Who thinks ECF needs to add a dislike button?

[jpargana]

I agree with six, no need for a dislike button. If we respectfully disagree with someone, it is better to quote the post and explain why.

I've been here a while and really had no true beef with anyone by doing this.

Dislike buttons would just turn the forum into a series of petty squabbles in short order IMHO.

This.

To the OP: IMHO, the best way to educate people about poor experience and bad advice, is to quote the original post, and then explain exactly why it is wrong.
That is the best way to give other people the correct answer to a given problem.

For example, we have seen people posting here in the "sub-ohm" forum, stating something like "I do not even know Ohm's law, but that's OK"

A simple "dislike" button is not enough to explain people why sub-ohming AND not knowing what you're doing can lead to disaster - and to the "ANTZ ammo" you spoke of.

Plus, it could turn this great forum into an hostile one. Today, if you "dislike" someone's post, you have at least to explain WHY - not just "because"...

 

[NoMoreTequila]

Such a thing would make a largely friendly place in to a very hostile one in a hurry. If you don't like what this or that individual has to say, use the controls in your "settings". There is a section called "my account" and under that is "edit ignore list". I preach liberal use of the ignore list... and I practice what I preach. It helps me keep ECF friendly because I just don't see posts from folks I prefer not to see posts from and whatever they say goes unread by me and therefore can not annoy me.

As to good vs bad advice - Try to give good advice. When good advice is given respectfully, it is usually recognized as what it is and appreciated for how it was given. - As to anything you think is bad advice, respectfully disagreeing is appropriate.

I agree wholeheartedly with your reasoning!

HOWEVER!!! MANY is the times I've wanted to dislike a post and just move on!

 

[tayone415]

This.

To the OP: IMHO, the best way to educate people about poor experience and bad advice, is to quote the original post, and then explain exactly why it is wrong.
That is the best way to give other people the correct answer to a given problem.

For example, we have seen people posting here in the "sub-ohm" forum, stating something like "I do not even know Ohm's law, but that's OK"

A simple "dislike" button is not enough to explain people why sub-ohming AND not knowing what you're doing can lead to disaster - and to the "ANTZ ammo" you spoke of.

Plus, it could turn this great forum into an hostile one. Today, if you "dislike" someone's post, you have at least to explain WHY - not just "because"...

I already had agreed and realized that it could cause a hostile forum, like I mentioned before as well it was more of a rant than anything else. Also, seeing many posts where I myself and other more responsible members quote posts and explain what is wrong, for example recommending a mech to a noob that just wants more TH from an ego or vision spinner then a few post later you get 1 or 2 more members still with +1, +2 for getting a mech and it kind of undoes what someone just wrote to get a new vaper to not consider as an option.

For myself, I'm just going to stop browsing and posting in the new member forums, and leave it the vets.

 

[NoMoreTequila]

I already had agreed and realized that it could cause a hostile forum, like I mentioned before as well it was more of a rant than anything else. Also, seeing many posts where I myself and other more responsible members quote posts and explain what is wrong, for example recommending a mech to a noob that just wants more TH from an ego or vision spinner then a few post later you get 1 or 2 more members still with +1, +2 for getting a mech and it kind of undoes what someone just wrote to get a new vaper to not consider as an option.

For myself, I'm just going to stop browsing and posting in the new member forums, and leave it the vets.

Definite dislike!

How many times can we vote?

 

[tayone415]

Definite dislike!

How many times can we vote?

Only 1 vote per member

But, I wasn't giving bad advice HAHA!!!!

 

[k2zs]

I moderate on another forum (unrelated to vaping) that uses a "Reputation" plugin. Members can give reputation points based on good replies as well as subtract from a users reputation based upon bad advise. It's totally anonymous and the users overall reputation is shown under their avatar and is "cumulative".

On that forum, I think it helps newbies weigh through all the replies as someone with lets say 2000 positive reputation points may be more credible than someone with 10 negative reputation points. It also motivates people to provide better replies/advise to help build their reputation. I've seen members that have swung to a negative reputation work hard to regain a positive reputation.

In my opinion, when we added that plugin the overall "quality" of the forum seemed to improve greatly. It was kind of like getting a "gold star" when you were a kid lol....

 

[K_Tech]

In my opinion, a "dislike" without an explanation is as useless as a "D" on an essay without a critique. Nothing is learned.

 

[Susan~S]

I moderate on another forum (unrelated to vaping) that uses a "Reputation" plugin. Members can give reputation points based on good replies as well as subtract from a users reputation based upon bad advise. It's totally anonymous and the users overall reputation is shown under their avatar and is "cumulative".

On that forum, I think it helps newbies weigh through all the replies as someone with lets say 2000 positive reputation points may be more credible than someone with 10 negative reputation points. It also motivates people to provide better replies/advise to help build their reputation. I've seen members that have swung to a negative reputation work hard to regain a positive reputation.

In my opinion, when we added that plugin the overall "quality" of the forum seemed to improve greatly. It was kind of like getting a "gold star" when you were a kid lol....

I really, really like this idea!

 

[HecticEnergy]

I really, really like this idea!

I think everyone's goal to beat would be baditudes.. LOL


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[NathanielFT]

All a dislike button will do is make this place hostile, even though I love the forum and there's some really nice people on here only interested in speaking with others who share their passion, helping others and widening their own knowledge, it's not the friendliest forum i use

 

[NathanielFT]

I moderate on another forum (unrelated to vaping) that uses a "Reputation" plugin. Members can give reputation points based on good replies as well as subtract from a users reputation based upon bad advise. It's totally anonymous and the users overall reputation is shown under their avatar and is "cumulative".

On that forum, I think it helps newbies weigh through all the replies as someone with lets say 2000 positive reputation points may be more credible than someone with 10 negative reputation points. It also motivates people to provide better replies/advise to help build their reputation. I've seen members that have swung to a negative reputation work hard to regain a positive reputation.

In my opinion, when we added that plugin the overall "quality" of the forum seemed to improve greatly. It was kind of like getting a "gold star" when you were a kid lol....

I really, really like this idea!

+1 for this idea!

 

[The Cloud Minder]

After reading many threads posted by either new members who are very inexperienced or other members who have been vaping for awhile without too much knowledge about vaping besides how to charge their devices and change coils and refill their tanks, so many inexperienced people or newer members will give unsafe advice and ridiculous recommendations to sub-ohm and cloud chase with mechs and RDAs.

Is it just me or does anyone else feel like there should be a dislike option, along with a like option for every post to discourage ceratin comments and prevent other people from accepting bad advice and steer them in the right direction?

Bad advice in my opinion not only can lead to disaster and destruction and harm to someone, but will add to ammo to regulate or ban vaping.

Just my

Then what, next week you'll want an "Enemies" list to balance off your friends list?

 

[Topwater Elvis]

The dislike button is when someone corrects misinformation and questions or corrects bad / dangerous advice instead of clicking off the thread it is posted in.

 

[AzPlumber]

The dislike button is when someone corrects misinformation and questions or corrects bad / dangerous advice instead of clicking off the thread it is posted in.

So if the post contains more than one suggestion, how will it be determined what the dislike is for.

 

[The Cloud Minder]

So if the post contains more than one suggestion, how will it be determined what the dislike is for.

No more questions!

That's it, I'm putting you on my Enemies List! j/k

 

[Anjaffm]

I agree with most prior posters that a "dislike" button is not a good idea.

1. Yes, I agree: when bad advice is given, it is better to quote it and then to correct it
2. Yes, it could make the forum hostile. Nobody likes being "disliked" while not even knowing why.

Hm.... on the other hand.... *evil grin*:
With a "dislike" button, groups of vapers with opposing views could really "go to town" on each other... hehehehehe
And yeah, gimme that "enemies" list

.. Hm.. ok.. no "dislike" button. It just is not nice....

And the "ignore" feature can be quite useful, if you do not enjoy the postings by certain members. I use it sparingly, but I do use it.

 

[Topwater Elvis]

So if the post contains more than one suggestion, how will it be determined what the dislike is for.

Okay, I wasn't clear, what I meant was, when you read a post containing misinformation / bad advice you can quote it and correct it, to me that is the dislike button.

 

[AndriaD]

Such a thing would make a largely friendly place in to a very hostile one in a hurry. If you don't like what this or that individual has to say, use the controls in your "settings". There is a section called "my account" and under that is "edit ignore list". I preach liberal use of the ignore list... and I practice what I preach. It helps me keep ECF friendly because I just don't see posts from folks I prefer not to see posts from and whatever they say goes unread by me and therefore can not annoy me.

As to good vs bad advice - Try to give good advice. When good advice is given respectfully, it is usually recognized as what it is and appreciated for how it was given. - As to anything you think is bad advice, respectfully disagreeing is appropriate.

You know, I have a few times wished there was a dislike button, but I'd have to say I agree with your estimate that it would cause more problems than it would solve. People around here already tend to be a little too "tetchy," maybe it's cigarette withdrawal, who knows. But I think it would cause a lot more of that "tetchiness" without really addressing the problem of bad advice -- which would give all the mods a bigger headache and cause them to have to jump into more threads with their "calm down" messages, and end up closing down more threads just due to pure bickering over who liked or disliked what.

But thank you very much for explaining how to do that "ignore" thing; I'd wondered how to do that, on a few occasions. So far no one has annoyed me sufficiently to have to absolutely track down that info on how to go about ignoring them, but a few have come close.

Andria

 

[Robino1]

To use the ignore feature very quickly and easily:

Click on the persons avatar, it brings up their profile, there is a list under their profile picture, fourth item down: Add to Ignore List. Confirm by clicking Yes.

Easy peasy

 

[Vaponators]

I have to agree with most of the previous replies to this thread. I personally do not think that a dislike button would be an improvement. ECF is a forum. The word 'forum', as defined by Merriam-Webster, means "a place or opportunity for discussing a subject". Discussing, not disliking.

A dislike button probably wouldn't foster much discussion but would almost definitely cause friction between some members. Whether you're a noob who just bought his first small starter kit or a veteran with years of vaping experience, I don't see the need to dislike a post you don't happen to agree with. That is in no way constructive or helpful. Especially if you see someone offering bad or, even worse, dangerous advice. The better option would be a constructive reply to the questionable post with an explanation as to why you think it's bad or dangerous. That would be much more helpful to those who actually asked for help.

After all, we're all here to learn from each other, help each other and maybe entertain each other once in a while with some goodhearted Vaping Humor. This forum was a great help to me when I started vaping. I received plenty of helpful advice and guidance from knowledgeable members. I prefer to take what I've learned and pay it forward.

Educate, Inform, Inspire. No need to dislike.

Just my