from making health claims for ENDS, including that ENDS are smoking cessation aids, until manufacturers provide convincing supporting scientific evidence and obtain regulatory approval. The regulatory standard for cessation claims and approval as cessation aids should remain an appropriate body of evidence, based on well-controlled clinical trials.
In summary, E-cigarettes are not approved by the FDA for smoking cessation, they are not regulated for safety, and numerous studies raise concern for their negative impact on health and the long term implications of e-cigarettes are unknown. The Tobacco Prevention and Control Program is committed to reducing the use of tobacco and tobacco products with the long-term goal of improving the health and well-being of Alaskans.
Please contact me if I can provide additional information.
Thank you.
___________________________________________________________________________________
Rather dismissive and single minded, wouldn't you say? I considered responding to this "read receipt requested" email but I doubt that arguing with a wall will further the cause. I am disappointed that a state that is 5 billion dollars upside down is spending even one dollar on demonizing an entire industry in an effort to maintain the status quo. As with the rest of the country, the State of Alaska refuses to make an effort to find common ground and work together for the benefit of ALL people. It is tragic to me that "winning the argument" and maintaining the status quo are more important than lives. Dismissing people as deplorable and irredeemable doesn't always work out so well. Maybe I will respond to Ms. Hample's letter just that way. I welcome your thoughts, comments and input.
One thing's for sure, I won't stop fighting the good fight! More articles COMING UP!
Vapers Unite!
Von Vape
Wow, this election really took a toll on me! I withdrew almost completely for the last two months and I'm sure I have a lot of catching up to do!
To bring you up to speed on the vaping advocacy articles in The Peoples Paper, the Oct./Nov. issue was ALL political op-ed stuff so the intended article did not go in. Instead it was published in the Nov./Dec. edition and can be seen here:
Silence Speaks Volumes
The Mid November issue anti vaping org's ad again concentrated on tobacco and the 12,200 Alaskan children that are exposed to second hand smoke in their homes every year. Having already refuted the irrefutable in a previous article, I suspect these ads will be taken with more of a grain of salt and they deal more with tobacco anyway. HOWEVER, just days later the same, flavors - children - big tobacco "preying" on our youth - "replacing" their sick and dying customers, B.S. ads started showing up on prime time network television! You know me, I pounced on it immediately!
I called the local NBC station and was directed to the head of advertising. I got her voice mail and left a message stating that I felt that the ads violated FCC/FTC regulations and would like to discuss this with her. After waiting all day for a return call that never came, I emailed her and got a fairly quick response saying she would pass my email along to the agency that placed the ad and have them contact me directly. After waiting an additional 13 days with no response, I filed complaints with the FCC & FTC, first thing in the morning. By 3:30 that same afternoon the State of Alaska emailed me. Following is my email to the local NBC carrier and Alaska Quit Line's response.
Hello Nancy Johnson,
Recently I started noticing channel 2 is running anti vaping ads from Quit Line Alaska-Breathe Free Alaska-Alaska Family Services and feel that their messages run contrary to FTC/FCC regulations.
Health Claims
Companies must support their advertising claims with solid proof. This is especially true for businesses that market food, over-the-counter drugs, dietary supplements, contact lenses, and other health-related products.
Advertising and Marketing Basics
Under the law, claims in advertisements must be truthful, cannot be deceptive or unfair, and must be evidence-based. For some specialized products or services, additional rules may apply.
Make no mistake, they are marketing their own NRT products and unfairly demonizing an entire life saving industry at the same time. The claims being made by Breathe Free Alaska, Alaska Quit Line and Alaska Family Services are NOT true, do NOT use “solid proof” nor are they “evidence based” or "fair". The fact is that the flavors used in e-liquids are USP grade – FDA authorized for ingestion - flavorings used in everyday foods and beverages that we all consume regularly. E-liquid flavors are NOT marketing tactics for children and regulations are already in place prohibiting the sale of such products to anyone under the age of 21. Furthermore, the tobacco industry has very little to do with the vaping industry and is not trying to “replace” its “sick and dying customers” with vaping products. The primitive and ineffective products they produce are an effort to regain their market share. As modern vaping product use has become more widely spread, the DECLINE in tobacco product use is at it's lowest in over 50 years, falling by 2% last year alone. Vaping is saving lives.
According to The Royal College of Physicians (Great Britain) and the FDA’s own National Health Institute report, nicotine is not addictive, is not a carcinogen and is being used successfully in the treatment of Parkinson’s and Alzheimer’s Disease. Nicotine is also found in Potatoes, Tomatoes, Eggplant and virtually every plant in the Nightshade family. The FDA ignores these FACTS to retain the income of the Tobacco settlement taxes and maintain the pharmaceutical industry’s hold on NRT products. In their “Deeming Regulations” (released Aug. – 2016) a nearly 500 page set of regulations, the FDA insured that the vaping industry would be muzzled by including regulations AGAINST any producer or organization from stating the PROVEN tobacco harm reduction and other health benefits of vaping. It is estimated (By the U.N. - World Health Organization) that a BILLION lives will be saved through the use of modern vaping products in this century IF they are allowed to be put into easily accessible use. (*I REALLY shouldn't have paraphrased here as you'll see later!*) As a private citizen I am not bound by these regulations but cannot afford to buy repudiating advertising.
I am respectfully asking KTUU to discontinue running these inaccurate and inflammatory ads or at the very least, post a disclaimer stating that these messages are opinions NOT based in fact and NOT the opinion of KTUU. I also suggest a factual investigative report on this subject and strongly recommend one. The single largest PREVENTABLE tragedy in the history of mankind, the loss of a billion lives due to tobacco use, is happening right now but is going unreported. My research is available on request. I also recommend the recently released documentary film “A Billion Lives” (Attention Era Media) which bluntly exposes the corruption in government and industry that is driving the demonization of vaping.
Respectfully,
_____________________________________ Response ___________________________________
11-29 -16
Good Day Mr. *** ,
The State of Alaska Tobacco Prevention and Control Program has received the email you sent to Nancy Johnson at KTUU on 11/15/16. Please see our responses to the points outlined in your email.
1. Marketing of products: The State of Alaska does not market and has no financial interest in any products for tobacco cessation. We recommend FDA-approved cessation products that are regulated for safety and effectiveness. There is currently no scientific evidence or meta-analysis of research in the U.S. that demonstrates e-cigarettes are a safe and effective cessation device. To be determined as a cessation device and legally sold as such, manufacturers must submit their product for FDA review. To date, electronic nicotine delivery systems have been submitted only as a tobacco product, not a cessation product.
2. Evidence-based facts: All facts used in Tobacco Prevention and Control messages are reviewed for accuracy.
3. Flavorings: According to the Flavor and Extract Manufacturer’s Association (FEMA), flavors are meant to be ingested only, not inhaled. On March 3, 2015 FEMA updated their statement in “The Safety Assessment and Regulatory Authority to Use Flavors – Focus on E-Cigarettes; and rejects the claims being made for e-cigarettes. In part it reads:
o The Generally Recognized as Safe (GRAS) program (sponsored by the Flavor and Extract Manufacturers Association of the United States FEM), evaluates flavor ingredients for use in products other than human food. FEMA GRAS status for the use of a flavor ingredient in food does not provide regulatory authority to use the flavor ingredient in e-cigarettes in the U.S.
o E-cigarette and flavor manufacturers and marketers should not represent or suggest that the flavor ingredients used in e-cigarettes are safe because they have FEMA GRAS status for use in food; such statements are false and misleading.
o E-cigarette manufacturers and marketers should take appropriate action to assure the safety of flavor ingredients used in e-cigarettes. FEMA GRAS status for the use of flavor ingredients in food does not mean that FEMA GRAS flavor ingredients are safe for use in e-cigarettes.
According to their own documents, major tobacco companies have utilized flavorings to entice youth: Ex: “Cherry Skoal is for somebody who likes the taste of candy, if you know what I’m saying,” (Former U.S. Smokeless Tobacco Company sales representative).
Data from the 2013-2014 Population Assessment of Tobacco and Health (PATH) study found 80.8 percent of 12-17 year olds who had ever used a tobacco product initiated tobacco use with a flavored product. Moreover, for each tobacco product, at least two-thirds of youth report using these products “because they come in flavors I like.” (Campaign for Tobacco Free Kids (CTFK), Flavored Tobacco Products Attract Kids). Under FDA legislation in 2009, candy and fruit flavoring in cigarettes were prohibited.
4. Tobacco industry involvement: Several brands are owned by major tobacco companies: Altria produces “Mark Ten”, Imperial Tobacco manufactures “blu” and “SkyCig”, Reynolds American manufactures “Vuse” and British American Tobacco manufactures “Vype”.
5. Decline in tobacco product use: The media you referenced concerns the alarming e-cig use among youth and the potential for increasing their use of combustible or smokeless tobacco. In the U.S., youth e-cigarette use tripled from 2011 to 2013. E-cigarette marketing dollars grew from under 10 million in 2011 to more than 80 million in 2013. In 2013, 73 percent of 12 to 17 year olds were exposed to “blu” e-cigarette advertising from Imperial Tobacco alone. During this same time, after a 70 percent cigarette use decline (from 37 percent in 1995 to 11 percent in 2011), youth cigarette use in Alaska remained flat at 11 percent and has remained at that level through 2015 – it has not continued to decline. In addition, 18 percent of Alaska’s youth use tobacco in the form of cigarettes, cigars or smokeless tobacco, and 18 percent are using e-cigarettes. Recent studies show adolescents who reported e-cigarette use had more than six times the odds of initiating combustible cigarette use as had those who never used e-cigarettes.
6. “Vaping is saving lives”: With more U.S. youth taking up e-cigarettes and the evidence showing increased potential for those youth to continue nicotine addiction through cigarettes, there is a resulting potential for increased diseased caused by the tobacco use. Current research in the U.S. regarding adult cessation due to e-cigarettes does not demonstrate the product as effective.
7. Nicotine: According to the U.S. Surgeon General reports (1964, 2000, 2004, 2006, 2010, 2012, and 2014) on tobacco, nicotine is a highly addictive neurotoxin, According to their own documents and research, tobacco companies are aware of this fact: “We are, then, in the business of selling nicotine, an addictive drug,” (Addison Yeaman, General Counsel to Brown & Williamson Tobacco Company 1963). Exposure to nicotine during adolescence can disrupt the formation of brain circuits that control attention, learning and susceptibility to addiction.
8. Nicotine in tomatoes, potatoes and eggplants: Many of the claims about the nicotine content in vegetables cite a 1993 letter to the editor in the New England Journal of Medicine (NEJM) and a subsequent response to that letter (see citations below). Henningfield estimates one must consume 220 pounds of tomatoes in a day to produce the equivalent of half a cigarette. That is not accounting for the differences in consumption versus inhalation.
(Domino EF, Hornbach E, Demana T (1993): the nicotine content of common vegetables. New England Journal of Medicine, Correspondence 329(6), 437) (Henningfield JE (1993) New England Journal of Medicine, Correspondence 329(21), 1581-2.)
9. FDA Deeming Regulations: The manufacturers of electronic nicotine delivery systems did not apply to the FDA as cessation devices, and were not reviewed as such. (See first bullet point) In order to be legally established as a cessation device, a manufacturer would need to apply to the FDA under that category.
10. World Health Organization (WHO) estimate of lives saved through vaping products: in the WHO “Electronic nicotine delivery systems” (ENDS) report of September 1, 2014, there is no statement of lives being saved through vaping products. The document states there is currently insufficient evidence to conclude e-cigarettes help users quit smoking and there is the need for product regulation:
35. Regulation of ENDS is a necessary precondition for establishing a scientific basis on which to judge the effects of their use, and for ensuring that adequate research is conducted, that the public has current, reliable information as to the potential risks and benefits of ENDS, and that the health of the public is protected.
40. Health claims Prohibit manufacturers and third parties from making health claims for ENDS, including that ENDS are smoking cessation aids, until manufacturers provide convincing supporting scientific evidence and obtain regulatory approval. The regulatory standard for cessation claims and approval as cessation aids should remain an appropriate body of evidence, based on well-controlled clinical trials.
In summary, E-cigarettes are not approved by the FDA for smoking cessation, they are not regulated for safety, and numerous studies raise concern for their negative impact on health and the long term implications of e-cigarettes are unknown. The Tobacco Prevention and Control Program is committed to reducing the use of tobacco and tobacco products with the long-term goal of improving the health and well-being of Alaskans.
Please contact me if I can provide additional information.
Thank you.
___________________________________________________________________________________
Rather dismissive and single minded, wouldn't you say? I considered responding to this "read receipt requested" email but I doubt that arguing with a wall will further the cause. I am disappointed that a state that is 5 billion dollars upside down is spending even one dollar on demonizing an entire industry in an effort to maintain the status quo. As with the rest of the country, the State of Alaska refuses to make an effort to find common ground and work together for the benefit of ALL people. It is tragic to me that "winning the argument" and maintaining the status quo are more important than lives. Dismissing people as deplorable and irredeemable doesn't always work out so well. Maybe I will respond to Ms. Hample's letter just that way. I welcome your thoughts, comments and input.
One thing's for sure, I won't stop fighting the good fight! More articles COMING UP!
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Their response to you was quite detailed and lengthy. I have to guess that they prepared it in advance, in anticipation of complaints like yours. Or maybe they write up stuff like that for all Ads. I don't know how that stuff works.
I guess they had a point about tomatoes. But Section 5 seemed particularly full of junk. "Recent studies show...". Really. Vaping teens are 6 times more likely to start smoking. And teen smoking stayed at 11% from 2011 through 2015. Maybe that's true in Alaska but I've seen different numbers. And 18% vaping. You can get numbers like that if you include teens who have tried a vape one or more times in the last 6 months. We've all seen those studies. Not much we can do though. There's a study out there to back up every opinion.
Good on you for prodding them though.
I guess they had a point about tomatoes. But Section 5 seemed particularly full of junk. "Recent studies show...". Really. Vaping teens are 6 times more likely to start smoking. And teen smoking stayed at 11% from 2011 through 2015. Maybe that's true in Alaska but I've seen different numbers. And 18% vaping. You can get numbers like that if you include teens who have tried a vape one or more times in the last 6 months. We've all seen those studies. Not much we can do though. There's a study out there to back up every opinion.
Good on you for prodding them though.
What comes to my mind is what the FCC response will be. Your State agency is just regurgitating the FuDA, and protecting the income stream. Only way to change that is via your legislature.
Thank you for your support @englishmick and @DavidOck .
Yes, I concur e.m. The nicotine in vegies is a bit of a stretch and I already knew that going in. My point was that it IS in there, not how much and as suspected "they" took the bait and blew the whole thing out of proportion. I find it ironic that half truths from our side are hyperbole but are perfectly acceptable from their side . HAR!!! That being said, in all honesty, where will "they" draw the line? You may have seen the FDA touting the "new" GMO potato that is nearly impervious to potato famine blithe, for having "considerably lower levels of nicotine than organic potatoes". Never mind "their" concern over salt, sugar and fat levels in the foods we consume or the "junk food & soda taxes" that many states have adopted. Where will it end??? It was also sad that she completely twisted what I was saying in regard to vaping vs. smoking rates, turning it into a "youth" thing and jockeying the numbers to fit her own narrative. The "several recent studies" was rich wasn't it. ~ Recent election results show that people don't like being disregarded, disrespected or dismissed as deplorable & irredeemable either. HAR again!!!
D.O. The FCC got back to me yesterday and stated that it was a matter for the FTC. Thankfully I have already filed a complaint with them too. I suspect it was coincidence that she responded the same afternoon of the morning I filed the FTC compliant. The wheels of government just don't work that fast. It's a bit tricky to navigate FTC's site to complain about a commercial and you come to a point where you have to choose from their list of descriptions of "how" the commercial was offensive. The closest fit I could find was "obscene". And yes, she was definitely "towing the party line", wasn't she? As I said earlier, that's what bothered me most about the response. First, she took my basic and paraphrased complaint to the TV station as the limit of my knowledge and understanding of the subject and proceeded to "school me" with a bureaucratic and condescending "bullet point" diatribe. If I had known in advance that my complaint would be forwarded to them, I would have presented it in the same fashion as I do in my articles with bullet points and references of my own. It also bothered me that she pointedly remarked, "40. Health claims Prohibit manufacturers and third parties from making health claims for ENDS, including that ENDS are smoking cessation aids," I am not a "third party". I am not representing myself as a spokesperson for any organization. I am not a wholesaler, retailer or manufacturer of any devices or liquids, nor am I a spokesperson of any such business. I am a natural born citizen of the United States and as such, protected under the first amendment. (they try to diminish you any and every way possible) Then she closed with, "Please contact me if I can provide additional information" (Don't you mean rhetoric and propaganda???). The whole thing was just so "Holier than thou". She seems to be an intelligent person but apparently lacks the ability to have an open mind. The good that came out of it was that I realized this is the root of the problem. Their side is so dug in that they refuse to even attempt to find some common ground. To be thankful that vaping is AT LEAST 95% safer than tobacco smoking and that smoking rates HAVE fallen to their lowest level in 50 years, thanks to vaping. I can't for the life of me understand why they can't see the correlation. Again, when will enough be enough? I'm torn between responding and ignoring her/them. As I said, I doubt any ground would be gained but at the same time, when the FTC does finally contact her, I'm certain she will respond to them with, "I have contacted Mr. *** and put him in his place. He never responded back (tee-he-he)."
What say you all?
I'm sure my next article will focus on these issues. I may even include the FTC's and local organization's email address so if anyone else feels compelled to complain they can. By the way, that number is........
https://www.ftc.gov/
Submit a Consumer Complaint to the FTC | Federal Trade Commission
Telephone: (202) 326-2222
I hate to get political, especially after this extremely contentious election but Trump does claim to be the change and de-regulation candidate. Pence doesn't inspire much confidence after allowing what happened in Ind. to happen. Trump did say he thinks the other stuff should be legal, at least for medical purposes. Let's see if he's as serious about saving the lives/improving the health of cigarette smokers. You are correct, only legislation will change things now. Continuing to be a burr under state and local organizations and broadcasters doesn't hurt either. Make them earn their livings and let them know vapers aren't just going to lie down and take it. I respectfully ask everyone to please continue to contact your local, state and federal representatives. Also write Sen. Ron Johnson of Wis. another letter of support and encouragement. He got re-elected when most didn't think he would and I suspect, in part, it was the support of vapers that did it.
Vapers Unite
Von Vape
Yes, I concur e.m. The nicotine in vegies is a bit of a stretch and I already knew that going in. My point was that it IS in there, not how much and as suspected "they" took the bait and blew the whole thing out of proportion. I find it ironic that half truths from our side are hyperbole but are perfectly acceptable from their side . HAR!!! That being said, in all honesty, where will "they" draw the line? You may have seen the FDA touting the "new" GMO potato that is nearly impervious to potato famine blithe, for having "considerably lower levels of nicotine than organic potatoes". Never mind "their" concern over salt, sugar and fat levels in the foods we consume or the "junk food & soda taxes" that many states have adopted. Where will it end??? It was also sad that she completely twisted what I was saying in regard to vaping vs. smoking rates, turning it into a "youth" thing and jockeying the numbers to fit her own narrative. The "several recent studies" was rich wasn't it. ~ Recent election results show that people don't like being disregarded, disrespected or dismissed as deplorable & irredeemable either. HAR again!!!
D.O. The FCC got back to me yesterday and stated that it was a matter for the FTC. Thankfully I have already filed a complaint with them too. I suspect it was coincidence that she responded the same afternoon of the morning I filed the FTC compliant. The wheels of government just don't work that fast. It's a bit tricky to navigate FTC's site to complain about a commercial and you come to a point where you have to choose from their list of descriptions of "how" the commercial was offensive. The closest fit I could find was "obscene". And yes, she was definitely "towing the party line", wasn't she? As I said earlier, that's what bothered me most about the response. First, she took my basic and paraphrased complaint to the TV station as the limit of my knowledge and understanding of the subject and proceeded to "school me" with a bureaucratic and condescending "bullet point" diatribe. If I had known in advance that my complaint would be forwarded to them, I would have presented it in the same fashion as I do in my articles with bullet points and references of my own. It also bothered me that she pointedly remarked, "40. Health claims Prohibit manufacturers and third parties from making health claims for ENDS, including that ENDS are smoking cessation aids," I am not a "third party". I am not representing myself as a spokesperson for any organization. I am not a wholesaler, retailer or manufacturer of any devices or liquids, nor am I a spokesperson of any such business. I am a natural born citizen of the United States and as such, protected under the first amendment. (they try to diminish you any and every way possible) Then she closed with, "Please contact me if I can provide additional information" (Don't you mean rhetoric and propaganda???). The whole thing was just so "Holier than thou". She seems to be an intelligent person but apparently lacks the ability to have an open mind. The good that came out of it was that I realized this is the root of the problem. Their side is so dug in that they refuse to even attempt to find some common ground. To be thankful that vaping is AT LEAST 95% safer than tobacco smoking and that smoking rates HAVE fallen to their lowest level in 50 years, thanks to vaping. I can't for the life of me understand why they can't see the correlation. Again, when will enough be enough? I'm torn between responding and ignoring her/them. As I said, I doubt any ground would be gained but at the same time, when the FTC does finally contact her, I'm certain she will respond to them with, "I have contacted Mr. *** and put him in his place. He never responded back (tee-he-he)."
What say you all?
I'm sure my next article will focus on these issues. I may even include the FTC's and local organization's email address so if anyone else feels compelled to complain they can. By the way, that number is........
https://www.ftc.gov/
Submit a Consumer Complaint to the FTC | Federal Trade Commission
Telephone: (202) 326-2222
I hate to get political, especially after this extremely contentious election but Trump does claim to be the change and de-regulation candidate. Pence doesn't inspire much confidence after allowing what happened in Ind. to happen. Trump did say he thinks the other stuff should be legal, at least for medical purposes. Let's see if he's as serious about saving the lives/improving the health of cigarette smokers. You are correct, only legislation will change things now. Continuing to be a burr under state and local organizations and broadcasters doesn't hurt either. Make them earn their livings and let them know vapers aren't just going to lie down and take it. I respectfully ask everyone to please continue to contact your local, state and federal representatives. Also write Sen. Ron Johnson of Wis. another letter of support and encouragement. He got re-elected when most didn't think he would and I suspect, in part, it was the support of vapers that did it.
Vapers Unite
Von Vape
Maybe, then, a reply to her is in the cards, so she can't do that...
With reference to the the Brit's research, and maybe also to Dr. Farsalino's research.
Yeah, no research in the US, as she says. Then again, in our present situation, facts don't matter, anyway...
I think they just spout what theycve been told via some brochure. Just too lazy to verify if itcs true or not. Plus, they'd be biting the hands that feed them. Good job VV! Donct give her the excuse of saying she never heard back from you.Thank you for your support @englishmick and @DavidOck .
Yes, I concur e.m. The nicotine in vegies is a bit of a stretch and I already knew that going in. My point was that it IS in there, not how much and as suspected "they" took the bait and blew the whole thing out of proportion. I find it ironic that half truths from our side are hyperbole but are perfectly acceptable from their side . HAR!!! That being said, in all honesty, where will "they" draw the line? You may have seen the FDA touting the "new" GMO potato that is nearly impervious to potato famine blithe, for having "considerably lower levels of nicotine than organic potatoes". Never mind "their" concern over salt, sugar and fat levels in the foods we consume or the "junk food & soda taxes" that many states have adopted. Where will it end??? It was also sad that she completely twisted what I was saying in regard to vaping vs. smoking rates, turning it into a "youth" thing and jockeying the numbers to fit her own narrative. The "several recent studies" was rich wasn't it. ~ Recent election results show that people don't like being disregarded, disrespected or dismissed as deplorable & irredeemable either. HAR again!!!
D.O. The FCC got back to me yesterday and stated that it was a matter for the FTC. Thankfully I have already filed a complaint with them too. I suspect it was coincidence that she responded the same afternoon of the morning I filed the FTC compliant. The wheels of government just don't work that fast. It's a bit tricky to navigate FTC's site to complain about a commercial and you come to a point where you have to choose from their list of descriptions of "how" the commercial was offensive. The closest fit I could find was "obscene". And yes, she was definitely "towing the party line", wasn't she? As I said earlier, that's what bothered me most about the response. First, she took my basic and paraphrased complaint to the TV station as the limit of my knowledge and understanding of the subject and proceeded to "school me" with a bureaucratic and condescending "bullet point" diatribe. If I had known in advance that my complaint would be forwarded to them, I would have presented it in the same fashion as I do in my articles with bullet points and references of my own. It also bothered me that she pointedly remarked, "40. Health claims Prohibit manufacturers and third parties from making health claims for ENDS, including that ENDS are smoking cessation aids," I am not a "third party". I am not representing myself as a spokesperson for any organization. I am not a wholesaler, retailer or manufacturer of any devices or liquids, nor am I a spokesperson of any such business. I am a natural born citizen of the United States and as such, protected under the first amendment. (they try to diminish you any and every way possible) Then she closed with, "Please contact me if I can provide additional information" (Don't you mean rhetoric and propaganda???). The whole thing was just so "Holier than thou". She seems to be an intelligent person but apparently lacks the ability to have an open mind. The good that came out of it was that I realized this is the root of the problem. Their side is so dug in that they refuse to even attempt to find some common ground. To be thankful that vaping is AT LEAST 95% safer than tobacco smoking and that smoking rates HAVE fallen to their lowest level in 50 years, thanks to vaping. I can't for the life of me understand why they can't see the correlation. Again, when will enough be enough? I'm torn between responding and ignoring her/them. As I said, I doubt any ground would be gained but at the same time, when the FTC does finally contact her, I'm certain she will respond to them with, "I have contacted Mr. *** and put him in his place. He never responded back (tee-he-he)."
What say you all?
I'm sure my next article will focus on these issues. I may even include the FTC's and local organization's email address so if anyone else feels compelled to complain they can. By the way, that number is........
https://www.ftc.gov/
Submit a Consumer Complaint to the FTC | Federal Trade Commission
Telephone: (202) 326-2222
I hate to get political, especially after this extremely contentious election but Trump does claim to be the change and de-regulation candidate. Pence doesn't inspire much confidence after allowing what happened in Ind. to happen. Trump did say he thinks the other stuff should be legal, at least for medical purposes. Let's see if he's as serious about saving the lives/improving the health of cigarette smokers. You are correct, only legislation will change things now. Continuing to be a burr under state and local organizations and broadcasters doesn't hurt either. Make them earn their livings and let them know vapers aren't just going to lie down and take it. I respectfully ask everyone to please continue to contact your local, state and federal representatives. Also write Sen. Ron Johnson of Wis. another letter of support and encouragement. He got re-elected when most didn't think he would and I suspect, in part, it was the support of vapers that did it.
Vapers Unite
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Okay, @DavidOck and @Kenna. I'm on it! Gonna do some research on my own right now and put something together over the weekend. I's love to lash out and be just as smarmy to her as she was to me but what's that famous quote? "When they go low..... " ..... Oh, TOO MUCH!!! Ha, Ha!!!
Thanks!
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Thanks!
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Beat her about the brain pan with the truthdOkay, @DavidOck and @Kenna. I'm on it! Gonna do some research on my own right now and put something together over the weekend. I's love to lash out and be just as smarmy to her as she was to me but what's that famous quote? "When they go low..... " ..... Oh, TOO MUCH!!! Ha, Ha!!!
Thanks!
Vapers Unite!
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MAN! Gotta LOVE Google and the interweb!
In just over two hours I have managed to plagiarize (copy and past from Crescent City Vapes pages alone) enough Myth vs Fact info to gag an elephant. Add the 3 or 4 charts from images and I assure you Ms. Cheri Hample will have to be peeled off of the ceiling!
Here is a small taste of the flavors she'll be smellin':
My comment here will be; Anyone with an open mind can see the correlation between the decline in tobacco use and the increase in vapor product use. It also shows you should be very proud of the 11% youth smoking rate here in Alaska. It's 7.8% below the national average and 7% below the 2020 goal already! (Too smarmy?)
The bottom chart is from the CDC, no kidding!
Here are just a few "fun facts" I'll serve up:
Myth: Vapor released into the environment from e-cigarettes is as harmful to bystanders as secondhand smoke.
Fact: While secondhand vapor does exist, the levels of carcinogens and nicotine exposure are far below those of secondhand smoke, and secondhand vapor does not contain carbon monoxide, a significant toxic substance found in secondhand smoke. According to this study, air quality after e-cigarette use is much less toxic than after tobacco cigarette use.
Myth: E-cigarettes encourage children and nonsmokers to try real cigarettes.
Fact: While e-cigarette use is now higher among high school students than in the past, this growth corresponds to overall growth of e-cigarette use across the entire population. There is currently no data that suggests trying e-cigarettes leads minors to smoking traditional cigarettes. In fact, teenage smoking rates of traditional cigarettes have dropped dramatically, from 11 percent in 2009 to 6.7 percent in 2014. A study published in the American Journal of Preventative Medicine, suggests there is very little chance that a nonsmoker who tries an e-cigarette will develop a tobacco smoking habit.
E-cigarettes are intended for adult smokers only, and in all states, minors are not legally allowed to purchase these products.
Myth: Fruity or sweet flavors are not appealing to adult smokers, but rather are meant to attract kids.
Fact: While several lawmakers have urged the FDA to further regulate e-cigarettes, and ban marketing that they say draws children into using e-cigarettes, there is no statistical or scientific evidence to back their claims that e-cigarette marketing is designed to appeal to children. In fact, flavors sell for a reason: They appeal to adult vapers. Three quarters of adults buying e-liquid prefer flavored e-liquid for their e-cigarettes. Even vapers who start by using tobacco-flavored e-liquid often transition to different flavors as they begin to lose their taste for tobacco altogether.
There are 9 Myth vs Fact in total. This one even comes with a nifty little chart of it's own!
Myth: Vapor released into the environment from e-cigarettes is as harmful to bystanders as secondhand smoke.
Fact: While secondhand vapor does exist, the levels of carcinogens and nicotine exposure are far below those of secondhand smoke, and secondhand vapor does not contain carbon monoxide, a significant toxic substance found in secondhand smoke. According to this study, air quality after e-cigarette use is much less toxic than after tobacco cigarette use.
I'll also be adding a recommendation to read the FULL RCP report which I have, downloaded, and will send along as a PDF file. To save her some time (after all I am paying a portion of her salary
) I'll also add a few pertinent quotes and cite page and paragraph. I have a couple more charts too. bureaucrats love charts and graphs, don't they??? Oh, don't let me forget the bullet points!
Of course if she does reply, it will only be to tell me the internet is FULL of erroneous information. To which I will reply, "YES! I KNOW! GOOD DAY MADAME!" (At that point I do believe we can let the scraping begin! )
I sure have missed you guys! It's GREAT to be back, I feel so alive! Thanks again for your support.
Vapers Unite!
Von Vape
In just over two hours I have managed to plagiarize (copy and past from Crescent City Vapes pages alone) enough Myth vs Fact info to gag an elephant. Add the 3 or 4 charts from images and I assure you Ms. Cheri Hample will have to be peeled off of the ceiling!
Here is a small taste of the flavors she'll be smellin':
My comment here will be; Anyone with an open mind can see the correlation between the decline in tobacco use and the increase in vapor product use. It also shows you should be very proud of the 11% youth smoking rate here in Alaska. It's 7.8% below the national average and 7% below the 2020 goal already! (Too smarmy?)
The bottom chart is from the CDC, no kidding!
Here are just a few "fun facts" I'll serve up:
Myth: Vapor released into the environment from e-cigarettes is as harmful to bystanders as secondhand smoke.
Fact: While secondhand vapor does exist, the levels of carcinogens and nicotine exposure are far below those of secondhand smoke, and secondhand vapor does not contain carbon monoxide, a significant toxic substance found in secondhand smoke. According to this study, air quality after e-cigarette use is much less toxic than after tobacco cigarette use.
Myth: E-cigarettes encourage children and nonsmokers to try real cigarettes.
Fact: While e-cigarette use is now higher among high school students than in the past, this growth corresponds to overall growth of e-cigarette use across the entire population. There is currently no data that suggests trying e-cigarettes leads minors to smoking traditional cigarettes. In fact, teenage smoking rates of traditional cigarettes have dropped dramatically, from 11 percent in 2009 to 6.7 percent in 2014. A study published in the American Journal of Preventative Medicine, suggests there is very little chance that a nonsmoker who tries an e-cigarette will develop a tobacco smoking habit.
E-cigarettes are intended for adult smokers only, and in all states, minors are not legally allowed to purchase these products.
Myth: Fruity or sweet flavors are not appealing to adult smokers, but rather are meant to attract kids.
Fact: While several lawmakers have urged the FDA to further regulate e-cigarettes, and ban marketing that they say draws children into using e-cigarettes, there is no statistical or scientific evidence to back their claims that e-cigarette marketing is designed to appeal to children. In fact, flavors sell for a reason: They appeal to adult vapers. Three quarters of adults buying e-liquid prefer flavored e-liquid for their e-cigarettes. Even vapers who start by using tobacco-flavored e-liquid often transition to different flavors as they begin to lose their taste for tobacco altogether.
There are 9 Myth vs Fact in total. This one even comes with a nifty little chart of it's own!
Myth: Vapor released into the environment from e-cigarettes is as harmful to bystanders as secondhand smoke.
Fact: While secondhand vapor does exist, the levels of carcinogens and nicotine exposure are far below those of secondhand smoke, and secondhand vapor does not contain carbon monoxide, a significant toxic substance found in secondhand smoke. According to this study, air quality after e-cigarette use is much less toxic than after tobacco cigarette use.
I'll also be adding a recommendation to read the FULL RCP report which I have, downloaded, and will send along as a PDF file. To save her some time (after all I am paying a portion of her salary
) I'll also add a few pertinent quotes and cite page and paragraph. I have a couple more charts too. bureaucrats love charts and graphs, don't they??? Oh, don't let me forget the bullet points! Of course if she does reply, it will only be to tell me the internet is FULL of erroneous information. To which I will reply, "YES! I KNOW! GOOD DAY MADAME!" (At that point I do believe we can let the scraping begin!
)I sure have missed you guys! It's GREAT to be back, I feel so alive! Thanks again for your support.
Vapers Unite!
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