Why do people say RDAs put out better flavor than RBAs?

[cramptholomew]

I think I might have just gotten lucky that I started vaping when I did having things like the RSST available. I read about people having a hard time with genesis atomizers and it blows my mind. But then again, the RSST is basically fail safe.

I've had trouble getting my RSST to perform the way I want. I like a warm vape with lots of flavor, and even though building the RSST isn't difficult, getting the build to work the way I want is tricky. SS wicking isn't always foolproof, and the fact that the cap is HUMONGOUS doesn't help the flavor/warmth. I've finally found what, to me, is the best setup for it. I use 1/16" SS cable, fully sleeved in 400 or 500 mesh, with a 3 wrap (4/3 I guess) of .8mm flat kanthal (~.8Ω). I use that same setup in my AGA-T3, and it works even better, due to the reduced chamber.

 

[ConradM]

I've been stuffing a cotton ball in my top cap. But I ordered a reducer last night.

 

[emus]

I've been stuffing a cotton ball in my top cap. But I ordered a reducer last night.

I wan't reducers for my 22 mm RTAs.

The Pulse G has a reducer and vapes nicer than some other 22 mm RTAs.

I've thought about buying a thick plastic cutting board and making some reducers, unless someone sells reducers for common RTAs?

 

[WattWick]

It can be slightly annoying for an avid gennie user to see people attribute all shortcomings of their gennies to the basics of gennie design. I can't help but shake my head and think "You're doing it wrong." I don't know what I'm doing right that others do wrong, but when I re-fill a half full gennie with mainly clear/yellowy liquid, I can't see a difference in color between the juice already in there and the fresh liquid. Actually, on one of my Agas I can see this "flaw". I attribute this to a slightly too thin wick, and not to gennies being crap in general. Another point is to have sufficient air flow and not stop sucking on it just as you let go of the button. You'll get a lot of condensation which may well seep back into the tank./rant off

 

[Equality 7-2521]

Genny design has really taken a big step up recently, with attys like the kraken, prometheus, steamboy,steam turbine, you can get amazing vapes from them, but.......if you use ss or ceramic you are going to get your juice cooked....anymore I don't fill my tank more than half full.

 

[Equality 7-2521]

the pulse g is a really, really good vape.

I wan't reducers for my 22 mm RTAs.

The Pulse G has a reducer and vapes nicer than some other 22 mm RTAs.

I've thought about buying a thick plastic cutting board and making some reducers, unless someone sells reducers for common RTAs?

 

[muzichead]

I've had trouble getting my RSST to perform the way I want. I like a warm vape with lots of flavor, and even though building the RSST isn't difficult, getting the build to work the way I want is tricky. SS wicking isn't always foolproof, and the fact that the cap is HUMONGOUS doesn't help the flavor/warmth. I've finally found what, to me, is the best setup for it. I use 1/16" SS cable, fully sleeved in 400 or 500 mesh, with a 3 wrap (4/3 I guess) of .8mm flat kanthal (~.8Ω). I use that same setup in my AGA-T3, and it works even better, due to the reduced chamber.

Good to hear you have found something that is working good for you. I might suggest on the RSST to try a 3/32" wick. That is what I am using in mine and wicks very fast with a 500 SS mesh wrap on it. You can get a reducer for the RSST top cap as well. There are 2 different ones out there right now. Kidney Puncher has one that is $30.00 and just like the one in the Pulse-G atty. Fusions Mods has the one that I use and it's only $10.00... Here are the links...


RSST-TCI
JB Steamworks RSST Chamber Reducer - Kidney Puncher

28g 2/3 3/32" SS rope/SS mesh .9Ω


These pics are the RSST top cap w/ RSST-TCI

 

[anavidfan]

Ditto on all above, different people enjoy different experiences.

Think of it like this, in the past some people enjoyed puffing on cigarettes, while others cigars and then those that enjoyed a pipe. Drippers are like the pipe smokers in a way. Rebuildable tank atomizer users are more like cigarette smokers, dont know if that makes sense but thats How I figured it. I dont have the patience to drip and puff , then drip more etc. I enjoy a constant device. I can fill my atomizer and have hours of puffs.

 

[muzichead]

Genesis atomizers are RTAs(rebuildable tank atomizers) more specifically. RBAs include genesis and dripping atomizers. The flavor you get out of an atomizer has to do with airflow/chamber size, wicking, coil design, and power. Genesis atomizers don't have a difference in flavor from RDAs because they have a tank. They have a different flavor because their chambers and airflow are different. Plug the wicking hole to the tank in a genesis and use it as a dripper, it will vape the same if it was wicking from the tank, provided you keep it saturated.
Some people like the flavor you get from RDAs, some people prefer RTAs, it's personal preference. The normal chambers/airflow/proper coil/wicks in RDAs are similar as well as in RTAs but RDAs and RTAs are different which leads to the difference in flavor.

A Genesis style atomizer is an RBA. An RDA would be a rebuildable dripping atomizer. An RTA would be either a Sophia or Killer 705 by Leo type of rebuildable that is actually used inside of a tank to take place of a cartomizer...

Sophia
The Killer

 

[emus]

A Genesis style atomizer is an RBA. An RDA would be a rebuildable dripping atomizer. An RTA would be either a Sophia or Killer 705 by Leo type of rebuildable that is actually used inside of a tank to take place of a cartomizer...

Sophia
The Killer

You could be correct.
I use vaping acronyms loosely.
I don't even know what to call my favorite IGO-F

 

[steel bender]

foolishness deleted---I stand corrected...

 

[steel bender]

^^^see above^^^

 

[IMEDICx90]

Kayfuns aren't RTA's.

RTA's are rebuildables that are used INSIDE of tanks like a killer or the grail. They actually replace the cartomizer in a DCT style tank.

I'm not sure other then an RBA as to what a kayfun falls under. A genesis RBA is on the wicks from a top deck down into a tank.

They call then gennys for a reason.


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[Visus]

Ok the facts:
Fresh juice on coils creates the best flavor
warm or hot juice, flavor gets muted a bit
The wicked vaped juice on a genny is connected to the tank and mutes as you vape it down
A proper set-up genny does put out great flavor and vapor but no where in ball park with a proper set-up dripper..

Its the nature of genesis wick being in the juice and sitting with unicorns.
Dripper freshly squeezed juice is hard to duplicate without using titanium..

 

[mitchob123]

Dripper freshly squeezed juice is hard to duplicate without using titanium..

What do you mean by this?

 

[muzichead]

Eurgh, people, it's so hard to follow all this confusion sometimes. Some people referring to gennies as rba's and some saying no. Well, here's what I believe, feel free to correct me if you disagree...

RBA - rebuildable atomizer - ANY atty that is designed to be rebuilt
RTA - rebuildable tank atomizer - ANY atty designed to be rebuilt also having a tank
RDA - rebuildable dripping atomier - ANY atty designed to be rebuilt that requires regular dripping

I know there are more "acronyms" out there, but this is all I'm coming up with at the moment.

Why do people even use the term rba, when there are other, more useful ones available. I also think we should start a new one, if it doesn't already have one. RGA - for rebuildable genesis atomizers. Why not, the other guys have their own and I think a genny should definitely have some separation from a bottom fed RTA like the kayfun.

People use the term RBA because the original RBA was the Genesis. This has been used for almost 2 yrs now. Its not something that was just made up yesterday. The Genesis was a rebuildable atomizer with a tank "attached", because the creator didn't care for tanks with cartomizers in them. He was the one that coined it, "RBA"... Not sure who it was that created the first RDA, but they wanted the same thing but only wanted to drip their liquid only. The RTA is a rebuildable version similar to a cartomizer and goes into a tank, such as an IBTanked or similar type of setup, hence the acronym, "RTA"... While your acronyms are correct, your definitions of them are not... Feel free to go back and research it a little so as you can understand it better. There are enough confused people getting into vaping and rebuildables, but to confuse them even more by changing a vaping acronym to suit "your" understanding is unnecessary....

 

[Visus]

What do you mean by this?

Titanium has great thermal conductivity of most metals, the ejuice will probably be a tad bit under ambient all the while you vape with all things makin good connection. The atomizer will heat up if 510 is dirty or a loose coil..

Did ya know metal at ambient is actually just frozen (iced) material at ambient. It was a science cartoon post on facebook I thought was cool and cute and definitely a duh'....

My aluminum dripper beats all my other drippers that are cast ss or brass coated. When the juice heats up it changes, sometimes to the good, but most times muted and wispier vapor......

This aluminum dripper cools as fast as it heats up, always fresh tasting, cannot say that for my igo-l it gets grungy at times.. I use those two every day all day, I have cigalikes for out an about that I modified.. I guarantee this atomizer will be a favorite. The airhole can be enlarged with a simple kitchen knife as well.

A+ dripper
http://www.fasttech.com/products/1411/10004597/1353406
IGO-L C+ dripper better built than the SM20 with bulletproof ss but no match for the aluminum dripster..

 

[shorestyle]

I've been toying around with this idea lately. I compared a kayfun 3.1 clone to an IGO-W.

Both built with microcoil and cotton. Both are at .6 ohm ran through the same mech mod.

I found I get more flavor with the kayfun, but the IGO-W is a much warmer vape and more vapor production.

 

[Visus]

I've been toying around with this idea lately. I compared a kayfun 3.1 clone to an IGO-W.

Both built with microcoil and cotton. Both are at .6 ohm ran through the same mech mod.

I found I get more flavor with the kayfun, but the IGO-W is a much warmer vape and more vapor production.

The kayfun is an air screw system that has an approximately 4mm airhole with a blockage bottom fed screw. The IGO-w has 1mm in-top airhole stock and modded @2-2.5mm will blow away the kayfun. Theres also airhole adjustments --just by a mm off coil axis and flavor changes by a huge margin not so much the vapor production unless off by a lot....

The kayfun is great but still no match for a proper setup dripper. I've tried every system and a master of coil and wickerer -- The IG)-w can only be beat by another dripper lol.. Freshly squeezed juice mon' no condensation, or temperate change, from a tank.

While still tasty they just cannot due to physics beat a well sorted dripper.. All my results are ss mesh or cable with silica strands to help with shorts, im talking micro 1mm strands of silica works like a charm..

There literally is no argument it just wont cannot be a dripper lol.. Drippers are tedious and tanks rule for that reason alone..

I have a drilled out evod that will out-match your kayfun vape while its a very satisfying vape it is not a drips..

 

[Visus]

Im still wondering how you got a .6 on a kayfun? now that is amazing and duals would definitely clog airflow and no way in actual life would your statement be true... IDK seems not legit there guy.. But it could be two 1.2 micro's but the the airhole being clogged again how is that possible. .7 or .8 ok but .6 lol hella hard..