Why are we (vapers) so cheap?

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HawkeyeFLA

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Darn!!!! I just realized that my dreams of waiting for the eGo-Twist to come out in fancy designs are all shattered since Joye makes the Twist lol... Ah, well.

P.S. Hey, I have an idea!! Maybe Joye can clone the eGo-Q & K?

Maybe, but from what I've seen of their product history, they seem to stick to the pretty basic stuff. Probably a good idea in the long run if you think about it. Consistency is a good business model some times. Especially in the every changing world of PVs.
 

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I myself inherited what we like to call the cheap gene in my family. It's carried on my father's side, mind you; my mother's side carries the plastic fever gene, which skips a generation for the most part, until the last 4 minutes of an ebay auction, when it is known to switch itself on without warning.

This doesn't mean I don't spend too much money- it means I'm always looking for the best deal I can find. I'll pay top dollar for what I want if I have to, but I get an extra thrill if I can find a better deal for it. I get satisfaction from it. This yet another reason I love vaping- I feel like I've gotten a lot for my money- fresher smelling house, improved health, weight loss, hair that smells like my shampoo instead of an ashtray, probably years added to my life, and I still haven't spent as much on vaping as I would have on cigs.

So yeah, it does puzzle me when someone tells me they just can't afford to spend the money it would take to start vaping, or people who ask how much I've spent on a pv and then act like I'm crazy for it- and then they go waste more money on cigs. My equipment has all been very reasonably priced, imo, even my first fairly mediocre starter kit was only about half the cost of the usual rip-off mall vendor kits, and it got me hooked on vaping, so it was worth every penny, imo.

Anyway, I embrace my thrifty side- I celebrate it, in fact, but I will continue to buy whatever I need to make vaping work for me with no guilt and no apologies over what it costs. Smoking was costing me my life.
 

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lol!! We are all in this conversation together! This conversation about saving pennies and being cheap :p.
I know... I was just afraid that I was answering questions that were directed to you, about items you have personal experience with. Just don't want to step on your toes, is all... :toast:
 

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*snip*

So yeah, it does puzzle me when someone tells me they just can't afford to spend the money it would take to start vaping, or people who ask how much I've spent on a pv and then act like I'm crazy for it- and then they go waste more money on cigs. My equipment has all been very reasonably priced, imo, even my first fairly mediocre starter kit was only about half the cost of the usual rip-off mall vendor kits, and it got me hooked on vaping, so it was worth every penny, imo.

*snip*

One of the guys at the restaurant at work explained part of his problem with the up front investment, and I can see his side. He gets paid weekly. During that week, he can usually find the funds for his 3/4th - 1PAD habit to make it come out over the course of the week. To get a starter kit would kind of hit into his overall weekly budget. He seems genuinely interested, so at some point I'm hoping I can PIF him a few things, tho another friend is first in line. Even if I just loan the batteries and the knowledge to get them started, then they can save and get their own setup accordingly. Sadly *a lot* of people I work with live paycheck to paycheck. Yes there is potential savings if you switch ... but still need that initial investment up front to get started, and for some it's not easy to get to right now.
 

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I know... I was just afraid that I was answering questions that were directed to you, about items you have personal experience with. Just don't want to step on your toes, is all... :toast:
Just because I have a few fancy eGo's doesn't mean I'm an expert or actually know anything lol! I have a car... but all I know is that it needs petol, water and oil. That's about it. Oh - and pump up the tires sometimes...
 

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One of the guys at the restaurant at work explained part of his problem with the up front investment, and I can see his side. He gets paid weekly. During that week, he can usually find the funds for his 3/4th - 1PAD habit to make it come out over the course of the week. To get a starter kit would kind of hit into his overall weekly budget. He seems genuinely interested, so at some point I'm hoping I can PIF him a few things, tho another friend is first in line. Even if I just loan the batteries and the knowledge to get them started, then they can save and get their own setup accordingly. Sadly *a lot* of people I work with live paycheck to paycheck. Yes there is potential savings if you switch ... but still need that initial investment up front to get started, and for some it's not easy to get to right now.
Indeed... Just look at you and I, for instance. We started around the same time, and we have both spent $420. It's not cheap to get into and get comfortable.


Edit... Then again, you and I are probably spending more than one should have to spend. You've bought like 5 batteries, and I've bought enough liquid supplies to last through the 2012 apocalypse. :laugh:
 
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Just because I have a few fancy eGo's doesn't mean I'm an expert or actually know anything lol! I have a car... but all I know is that it needs petol, water and oil. That's about it. Oh - and pump up the tires sometimes...
Wait... You mean you have to put air in those round black thingies? :D
 

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One of the guys at the restaurant at work explained part of his problem with the up front investment, and I can see his side. He gets paid weekly. During that week, he can usually find the funds for his 3/4th - 1PAD habit to make it come out over the course of the week. To get a starter kit would kind of hit into his overall weekly budget. He seems genuinely interested, so at some point I'm hoping I can PIF him a few things, tho another friend is first in line. Even if I just loan the batteries and the knowledge to get them started, then they can save and get their own setup accordingly. Sadly *a lot* of people I work with live paycheck to paycheck. Yes there is potential savings if you switch ... but still need that initial investment up front to get started, and for some it's not easy to get to right now.
For my poorer or more sceptical newbie friends and acquaintances, I bought 2 batteries, a USB charger, one Stardust and a few cheap cartos from Health Cabin and gave them some of my unloved juices in little bottles. Cheap, cheap....
 
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For my poorer or more sceptical newbie friends and aquantances, I bought 2 batteries, a USB charger, one Stardust and a few cheap cartos from Health Cabin and gave them some of my unloved juices in little bottles. Cheap, cheap....

I don't make much more than he does, I just happen to get more OT at times. Which is how I was able to make the leap from an elcheapo 808D-1 to my eGo-C kit. But as interest with some of my coworkers and friends grow, I'll do whatever I can to help 'em out. Some time in July I think I'll start trying my hand at DIY. I personally have no desire for tobacco flavors anymore, but knowing that they helped me initially, I'll even do a few of those if I have to.

But for now, I sleep.
 

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Darn!!!! I just realized that my dreams of waiting for the eGo-Twist to come out in fancy designs are all shattered since Joye makes the Twist lol... Ah, well.

P.S. Hey, I have an idea!! Maybe Joye can clone the eGo-Q & K?
And call it the eGo Mmmmmmmmm!
hehe.. that is hysterical! It happens in every single thread that is trying to 'save money' kind of thing lol!!! Your avatar suits you BTW. As Good As It Gets happens to be one of my favorite movies of all time.

OK, I buy all my stuff from Health Cabin ! The eGo's actual casing is engraved in the K range and the Q range it has a kind of embossed metal sleeve/wrap thing. I love the feel of them!
Great flic! Jack always gets the best lines, too. "You make me want to be a better man." Classic!
I myself inherited what we like to call the cheap gene in my family. It's carried on my father's side, mind you; my mother's side carries the plastic fever gene, which skips a generation for the most part, until the last 4 minutes of an ebay auction, when it is known to switch itself on without warning.

This doesn't mean I don't spend too much money- it means I'm always looking for the best deal I can find. I'll pay top dollar for what I want if I have to, but I get an extra thrill if I can find a better deal for it. I get satisfaction from it. This yet another reason I love vaping- I feel like I've gotten a lot for my money- fresher smelling house, improved health, weight loss, hair that smells like my shampoo instead of an ashtray, probably years added to my life, and I still haven't spent as much on vaping as I would have on cigs.

So yeah, it does puzzle me when someone tells me they just can't afford to spend the money it would take to start vaping, or people who ask how much I've spent on a pv and then act like I'm crazy for it- and then they go waste more money on cigs. My equipment has all been very reasonably priced, imo, even my first fairly mediocre starter kit was only about half the cost of the usual rip-off mall vendor kits, and it got me hooked on vaping, so it was worth every penny, imo.

Anyway, I embrace my thrifty side- I celebrate it, in fact, but I will continue to buy whatever I need to make vaping work for me with no guilt and no apologies over what it costs. Smoking was costing me my life.

Great post! It has the same flow as a good rom-com. I laughed in the beginning, but by the end, I was sobbing.

I couldn't agree more that LIFE is worth more than $$$$. The two cannot even be measured in the same terms.
 
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I think it's because when we buy cigarettes the initial payment for a pack is only around $6. With e-cigs and PV's most of us have to put down at least $100 before we get a decent set-up. The costs of vaping might be cheaper but that is in the longer scheme of things. People just aren't ready to buy in bulk for something that is still mysterious and new to them. Me included, but I eventually jumped the gun and now I'm quite happy with the little that I have.
 

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I myself inherited what we like to call the cheap gene in my family. It's carried on my father's side, mind you; my mother's side carries the plastic fever gene, which skips a generation for the most part, until the last 4 minutes of an ebay auction, when it is known to switch itself on without warning.

This doesn't mean I don't spend too much money- it means I'm always looking for the best deal I can find. I'll pay top dollar for what I want if I have to, but I get an extra thrill if I can find a better deal for it. I get satisfaction from it. This yet another reason I love vaping- I feel like I've gotten a lot for my money- fresher smelling house, improved health, weight loss, hair that smells like my shampoo instead of an ashtray, probably years added to my life, and I still haven't spent as much on vaping as I would have on cigs.

So yeah, it does puzzle me when someone tells me they just can't afford to spend the money it would take to start vaping, or people who ask how much I've spent on a pv and then act like I'm crazy for it- and then they go waste more money on cigs. My equipment has all been very reasonably priced, imo, even my first fairly mediocre starter kit was only about half the cost of the usual rip-off mall vendor kits, and it got me hooked on vaping, so it was worth every penny, imo.

Anyway, I embrace my thrifty side- I celebrate it, in fact, but I will continue to buy whatever I need to make vaping work for me with no guilt and no apologies over what it costs. Smoking was costing me my life.

lol!!! I agree 100%. Actually maybe more than 100% since I agree double about the itchy finger on the mouse part, just as the clock ticks a few minutes at the end of an eBay auction... sigh... I think it is a disease. but quite a very NICE disease hehe :p.
 

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I don't consider myself cheap at all. If I want something I buy it. I've spent way more money on e-cig stuff than I even want to think about.

I bought a carto punch from one place a couple of weeks ago (can't remember who) just to see if it would work. It was $45 after shipping and it turns out it works great. My roommate thought I was crazy but I was sick of busting out the Dremel to slot cartos. It was only $45 so I figured why not. Was it worth $45? To me that is a big yes, but to others it's a waste of money.

Even though I don't make .... for where I live (SF Bay Area), I'm lucky to rent a room from a friend for super cheap and I'm single with no kids. That makes a big difference.
 

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I think it's because when we buy cigarettes the initial payment for a pack is only around $6. With e-cigs and PV's most of us have to put down at least $100 before we get a decent set-up. The costs of vaping might be cheaper but that is in the longer scheme of things. People just aren't ready to buy in bulk for something that is still mysterious and new to them. Me included, but I eventually jumped the gun and now I'm quite happy with the little that I have.

That is why I have 2 of my old 808 kits ready to go with cartos and some juices should a friend, or even an acquaintance, shows an interest.
 

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Are you nuts? Me? Why??? No, I just point to the wheels at the petol station and the attendants do it.
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I don't consider myself cheap at all. If I want something I buy it. I've spent way more money on e-cig stuff than I even want to think about.

I bought a carto punch from one place a couple of weeks ago (can't remember who) just to see if it would work. It was $45 after shipping and it turns out it works great. My roommate thought I was crazy but I was sick of busting out the Dremel to slot cartos. It was only $45 so I figured why not. Was it worth $45? To me that is a big yes, but to others it's a waste of money.

Even though I don't make .... for where I live (SF Bay Area), I'm lucky to rent a room from a friend for super cheap and I'm single with no kids. That makes a big difference.
Still can't believe people can still afford to live in Cali. In 2001, I spent $1600 a month on a one bedroom apartment (not even a real nice one) in Santa Barbara. It's a nice area....but not THAT nice.
 

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One of the guys at the restaurant at work explained part of his problem with the up front investment, and I can see his side. He gets paid weekly. During that week, he can usually find the funds for his 3/4th - 1PAD habit to make it come out over the course of the week. To get a starter kit would kind of hit into his overall weekly budget. He seems genuinely interested, so at some point I'm hoping I can PIF him a few things, tho another friend is first in line. Even if I just loan the batteries and the knowledge to get them started, then they can save and get their own setup accordingly. Sadly *a lot* of people I work with live paycheck to paycheck. Yes there is potential savings if you switch ... but still need that initial investment up front to get started, and for some it's not easy to get to right now.

I get that, trust me, I do. I'm certainly not rolling in disposable income- just ask my poor deprived children, who regard our family's dismal lack of smartphones as some sort of child abuse. Most of my income is residuals that trickle in from past work that I've done and freelance illustration, for which I usually get paid by the job. Some months are tighter than others, but it's always tight, so I budget accordingly.

Part of the reason it was so important to me to quit this time is because my 14 y/o had started stealing my cigs. I had to get those things out of my house asap. Since I always bought cigs by the carton, and not the pack, I was already budgeting for that regular expenditure, so spending a few more dollars for that first starter kit than I would've spent on the carton anyway didn't seem like a splurge to me at all, esp when I knew it would be saving me so much in the long run.

I've already sent my first kit along to help someone new decide it's crap in a month or two, and my mom will be getting one of my Leas as soon as my new itaste arrives, after which we'll be paying her mediocre starter kit forward onto one of my brothers. I'm not sure why I want to keep one of the most irritating people I know around forever, but I do.
 
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