One would expect the press to spread misinformation. I'd hope our own ECF members would try to get their facts straight.
Nice job passing the buck, though, indieauthor.
Nice job passing the buck, though, indieauthor.
Why I'm fed up with the vape community (mostly)
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Here's the link to the article.... BBC News - Man killed as e-cigarette 'explodes', Merseyside fire service says
Clearly operator negligence.
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There's an issue with people using the wrong charger for pretty much anything that uses an internal, rechargeable battery. That includes cell phones, laptops, etc... It's just that there's less press about a cell phone, although I think I do remember hearing about some recently. I don't think there's any real way to stop it unless manufacturers start creating proprietary charging ports for everything, and even then there will be off market/cloned chargers to contend with I'd imagine. Plus, everyone will be whining that they're charger can only charge the one thing that it came with. People need to be educated on battery safety, period. There are a lot of things people shouldn't be doing with batteries, especially with cell phones. I've been guilty of charging my cell phone with questionable chargers myself before I was aware of the issues with doing so. Never had a problem, and I do believe problems are rare, but never the less.... Funny enough, I didn't learn all these things about batteries until I started vaping and I joined this forum.
Yes, but also negligence on the part of the manufacturer. We need to force manufactures into using safe chemistry cells in ego class devices!
You would only have a 33.3% chance of picking the right charger for a ego.
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I'm not aiming this at you particularly. Well maybe I am...
But I find it just wrong to talk about Darwin 'ruling people out' The man made a mistake that hundreds of people make every day - he used the wrong charger for his electronic device.
That person was somebody's father, brother, husband, friend... who made a small mistake and paid the ultimate price.
And all someone can say is Darwin's theory weeded him out. Ugh...
Yeah, I don't see how Darwinism applies here at all.
It may not have even been the man's fault? It may have been a family member or home healthcare nurse that put the battery on charge for him. It's obvious that he was under care for something like COPD or possibly lung cancer, hence the need for an o2 concentrator.
It may not have even been the man's fault? It may have been a family member or home healthcare nurse that put the battery on charge for him. It's obvious that he was under care for something like COPD or possibly lung cancer, hence the need for an o2 concentrator.
I'm just happy not to be smoking the stinkies anymore! And yes I vape at work but I'm the boss's daughter and it's never in front of customers and yes I vape in my car and at home. But I don't walk around Walmart grocery shopping puffing clouds like a freight train. It's unnecessary and looks stupid if you ask me. I treat this the same way I did when I smoked cigarettes. I shouldn't be offending someone around me they didn't make this choice I did 
I'm not aiming this at you particularly. Well maybe I am...
But I find it just wrong to talk about Darwin 'ruling people out' The man made a mistake that hundreds of people make every day - he used the wrong charger for his electronic device.
That person was somebody's father, brother, husband, friend... who made a small mistake and paid the ultimate price.
And all someone can say is Darwin's theory weeded him out. Ugh...
I agree 100%.
I have never vaped indoors anywhere that smoking wasn't allowed without asking permission to do so. I have also never censored or limited my vaping. If you don't like people chasing clouds in public then that's just, like, your opinion, man. Once permission has been acquired, I vape in public exactly like I do at home. The only time I'd ever consider it rude or inappropriate is if someone doesn't ask permission from the establishment before hand. Does that plus my gauged ears make me a hipster?
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While he's fed with some things and clearly stating it i don't understand why the rant and why does he even poke where he does not belong to or doesn't feel comfortable at?
He doesn't like subohmers, kids, hipsters... probably named ones doesn't like him or find him boring but they don't make new threads about it. Any if you ask me that's rude and a bit childish.
And while he blames them i believe that they are not the issue nor making any problems (at least not the ones that are of any concern) and i do think that vaping in general is the problem as vapers are forcing vaping (way too much) where smoking is not allowed thus making smokers really angry and complaining the most!
His whole post makes 0 sense to me to be honest...
i apologize if i did any harm with my post but it just doesn't feel right and some people just creating new threads/ complaining about everything coz they are utterly bored... IMO
p.s. now i'm going to be rude and point OT to help other new members with real issues instead regarding their equipment, liquids or anything that needs real attention instead of looking for shoulder tap here coz every third thread here on ECF is about nagging.
Sincerely,
Dotrotten
That's a really good point.4. Most people don't realize that to make tons of vapor all you need is the readily available, million purpose glycerin... they can ban everything they want but they can't ban batteries, resistive wires, cotton and glycerin so even if we all die craving for one last, soon to be forbidden, nicotine hit, the cloud chasers will still be around covering our dead bodies in haze and clouds of vapor
Surely a depressive picture but true... cloud chasers might be, in the eyes of some, bad publicity and giving vapers a bad name but... in the end... they are the ones that will survive any ban the FDA/EU will come up with... if you think about it, kinda like cockroaches and a atomic bomb... hum... ok... that was an unfair comparison (but funny hehehe).
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Tony
I'm a bit surprised I'm the only one that liked it so far.
As for the rest of this...
I see a lot of people talking about old people vs. young people.
I see a lot of people talking about fads and trends and what eventually becomes mainstream.
I see people talking about haircuts and motorcycles and tattoos.
What I would like people to do is to remember that this is a bit different from all of that.
This stuff is life and death to some people.
While I agree with you when you said that they shouldn't .... around in public, But I don't think you should Judge how they look, even though sometimes they seem like a bunch of kids who never smoked before, lol But hey thats the beauty of vaping, you can vape how u like!
I'm seeing a lot of people also saying that the cloud chasers are around 1% of the vaping public?
Not so much.
Where I live, it's more like 20% I would say.
And up north of where I live, it could be more like 40% or more.
Maybe it depends on where you live.
But I live in the area of the world that is probably the fastest-growing in terms of vaping.
And here, it's the cloud-chasers that are driving the growth.
Not so much.
Where I live, it's more like 20% I would say.
And up north of where I live, it could be more like 40% or more.
Maybe it depends on where you live.
But I live in the area of the world that is probably the fastest-growing in terms of vaping.
And here, it's the cloud-chasers that are driving the growth.
You forgot to point out that Michael Stipe is gay. It must be lonely way up high on that horse, but at least the view looking down on everyone must be fantastic. And yes, I AM judging you. But not based on your clothing or your hair, on your words. See the difference? Have yourself a great little evening.
To the OP: Damn straight.
This flood of 0.1 Ohming 120 Watting ...... (yes, you legitimately are all ...... if you do that) trying to chase some intangible coolness factor: please get off my lawn.
Clouds have never been cool. They have ALWAYS been inconsiderate. No one else should have to put up with the fumes you put out, cigs or vape. Yes, vape clouds are safer, no, they aren't harmless. Anyone who says that is crazy because bottom line is we do not know.
We speak of 'I only smoke three chemicals vs 599', here's a bit of news for you. Flavouring can contain up to 20 different chemical compounds that no one has any idea how it reacts when vaporized.
Bottom line: I totally agree with you OP. It's inconsiderate, it's stupid, it's unsafe and it hurts the community. You'll see. These ...... will hurt us.
This flood of 0.1 Ohming 120 Watting ...... (yes, you legitimately are all ...... if you do that) trying to chase some intangible coolness factor: please get off my lawn.
Clouds have never been cool. They have ALWAYS been inconsiderate. No one else should have to put up with the fumes you put out, cigs or vape. Yes, vape clouds are safer, no, they aren't harmless. Anyone who says that is crazy because bottom line is we do not know.
We speak of 'I only smoke three chemicals vs 599', here's a bit of news for you. Flavouring can contain up to 20 different chemical compounds that no one has any idea how it reacts when vaporized.
Bottom line: I totally agree with you OP. It's inconsiderate, it's stupid, it's unsafe and it hurts the community. You'll see. These ...... will hurt us.
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