Whats your favorite Regulated device of ALL TIME?

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In that spirit I will make you go look for them.

Ummm...... that's NOT AT ALL how it works on the ECF. And somehow you don't know that? Funny.

If you make claims, as you did, the onus is 100% on you to backup your claims with reliable, factual sources and links - - - not your opinions or secondhand information.

You have yet to do that. So......... I'll wait, seems to me you have a lot of sources to gather and post.

Look back in the thread - - - you will see I backed up everything with reputable sources.
 
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I don't know where you dug that up from, or more importantly what it has to do with anything, but it's not at all accurate. In fact it is 100% inaccurate. LOLz

Big tobacco doesn't own any of the 5 largest marijuana companies in the world. I just looked up each ones owners and largest shareholders.


And I don't see where big tobacco owns the remaining 21 biggest marijuana companies.


Google search: who owns the cannabis farms in the us - - - that does not show big tobacco owning any.

What Big Tobacco and Pharma have done is invested in a few cannabis companies.


That is a Far Cry from your claim that "they own most of the cannabis farms in the US".

If you are going to make such claims then back them up with reputable and factual sourced data and links. I mean, come on, how hard is that to do? It isn't.

Each of the links I provided you with contain reliable, trustworthy and factual data. All are properly sourced. None are from whacked out sources like QAnon or the far-right who have clearly demonstrated they spread nothing but lies and misinformation. None of their news (FOX, NewsMax, OANN and their ilk) is trustworthy. But ~30% of brainwashed Americans believe and fill their imbecilic brains with their utter nonsense.


ETA: One more source for you........

I said the US, not the world.
 

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Ummm...... that's NOT AT ALL how it works on the ECF. And somehow you don't know that? Funny.

If you make claims, as you did, the onus is 100% on you to backup your claims with reliable, factual sources and links - - - not your opinions or secondhand information.

You have yet to do that. So......... I'll wait, seems to me you have a lot of sources to gather and post.

Look back in the thread - - - you will see I backed up everything with reputable sources.
Yes. Yes it is. All the stuff I was talking about is already ON ecf. They keep everything here. It’s not my fault you’re too dumb to understand phrases like “regulated only”. I don’t hop to your tune no matter how much you clearly would like people to.
 
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Yes. Yes it is. All the stuff I was talking about is already ON ecf. They keep everything here. It’s not my fault you’re too dumb to understand phrases like “regulated only”. I don’t hop to your tune no matter how much you clearly would like people to.

Clearly you are very frustrated. That was an impotent and imbecilic post.

And NO, that is not how it works on ECF. You make a claim, it's on you to back it up.

Perhaps you need an ECF Forum Rules refresher?

9. Personal attacks
You can disagree with the subject matter of a post, but never personally attack the poster - Attack the post, not the poster. Treat people as you would like to be treated yourself: with courtesy.

My replies to you have been courteous. I've asked you to backup your baseless claims. You refuse to do so, so now you resort to a feeble personal attack.

Grow up and try harder!!!
 

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Clearly you are very frustrated. That was an impotent and imbecilic post.

And NO, that is not how it works on ECF. You make a claim, it's on you to back it up.

Perhaps you need an ECF Forum Rules refresher?

9. Personal attacks
You can disagree with the subject matter of a post, but never personally attack the poster - Attack the post, not the poster. Treat people as you would like to be treated yourself: with courtesy.

My replies to you have been courteous. I've asked you to backup your baseless claims. You refuse to do so, so now you resort to a feeble personal attack.

Grow up and try harder!!!
You try to define a lot of stuff don’t you? I did make a mistake. I cared what you thought in the first place. Go back and read the OP again. You clearly need to
 
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Yes. Yes it is. All the stuff I was talking about is already ON ecf. They keep everything here. It’s not my fault you’re too dumb to understand phrases like “regulated only”. I don’t hop to your tune no matter how much you clearly would like people to. As for the number 9 thing you started it. I merely finished it. My tolerance for BS is perhaps a bit too low. This is an old argument. One mech molders lost ignomiously many years ago. It’s all documented in the site archives.
 
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They’re not bad they’re just no longer the best

That's your opinion. Which you are entitled to. It is however not the absolute.

they wind up being pretty expensive in the long run

Another baseless claim of yours. And it's completely unfounded.

Back you claims up with actual facts.

It's very apparent you won't, because you can't.
 

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@bombastinator2 you posted:

As for the number 9 thing you started it. I merely finished it.

I asked you to backup several claims you made. If you think that's "starting" something, you are seriously mistaken.

Look, you have had many opportunities today to backup your claims. Thus far, you've refused to do so. That simply means your claims remain baseless and unfounded.

Okay then, fine. Finito.

Enjoy your evening. :thumbs:
 

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You started it by posting about mech mods in a post that said they didn’t want that IN THE TITLE. The thing that got my goat was the whining about false persecution. I see that a lot in US politics. Musk does it all the time “they all started hating me when I turned Republican…” No. the cops started to take an interest when all those people around that factory started dying of COVID. Bill Gates is a Republican and he doesn’t have the same problem. People EXPECT billionaires to become republicans. Th GOP gives personalized service to the few that can pay for it. Of couursse he became a Republican. He can pay for it. That wasn’t the reason. The reason is he may have contributed to the deaths of 160 people. No one can prove that, but if he’s a true douche bag he’ll do it again. So he gets watched. Same as anyone else.
 

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Never had a problem with a mech, but before I got one I had been on ECF long enough to understand the tech and know how to use them safely. And there are always folks who want to push them to the limits, and a little bit further. Or don't even know about those limits.

There must have been a lot of new vapers who went in a vape shop and saw those beautiful shiny copper engraved tubes and grabbed one without any idea that they were a different type of gadget to their old Egos. And how many of them got the lecture from the bored kid behind the counter?

It's the same for folks who fly radio controlled planes, except they don't hold their toys in their mouths or put them in their pockets. Liion batteries should never be used without understanding their potential to explode. I had no idea about that when I started vaping.
 

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I had one of those old batteries melt in my pocket once. It’s not very common. You more or less have to screw up and then get unlucky. Everybody eventually screws up, and I don’t trust luck.

It’s a bit like roofing. It’s not whether you fall off a roof. It’s when and how far and how many times. Me I don’t go up on my roof. (Though I’ve done it once or twice long ago)
I watched a welding video recently about the 5 most common ways to be killed welding. It illustrates the point quite well if you feel like looking it up. The narrator’s come-to-Jesus moment with welding was a lot like mine with roofing. I haven’t been on my roof since.
 
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I had one of those old batteries melt in my pocket once. It’s not very common. You more or less have to screw up and then get unlucky. Everybody eventually screws up, and I don’t trust luck. If those old batteries still existed (I understand the factory burned down) I might still be using a mech. But they don’t so I don’t.
 
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Re: the radio contrpolled plane thing: radio controlled planes generally use LiPO bag batteries which are quite energy dense and cheap. They’re also an older chemistry, and one of the more dangerous ones. You are correct in that none of them are 100% safe anymore though. Haven’t seen a safe lithium battery in many years. I worry about all those wireless earbud things. They by definition have LiPo bag batteries in them which means innhowever many years (be it 2 or 100 they will all become little antipersonel land mines. They NEED to be recycled. ALL of them. People drop em in stream beds or dogs eat them or whatnot though. The world is going to become a more dangerous place.
 
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    I clearly didn't make enough popcorn.

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    Been using a mech mod for 13 years, (Mako Midi) and have never had a problem of any kind. If I was to dig down to the bottom of my zomby box, I would probably find a bunch of Trustfire 14500 batteries.
    Even became friends with Trog back then, and learned about how to use a mech mod safely.
    The mech mod that I'm using now (Caravela) was delivered in November of 2012, and it STILL works perfectly.
    So it's cost/day is now down to pennies.

    The only regulated mod I use anymore is a ProVari mini 2.0, and I get along just fine with it's 2.5 amp limiter. BTW that might be a reason why I've never had a problem with a mech mod. A 2 amp load is much safer than a 20 amp load. AND, a 2.0 ohm coil is safer than a 0.2 ohm coil.
     
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    I've been sitting on a few iGo-Ls that have been here forever. Still in boxes, even! Now I know what to do with them!!! :greengrin:

    I can't bring myself to throw vapestuffs away. I just can't do it. We are vapers.

    And here you two had me getting excited to send my one lonely iGo. Party poopers, the boff of ya.
     

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    Been using a mech mod for 13 years, (Mako Midi) and have never had a problem of any kind. If I was to dig down to the bottom of my zomby box, I would probably find a bunch of Trustfire 14500 batteries.
    Even became friends with Trog back then, and learned about how to use a mech mod safely.
    The mech mod that I'm using now (Caravela) was delivered in November of 2012, and it STILL works perfectly.
    So it's cost/day is now down to pennies.

    The only regulated mod I use anymore is a ProVari mini 2.0, and I get along just fine with it's 2.5 amp limiter. BTW that might be a reason why I've never had a problem with a mech mod. A 2 amp load is much safer than a 20 amp load. AND, a 2.0 ohm coil is safer than a 0.2 ohm coil.
    This would imply you’ve never screwed up and been unlucky at the same time then. Still not a mech thread. I never had any 14500s o started on what I think was an RN232 or something like that. RN for sure, I don’t remember the other numbers. It was one of the early cigalikes. I was still trying to get cigalike batteries to work back then. First batteries I bought were I think 123s. Which were those red ones I mentioned on which the battery that popped on me. It was in my front pocket. If it was a modern 18650 it would have cut the tendon that connects my front leg muscle to my pelvis and I wouldn’t be able to walk. It could have cut (it’s not the femoral artery, it’s another “al” artery that supplies your leg with blood) and I would have bled out and died. It wasn’t though. It was one of those batteries that turned to hot black goo instead of exploding and I was merely
    sad and out a battery. Mod even lived. pants were dead of course. They became paint rags. I bought a regulated mod after that. The mech mod rotted away eventually (why is it that only Chinese metal rots? My current is doing that too. I NEVER saw that before I started vaping. It’s recent too. I’ve got stuff from “white” China in the 20’s and that stuff didn’t do it) I saw one years later at a vape stor with a warning never to use such things. Notice I said screwed up AND been unlucky. Everyone screws up occasionally. Some more than others, which means screwups must be minimized, which means you have to treat the thing more or less like a gun. I don’t want to own a gun. Seems like a pain. I got enough stuff I have to do that with like welding torches. Guns are even more permanent though. Welding torches mostly just maim, though it is also possible, even easy,to kill yourself with them. My favorite is use carb cleaner to clean your parts. That’s one way to instadeath with a welder. Welders only sometimes produce poisonous gas. Always wear a respirator anyway.
     
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