Whats your favorite Regulated device of ALL TIME?

[bombastinator]

That's your opinion. Which you are entitled to. It is however not the absolute.



Another baseless claim of yours. And it's completely unfounded.

Back you claims up with actual facts.

It's very apparent you won't, because you can't.

This was merely what I found. Egos cost more than batteries and last less long. This is why mech mods of the type that were pictured were preferable. They didn’t seem much safer though if you took them apart. They were basically a really cheap mech mod with a non-removable battery. “Another baseless claim” requires that there is a first baseless one before. Seeing as there were none (you didn’t do your homework either it seems or you would have found them. Looks like we are both old enough to have seen “paper chase” on TV. I also did LD debate back in high school so many of the other old Rusch Limbaugh tricks are also wasted on me. All he ever said was “state your source” anyway) you’re also a liar. As for the ego thing it was my experience buying them. Take that as you will. I didn’t read about it I experienced it as such there is no article that I read on the subject.

 

[bombastinator]

This was merely what I found. Egos cost more than batteries and last less long. This is why mech mods of the type that were pictured were preferable. They didn’t seem much safer though if you took them apart. They were basically a really cheap mech mod with a non-removable battery. “Another baseless claim” requires that there is a first baseless one before. Seeing as there were none (you didn’t do your homework either it seems or you would have found them. Looks like we are both old enough to have seen “paper chase” on TV. I also did LD debate back in high school so many of the other old Rusch Limbaugh tricks are also wasted on me. All he ever said was “state your source” anyway) you’re also a liar. As for the ego thing it was my experience buying them. Take that as you will. I didn’t read about it I experienced it as such there is no article that I read on the subject.

Seems the subject matter of the reply has changed so the reply is no longer relevant. The ego thing is not an opinion. I did the math and that’s how it came out. Also I actually took the thing apart. (I used to take basically everything apart back then) If you find some egos on clearance so they’re cheaper than regular batteries they’re worth buying. But at regular price where they cost nearly double what a battery does they aren’t. One more thing who’s time has come and gone. Still better than pods. Pods are insane price wise. So are cartridge tanks for that matter. I have found The whole “lasts a week” thing is strictly speaking hogwash. It varies a lot by juice, and a week is on the uppper end. If one is Vaping something really gunky like a fruit flavor it’s more like every day or two. Partial truths are not truths.

 

[bombastinator]

Seems the subject matter of the reply has changed so the reply is no longer relevant. The ego thing is not an opinion. I did the math and that’s how it came out. Also I actually took the thing apart. (I used to take basically everything apart back then) If you find some egos on clearance so they’re cheaper than regular batteries they’re worth buying. But at regular price where they cost nearly double what a battery does they aren’t. One more thing who’s time has come and gone. Still better than pods. Pods are insane price wise. So are cartridge tanks for that matter. The whole “lasts a week” thing is hogwash. It varies a lot by juice, and a week is on the uppper end. If one is Vaping something really gunky like a fruit flavor it’s more like every day or two.

 

[tj99959]

This would imply you’ve never screwed up and been unlucky at the same time then. Still not a mech thread. I never had any 14500s o started on what I think was an RN232 or something like that. RN for sure, I don’t remember the other numbers. It was one of the early cigalikes. I was still trying to get cigalike batteries to work back then. First batteries I bought were I think 123s. Which were those red ones I mentioned on which the battery that popped on me. It was in my front pocket. If it was a modern 18650 it would have cut the tendon that connects my front leg muscle to my pelvis and I wouldn’t be able to walk. It could have cut (it’s not the femoral artery, it’s another “al” artery that supplies your leg with blood) and I would have bled out and died. It wasn’t though. It was one of those batteries that turned to hot black goo instead of exploding and I was merely
sad and out a battery. Mod even lived. pants were dead of course. They became paint rags. I bought a regulated mod after that. The mech mod rotted away eventually (why is it that only Chinese metal rots? My current is doing that too. I NEVER saw that before I started vaping. It’s recent too. I’ve got stuff from “white” China in the 20’s and that stuff didn’t do it) I saw one years later at a vape stor with a warning never to use such things. Notice I said screwed up AND been unlucky. Everyone screws up occasionally. Some more than others, which means screwups must be minimized, which means you have to treat the thing more or less like a gun. I don’t want to own a gun. Seems like a pain. I got enough stuff I have to do that with like welding torches. Guns are even more permanent though. Welding torches mostly just maim, though it is also possible, even easy,to kill yourself with them. My favorite is use carb cleaner to clean your parts. That’s one way to instadeath with a welder. Welders only sometimes produce poisonous gas. Always wear a respirator anyway.

I was going to respond, but then I thought ... Naaa ... maybe not. Why would I dumb down to this level.

But:
Don't ever think that a 123 battery is safe, just because it's little.

 

[DPLongo22]

This would imply you’ve never screwed up and been unlucky at the same time then. Still not a mech thread. I never had any 14500s o started on what I think was an RN232 or something like that. RN for sure, I don’t remember the other numbers. It was one of the early cigalikes. I was still trying to get cigalike batteries to work back then. First batteries I bought were I think 123s. Which were those red ones I mentioned on which the battery that popped on me. It was in my front pocket. If it was a modern 18650 it would have cut the tendon that connects my front leg muscle to my pelvis and I wouldn’t be able to walk. It could have cut (it’s not the femoral artery, it’s another “al” artery that supplies your leg with blood) and I would have bled out and died. It wasn’t though. It was one of those batteries that turned to hot black goo instead of exploding and I was merely
sad and out a battery. Mod even lived. pants were dead of course. They became paint rags. I bought a regulated mod after that. The mech mod rotted away eventually (why is it that only Chinese metal rots? My current is doing that too. I NEVER saw that before I started vaping. It’s recent too. I’ve got stuff from “white” China in the 20’s and that stuff didn’t do it) I saw one years later at a vape stor with a warning never to use such things. Notice I said screwed up AND been unlucky. Everyone screws up occasionally. Some more than others, which means screwups must be minimized, which means you have to treat the thing more or less like a gun. I don’t want to own a gun. Seems like a pain. I got enough stuff I have to do that with like welding torches. Guns are even more permanent though. Welding torches mostly just maim, though it is also possible, even easy,to kill yourself with them. My favorite is use carb cleaner to clean your parts. That’s one way to instadeath with a welder. Welders only sometimes produce poisonous gas. Always wear a respirator anyway.

If I can say one thing with absolute confidence and conviction, it's that @tj99959 (a) won't screw up, and (b) luck has absolutely nothing to do with his success in this area.

I prefer regulated mods too, but if I were ever to look for help/info with a mech, TJ would be one of the first people I reached out to.

On a separate and somewhat unrelated note, I'm thoroughly enjoying @Daniel Forsyth laughing at each post.

 

[ShowMeTwice]

What is wrong with you? Never mind, it is very obvious. VERY.

I see the content of your imbecilic posts has degraded to the point of total nonsense. I am not surprised. At all.

Still not a mech thread.

No one asked you.

Furthermore, you've been around long enough to have learned that threads can, and do, go in many different directions. You really should learn to evolve with them.

“Another baseless claim” requires that there is a first baseless one before.

You have made multiple baseless claims in this thread from the get-go. Funny thing, you still are unable to backup any of your ridiculous claims.

I also did LD debate back in high school

That's hilarious!!! Based on your many ineffectual posts in this thread I'm thinking you lost most if not all of your debates.

Your recent posts are nothing more than silly ramblings. They're all over the place, they lack a clear sense of direction. Impotent even.

Stringing comprehensible sentences together isn't very difficult. Try harder.

no longer relevant

I will remind you of something that is relevant. The FACT that you were the ONLY PERSON who completely FAILED to understand that my initial post in this thread was humorous in nature, speaks IMMENSE volumes about your inability to comprehend forum posts.

If one is Vaping something really gunky like a fruit flavor it’s more like every day or two.

An idiotic opinion. And yet another one of your dumb claims. If you had any actual experience with fruit flavors you would not have made such a stupid statement.

No doubt, you will continue to ramble on, and on, and on........ you do that well. Congratulations, you've found your niche on the ECF!!!

 

[tj99959]

(blush)

 

[bombastinator]

What is wrong with you? Never mind, it is very obvious. VERY.

I see the content of your imbecilic posts has degraded to the point of total nonsense. I am not surprised. At all.



No one asked you.

Furthermore, you've been around long enough to have learned that threads can, and do, go in many different directions. You really should learn to evolve with them.



You have made multiple baseless claims in this thread from the get-go. Funny thing, you still are unable to backup any of your ridiculous claims.



That's hilarious!!! Based on your many ineffectual posts in this thread I'm thinking you lost most if not all of your debates.

Your recent posts are nothing more than silly ramblings. They're all over the place, they lack a clear sense of direction. Impotent even.

Stringing comprehensible sentences together isn't very difficult. Try harder.



I will remind you of something that is relevant. The FACT that you were the ONLY PERSON who completely FAILED to understand that my initial post in this thread was humorous in nature, speaks IMMENSE volumes about your inability to comprehend forum posts.



An idiotic opinion. And yet another one of your dumb claims. If you had any actual experience with fruit flavors you would not have made such a stupid statement.

No doubt, you will continue to ramble on, and on, and on........ you do that well. Congratulations, you've found your niche on the ECF!!!

I was going to respond, but then I thought ... Naaa ... maybe not. Why would I dumb down to this level.

But:
Don't ever think that a 123 battery is safe, just because it's little.

Hmm.. you feel the comment is dumb? How so? Or are you just attempting to be insulting? You make several allusions. What is wrong with me? I’ve vaped for a really long time for an American, I understand causality, i am familiar with things like false syllogisms and how to point out they are false, and I am easily annoyed by unsolicited false claims employing said false syllogisms. I hold out the possibility that I might be missing something. That is always possible. As set though it has a very huffy sour grapes feel. The problem today seems to be that so many people have a “anything that doesn’t agree with me is dumb” this kind of sounds like that. It might not BE that and merely sounds like it, but as set it does you no favors. I therefore take this as an admission that my statement, though true, annoyed you mightily.

 

[bombastinator]

Hmm.. you feel the comment is dumb? How so? Or are you just attempting to be insulting? I hold out the possibility that I might be missing something. That is always possible. As set though it has a very huffy sour grapes feel. The problem today seems to be that so many people have a “anything that doesn’t agree with me is dumb” this kind of sounds like that. It might not BE that and merely sounds like it, but as set it does you no favors.

Interesting that you make no points to back up your rather serious claims. Perhaps you are just making random claims? The term Rusch Limbaugh used to use is “babble”. It usually meant he had no actual rebuttal and was trying to be distracting.

 

[bombastinator]

If I can say one thing with absolute confidence and conviction, it's that @tj99959 (a) won't screw up, and (b) luck has absolutely nothing to do with his success in this area.

I prefer regulated mods too, but if I were ever to look for help/info with a mech, TJ would be one of the first people I reached out to.

On a separate and somewhat unrelated note, I'm thoroughly enjoying @Daniel Forsyth laughing at each post.

This is possible. All that it takes though is to not pay attention, and no one pays attention all the time. Or almost no one. The people that do are known as hyper aware. There was a detective tv show that very imperfectly touched on it. It was sort of a hollywoodization of the actual mental disability. Some of the side effects I understand were obsessive behavior, paranoia, and schizophrenia. I may have specifics wrong. It’s an old memory. Now I do not pay attention a lot more often than most. It’s often referred to as the “add tax” because it often results in losing money. Autism without add might work though. Or merely treating the thing with great care. I like to be able to put the thing in my pocket though if I’m doing something else.

I was amused. It is possible he is actually laughing. The problem is that marking “laugh” and actually finding it funny are two different things. It struck me as a frantic attempt to denigrate. Especially because it happened a day later and all at once.

 

[bombastinator]

Mispost

 

[bombastinator]

@bombastinator2 you posted:



I asked you to backup several claims you made. If you think that's "starting" something, you are seriously mistaken.

Look, you have had many opportunities today to backup your claims. Thus far, you've refused to do so. That simply means your claims remain baseless and unfounded.

Okay then, fine. Finito.

Enjoy your evening.

How could it possibly have started then? This strikes me as the “it all started when billy hit me back” defense

 

[bombastinator]

Been using a mech mod for 13 years, (Mako Midi) and have never had a problem of any kind. If I was to dig down to the bottom of my zomby box, I would probably find a bunch of Trustfire 14500 batteries.
Even became friends with Trog back then, and learned about how to use a mech mod safely.
The mech mod that I'm using now (Caravela) was delivered in November of 2012, and it STILL works perfectly.
So it's cost/day is now down to pennies.

The only regulated mod I use anymore is a ProVari mini 2.0, and I get along just fine with it's 2.5 amp limiter. BTW that might be a reason why I've never had a problem with a mech mod. A 2 amp load is much safer than a 20 amp load. AND, a 2.0 ohm coil is safer than a 0.2 ohm coil.

If the provari doesn’t have any vent holes it’s still dangerous though. The things can’t have airtight battery containers anymore. I’m too young for provaris myself. They were already out of production when I heard about them. I’ve heard of people drilling holes in provari cases. The only problem with that is they are by definition untested. I don’t know the breakdown of the various provari models.

 

[Daniel Forsyth]

I Actually Do find it funny
Here's a favourite regulated mod of mine, I seem to have lost the chip out of it though

 

[bombastinator]

It seems I was conflating you with @ShowMeTwice who ran a big string of laugh reactions all at once. Every post I made on this account I think. Appologies. I’ve been trying to find the post and change it after I noticed the problem, but was unable to. I haven’t been here in so long that I made a new account and I’m no longer familiar with how the site works. It’s a poor excuse but it is what happened.

 

[tj99959]

If the provari doesn’t have any vent holes it’s still dangerous though. The things can’t have airtight battery containers anymore. I’m too young for provaris myself. They were already out of production when I heard about them. I’ve heard of people drilling holes in provari cases. The only problem with that is they are by definition untested. I don’t know the breakdown of the various provari models.

Just so that you know, the ProVari is vented at both ends of the battery. There is a hole at the bottom, and it would vent through the switch at the top. But, the amp limiter (short protection) kinda takes care of that.
I sure wish you would stop with the foot in mouth problem you seem to be suffering from.

add: You might also like to know that the ProVari (V1) was the first regulated mod to hit the market (December 2010), and that in the 13 years of it's existence, there has never been one to explode.

 

[bombastinator]

Just so that you know, the ProVari is vented at both ends of the battery. There is a hole at the bottom, and it would vent through the switch at the top. But, the amp limiter (short protection) kinda takes care of that.
I sure wish you would stop with the foot in mouth problem you seem to be suffering from.

add: You might also like to know that the ProVari (V1) was the first regulated mod to hit the market (December 2010), and that in the 13 years of it's existence, there has never been one to explode.

The problem with venting is there is functional battery venting and non functional battery venting. And the only way to know if the venting is functional or not is to test it. This is a problem with old mech mods. You’ll notice that all of the mech mods pictured have holes in them. The problem is it is doubtful the mods were tested as they were generally made by extremely small companies. Some of them are probably fine. There no real way to know though. It’s even difficult to tell if you’ve got a “real one” and not a knock off. Mine is a knock off for sure. It was too cheap to be anything else. Even if the original A whatever (I forget the name) was tested the knock off almost certainly wasn’t. Holes in the button on a vape can be functional venting, but they can also be a mere attempt.



Also there is more than one model of provari, though I know little about them. They’re quite old. Mods designed for old style batteries didn’t have venting generally. There wasn’t any reason for it. Also that dude was killed by a provari. Unless it was a different mod. Provari owners tend to have several mods. Seems odd that he would take a different mod out shooting. Or the battery in one in any case which implying if they are vented it’s not functional, at least for that. It might be I suppose in which case the guy had a different mod. It was a long time ago I might be misremembering details. Might do something else. Like allow a battery to be inserted. An air vent hole on a device with tight tolerences would be needed as a battery in a battery compartment is more or less a piston and the air has to escape either past the sides of the battery or through a hole. Just guessing. I’ve only seen pictures of the things and read posts of people talking about them. I don’t know much about em other than they’re a very early lower wattage mtl mod, they are or were quite well made, last a really long time, longer than most regulated mods, are unbelievably expensive, largely because they are effectivly artifacts, and were the first or one of the first regulated devices. That’s about all I know about em.

Very few mods explode. You more or less need a mech without functional venting using a battery it wasn’t originally designed for. Assuming that a given mod was designed by an engineer who did the math and not an ID designer who didn’t even know about the math in the first place. This is the problem with small run mechs. There’s no way to know.

I started vaping in 2008, but didn’t hear about provaris till much later. Even new they were pretty expensive and went up in proce rather than down. I likely wouldn’t have picked one up had I known about them. I’m a cheap ........

 

[bombastinator]

The problem with venting is there is functional battery venting and non functional battery venting. And the only way to know if the venting is functional or not is to test it. This is a problem with old mech mods. You’ll notice that all of the mech mods pictured have holes in them. The problem is it is doubtful the mods were tested as they were generally made by extremely small companies. Some of them are probably fine. There no real way to know though. It’s even difficult to tell if you’ve got a “real one” and not a knock off. Mine is a knock off for sure. It was too cheap to be anything else. Even if the original A whatever (I forget the name) was tested the knock off almost certainly wasn’t. Holes in the button on a vape can be functional venting, but they can also be a mere attempt.



Also there is more than one model of provari, though I know little about them. They’re quite old. Mods designed for old style batteries didn’t have venting generally. There wasn’t any reason for it. Also that dude was killed by a provari. Unless it was a different mod. Provari owners tend to have several mods. Seems odd that he would take a different mod out shooting. Or the battery in one in any case which implying if they are vented it’s not functional, at least for that. It might be I suppose in which case the guy had a different mod. It was a long time ago I might be misremembering details. Might do something else. Like allow a battery to be inserted. An air vent hole on a device with tight tolerences would be needed as a battery in a battery compartment is more or less a piston and the air has to escape either past the sides of the battery or through a hole. Just guessing. I’ve only seen pictures of the things and read posts of people talking about them. I don’t know much about em other than they’re a very early lower wattage mtl mod, they are or were quite well made, last a really long time, longer than most regulated mods, are unbelievably expensive, largely because they are effectivly artifacts, and were the first or one of the first regulated devices. That’s about all I know about em.

Very few mods explode. You more or less need a mech without functional venting using a battery it wasn’t originally designed for. Assuming that a given mod was designed by an engineer who did the math and not an ID designer who didn’t even know about the math in the first place. This is the problem with small run mechs. There’s no way to know.

And here you two had me getting excited to send my one lonely iGo. Party poopers, the boff of ya.

Not sure if there’s a difference between an ego and an iGo. I remember there being what was effectively an ego shaped mech case. I had one at one time. Long gone. Probably took it apart and then lost pieces. That happened a lot.

 

[bombastinator]

Just so that you know, the ProVari is vented at both ends of the battery. There is a hole at the bottom, and it would vent through the switch at the top. But, the amp limiter (short protection) kinda takes care of that.
I sure wish you would stop with the foot in mouth problem you seem to be suffering from.

add: You might also like to know that the ProVari (V1) was the first regulated mod to hit the market (December 2010), and that in the 13 years of it's existence, there has never been one to explode.

The foot in mouth problem you mention seems to be Me remembering the guy that died being killed by a provari. It is the way I remember it. Iirc he owned one. It might not have been what he was Vaping at the time though apparently. I put two and two together. If that qualifies as foot-in-mouth it is unlikely that it will ever be resolved.

 

[smacuser]