why are you subohming on a regulated device?

[edyle]

It's still a safety concern to pull that out of the mains (and into your lungs)

You're saying there's a safety concern to pull 300 watts from the wall?

It's safe to pull 300 watts from the wall; your kettle pulls a thousand watts.
The comparison is with pulling it from a battery.

Whatever goes into the lungs either way is a different matter.


With the high powered regulated mod, you can run lower amperage on a bigger ohm coil, but the point is to get 100 watts from a 4 volt battery, that little battery still has to put of 25 amps.
If you were using a 12 volt input via the mains, you'd be running less than 10 amps into the electronics of the device.

 

[dr g]

Whatever goes into the lungs either way is a different matter.

Some might say it's THE matter ... after all we are vaping, not space heating.

Technically speaking the operation is undoubtedly more simple. Push button complete circuit coil fires. Regulated has to pass through your chip first.

Operation means operation by the user. Either way the primary user input is pushing a button.

Again, simplistic design is a questionable virtue for a consumer device. For example, starting your car with a key is far more complex than having a hanging hot wire in the cabin. Yet no one would praise the hot wire's simplicity.

 

[Herzeleid14]

can we get at least one reason why?

For me, price. i'd love a high watt box mod, but they are just well out of price range at this time.

 

[Wraith504]

Operation means operation by the user. Either way the primary user input is pushing a button.[/QUOTE]
Should we start speaking in binary code? Lol. Im sure you know what i mean. Yes operation by the user is the same. Operation by the device is not. The regulated has to use a chip. I dont think one is better than the other, I think it is a matter of preference. Safety wise, they are all made by man and therefore they are all prone to failing some kind of way.

 

[dr g]

I dont think one is better than the other, I think it is a matter of preference.

Didn't you just say one was better than the other?

 

[Wraith504]

Didn't you just say one was better than the other?

Pretty sure i said which one i prefer. Not better or worse. Need help with context maybe?

 

[Wraith504]

Do you want to drive a 69 chevelle or an eco friendly electric smart car?

 

[dr g]

Pretty sure i said which one i prefer. Not better or worse. Need help with context maybe?

LOL.. +1 for Mechs in my book.

Context, you say?

 

[Wraith504]

Context, you say?

Sounds like you assumed that i implied that mechs are better. Context i say again.

 

[The Cloud Minder]

why are you subohming on a regulated device?
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Why?

Because I don't own any non regulated Mods, and I like Vaping at 2 1.4 coils coming in at 0.7 Ohms with 30watts going to it.

Is that OK with you OP?

Am I allowed to do that?

 

[dr g]

Sounds like you assumed that i implied that mechs are better. Context i say again.

You didn't just imply it, you outright said it.

Does anyone here think he wasn't saying "this is a reason mechs are better"?

Anyway all this mech talk is really a derailment. I feel like my edited-in answers to the OP may have been missed so regarding the OP:

to answer the OP, you would run subohm on a regulated mod for a couple reasons.

1) to use a certain build in a certain atomizer that cannot be built higher ohm. for example in my immortalizer, if i am building using ribbon kanthal, i cannot get it higher than about .7 ohms.

2) depending on the regulator's maximum output voltage, you may need to use a <1 ohm load to get high output wattage. for example if your converter tops out at 6v, 120 watts, to get 120 watts you will need a .3 ohm load.

you are right that in general subohm builds are not necessary on regulated mods, at least not in the same way they are on mechs. and that it is often a better idea to build higher if you can for your application.

 

[edyle]

why are you subohming on a regulated device?
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Why?

Because I don't own any non regulated Mods, and I like Vaping at 2 1.4 coils coming in at 0.7 Ohms with 30watts going to it.

Is that OK with you OP?

Am I allowed to do that?

That works out to 4.5 volts; that's an example of using your 30 watt mod to do something a regular mech couldn't do which is what the OP is talking about.

 

[The Cloud Minder]

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[FatherTime]

For me, price. i'd love a high watt box mod, but they are just well out of price range at this time.

100 bucks for a 50 watt device? come on man youre paying for internet you can probably pay for that if you can pay for a mech. even clone vs clone you can get 30 watts for like 60 bucks. MAYBE 20 bucks more than the clone in your hand

why are you subohming on a regulated device?
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Why?

Because I don't own any non regulated Mods, and I like Vaping at 2 1.4 coils coming in at 0.7 Ohms with 30watts going to it.

Is that OK with you OP?

Am I allowed to do that?

no! im really upset. jk all im trying to do is show you how you could improve your setup. yea you can do that but why not increase the resistance and maybe lower your wattage for better battery life. if that and only that setup is what you prefer then good for you, really

this post is more for those people who like i said want to vape 180 watts on a .1 ohm build

warith and dr g...shut the front door and stay on topic. thanks

 

[imsoenthused]

As far as I know, and I'm no expert, the amperage you are seeing at the coil end isn't what the batteries are having to provide if you are using a voltage above the maximum voltage discharge of the batteries. In fact, because of inefficiencies in the circuit you''ll require more amperage from the battery to hit the wattage you are after at a higher voltage, right?

 

[edyle]

As far as I know, and I'm no expert, the amperage you are seeing at the coil end isn't what the batteries are having to provide if you are using a voltage above the maximum voltage discharge of the batteries. In fact, because of inefficiencies in the circuit you''ll require more amperage from the battery to hit the wattage you are after at a higher voltage, right?

Yes that is correct.

 

[dr g]

As far as I know, and I'm no expert, the amperage you are seeing at the coil end isn't what the batteries are having to provide if you are using a voltage above the maximum voltage discharge of the batteries. In fact, because of inefficiencies in the circuit you''ll require more amperage from the battery to hit the wattage you are after at a higher voltage, right?

If you are comparing unregulated to regulated yes, but in a regulated circuit, from what I have seen converters tend to be most efficient at the highest output voltages.

 

[imsoenthused]

If you are comparing unregulated to regulated yes, but in a regulated circuit, from what I have seen converters tend to be most efficient at the highest output voltages.

That makes some sense, I've always felt I got the best battery life out of my ProVari running it with 2.4 ohm coils and cranking it up to 6 volts than I did using any other combo to hit 15 watts. So even on one of the brand new super high wattage mods, you'd be better off deciding the wattage you wanted, let's say 80 watts for a quad coil built RDA, and using that wattage and the device's maximum voltage to calculate the best resistance for your build, right? At least as far as getting the best longevity on a charge?

 

[TheRac25]

this also almost doubles your battery life.

ohms law is absolute, batteries have a fixed watt hour capacity. if you noticed anything to the contrary, i can tell you 100%, you noticed wrong or youre just talking out of your poop hole

perhaps you meant usable battery life?

 

[dr g]

That makes some sense, I've always felt I got the best battery life out of my ProVari running it with 2.4 ohm coils and cranking it up to 6 volts than I did using any other combo to hit 15 watts. So even on one of the brand new super high wattage mods, you'd be better off deciding the wattage you wanted, let's say 80 watts for a quad coil built RDA, and using that wattage and the device's maximum voltage to calculate the best resistance for your build, right? At least as far as getting the best longevity on a charge?

Well with many of the converters i've seen, they top out around 6v-and-change, so there will have to be some resistance matching to get the wattage range you want.