When Ecigs are banned in public...
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Yeah, that's kinda the DEFINITION. if they are alive, they aren't aborted.
Based on this logic one could construe that smoking/vaping does not kill thus all related regulations are machinations of the devil.
Back when I used to drink in the US, I would get so upset at looking at all the beer in a store like Total Beverage and not be able to sample any. I don't know how I survived...
No, that would be illogical.
look, it's simple. Not being allowed to vape in a vape shop isn't even in the same league as back alley abortion. You can willfully be obtuse, but that doesn't change anything.
Not for beer...
I was also bitter when I smoked that I couldn't sample cigarettes at the convenience store before I decided which strength or flavor I wanted...
"Not being allowed to vape in a vape shop" was mentioned because it's particularly ridiculous, however it's part of a bigger, grim picture. Removing vaping from smoker's quitting possibilities is not a joke.
The vast majority of those who try e-cigarettes buy them from gas stations and convenience stores...
It's all moot anyway, as the taxes will drive the B&Ms out of business next year...
It's all moot anyway, as the taxes will drive the B&Ms out of business next year...
By law? Maybe, maybe not. But liquor licenses are insanely expensive- truly a barrier of entry into the liquor business. In particular, liquor licenses that allow consumption (bars, restaurants, any place that serves). The licenses come with a long list of restrictions, usually tailored to the specific establishment- what can be served, where it can be served, and precisely where a drink can be taken.
So, for example, if you try to walk out of a bar with a beer in your hand, that may well be a violation of the terms of the liquor license, and that is why the bartender will likely come screaming after you to ditch the bottle. His license is now in jeopardy. Liquor licenses (at least here where I am) are by requirement owned by individuals, who are individually accountable for infractions (penalties, etc). No corporate veil. For example, my condo has a liquor license, but the license is actually owned by a couple of old time owners, not the condo association that runs the liquor concessions, because that is the requirement of the liquor board. And, of course, in addition to penalties is the threat of the loss of that very valuable and expensive license. If some renter (this is a summer vacation condo operation) walks off the recreation deck with a drink or a bottle in their hand, those owners, who may not even spend any time there, are personally responsible. And the licence in jeopardy.
I went into this for two reasons. First, to suggest how onerous regulations can be, in this case a liquor license. And second, to suggest that this is one possible direction vaping enforcement could head, at some level. You might argue not likely, but it *could* be done. At some level, maybe not to the extent of the liquor biz.
I imagine in some states or localities vape shops will be regulated like cigar shops...
Let me walk you through it again.
Step 1 - Please answer the question "Does smoking kill?" with yes or no
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It begins and ends with, not being allowed to vape in a vape shop is not analogous to back alley abortions.
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Back alley abortions are the result of narrow minded, ignorant busy bodies thinking they have the right to determine how everyone should live their lives.
How are e cig regulations different
How are e cig regulations different
When I started vaping there were no B&Ms. I don't know how I survived. Not a single shop I could go where I could test BLU cartos. It was a travesty...
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