why do so many people not listen??

[JJOOHHNN]

There was a thread the other day the guy didn't smoke much and vaped on and off and asked people for cheap and cheerful vaping solutions. At least two people told him to buy a Provari and proceeded to go into great detail about their personal collections and experiences with their Provari, like the OP gives a flying ....... what's in their collections.

The guy who posted earlier about people glancing at the thread and rushing to reply without knowing or caring what they're replying to is spot on. It's a disease people catch off the internet. Health authorities have yet to find a cure though I have found putting the offenders into a large box and throwing away the key to be very effective.

You make jabs at people all of the time based on what they use. You have made threads about class, you have said Provari owners look down their nose at other devices yet most Provari owners started on other devices and many still use other devices. A lot of Provari owners find that the Provari does not fit all situations but still find them very useful.

I honestly wish I would have skipped a whole bunch of other items. I am too poor to buy cheap and life is too short to not like a few things.

Why does it seem you are always trying to poke a stick at Provari users. Part of the way Provari users respond out here is because of the taunts. I also really do think a Provari is the cheap way out.

Sometimes people that get trolled start trolling back and it becomes a big troll fest. When I arrived here I was told not to listen to the Provari users. Actually I would generally rather listen to them so maybe we are trapped in a big unbreakable trolling loop. I hate to say this but a cute girl got me some vaping supplies.

No, the trollet is not who got me vaping supplies. She didn't have to but she wanted to see me off analogs.

 

[EvilZoe]

 

[JJOOHHNN]

Learning to sift through what others are saying and digging for the gems of workable information while not worrying about the chaff is also a feat that must be learned or one will get very upset very often...lol

Fortunately, with a little practice, it's easy to learn to roll with it.

Some of the best bits of information I could never find out here. I had to go an a data search.

 

[EvilZoe]

Some of the best bits of information I could never find out here. I had to go an a data search.

You know what I did? I'd Google what I wanted to know and 98% of the time it brought be back here....lol

The search function on this site sucks (sorry, staff...lol)

 

[JJOOHHNN]

I see a line, or are those closely spaced dots?

 

[JJOOHHNN]

You know what I did? I'd Google what I wanted to know and 98% of the time it brought be back here....lol

The search function on this site sucks (sorry, staff...lol)

I started looking at numbers then started my testing to see if it was suitable.

 

[minimalsaint]

Can't we all just be civil and have a hot dog?



It's cheaper than throwing our devices at each other..... Unless you buy clones.....BA-ZING!
I kid, I kid.

 

[JJOOHHNN]

What happened over and over with me was I would have an ABC when I had described what I was looking for. Then I an XYZ would be highly recommended and it was even further away from what I was looking for. It is frustrating taking a step backwards with each device. Eventually I just started digging and have made fewer bad choices.

 

[EvilZoe]

I see a line, or are those closely spaced dots?

I'm not sure. I posted a video.

Here's the link. Steve Winwood - Roll With It HD - YouTube

 

[JJOOHHNN]

Can't we all just be civil and have a hot dog?

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It's cheaper than throwing our devices at each other..... Unless you buy clones.....BA-ZING!
I kid, I kid.

No it is more expensive to throw clones. You can beat on your desk with a Provari then vape off of it. You can throw a provari into a wall then vape off of it. You can throw a Pravari through the window then vape off of it. You can damage a table with a Provari and vape off it. I have not managed to damage one yet.

 

[EvilZoe]

What happened over and over with me was I would have an ABC when I had described what I was looking for. Then I an XYZ would be highly recommended and it was even further away from what I was looking for. It is frustrating taking a step backwards with each device. Eventually I just started digging and have made fewer bad choices.

Doing your own research will always be the best way to find out information on just about anything.

I don't watch regular news or anything, either. I go out and check out what's being said and independently verify claims. It should be that way with vaping as in all things.

 

[EvilZoe]

No it is more expensive to throw clones. You can beat on your desk with a Provari then vape off of it. You can throw a provari into a well then vape off of it. You can throw a Pravari through the window then vape off of it. You can damage a table with a Provari and vape off it. I have not managed to damage one yet.

Wouldn't it be cheaper to invest in anger management counseling? LOL



j/k

 

[Sgt. Pepper]

Like I have always said, if it keeps you off analogs, it's good. I got the provari when it originally came out and I'm still using it today. There is no right or wrong... it's what works for you. Nite.

 

[JJOOHHNN]

Wouldn't it be cheaper to invest in anger management counseling? LOL



j/k

I normally don't do that. I do that now when I see other peoples questions answered rather than my own.

What I don't ever see in real life is something telling you it is sunny outside when it is raining. I don't see people saying this compound is better than that one with out some basis for it. There is a learning curve here at learning how to read certain things.

These are getter than those.

Have you ever tried those.

No I only use these.

Have you ever measured either these or those.

No, I just know these are better than those.

Then I go off scratching my head in confusion.

 

[minimalsaint]

No it is more expensive to throw clones. You can beat on your desk with a Provari then vape off of it. You can throw a provari into a wall then vape off of it. You can throw a Pravari through the window then vape off of it. You can damage a table with a Provari and vape off it. I have not managed to damage one yet.

It sounds like you speak from experience. The best conclusions are often reached by extensive research and I admire a man of science... Good man. Good man.

 

[patkin]

Okay... I read this whoooole thread (thanks all) and still don't know how Taco Bell does it.

Let's get back OT.

 

[Ryedan]

The fact is, both those devices are good, solid machines for consistent vaping, provided one is using an equally consistent delivery system. You DO save money in the long run after the initial investment, there's no two ways about it. This is true in North America where it might not work as well in Europe if anything WERE to go wrong. While both companies that make the products back them up completely, there is the whole shipping thing that needs to be considered in that situation.

I haven't purchased anything equivalent that is based in Europe or Asia. I don't know about those devices and I wouldn't dismiss them if people loved them. I'm sure they have their reliable workhorses, too, because there's a definite market for them. If I see one that makes me drool I'm likely to buy one just because I'm a dorky magpie collector of vape things that I won't need....lol Other people will buy them because they are awesome and fill THEIR needs. We all have different tastes and our geographical locations can have a profound effect on what makes the most sense to own.

This isn't even going into the special stuff you can do on fancier, sportier devices. That's a whole other animal and the devices in that category range from complete and utter crap to vaping excellence.

One of the things that bothers me on this forum is that people who don't care for devices like the ProVari like to try to pretend that people who love them portray them as the crème de la crème of the vaping world. They're not. They're just wonderfully good at their respective niches that they fill. That's awesome and that's what the "fanboys" of the ProVarinati appreciate about them.

The best way to decide on what will work for you as an individual is to do your own research by checking out the homes of the devices themselves here on ECF and see what the users are saying about them THERE. That's where they will discuss issues they're having and solutions to those issues and everything thing else a prospective owner would need to know.

Don't listen to the people trying to tear something else down when there isn't any need to. Listen to those who are correcting the misinformation and who seem to continue to be happy with their purchases and are STILL happy with them for a significant time after owning them.


Oh, and remember that sometimes someone just spouting out "Get a ProVari" is just joking because the anti-ProVari threads tend to be the most fun after a while...lol

Very well said EvilZoe and I could not agree more . I also think this whole fanboy/fangirl phenomenon involves a small segment of a group, all groups have them, but luckily is not the norm. Can be fun though.

 

[Ryedan]

Okay... I read this whoooole thread (thanks all) and still don't know how Taco Bell does it.

Let's get back OT.

Hmm, be careful what you wish for, it may happen

 

[Fergie]

Hopefully we've learned something here.

 

[danca90]

Conclusion: Reo owners are way more chill.