I suggest you read a bit here; ECF's EU Legislation sub-forum. I'm not up on things in Europe as much as I would like to be, but I know changes in ecig regulations have been set in motion in Europe and the changes are not good.
Why I'm fed up with the vape community (mostly)
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I suggest you read a bit here; ECF's EU Legislation sub-forum. I'm not up on things in Europe as much as I would like to be, but I know changes in ecig regulations have been set in motion in Europe and the changes are not good.
Yep already aware of both eu and Westminster moves thankfully taxation with some regulation seems to be most likely outcome ATM.
Quite frankly, you look like a "tard" in this post. My son is a "tard" and I'm offended. You proved your intellect right there in one sentence.
Let LSU have the policy. I attend OSU and they have a policy as well. Nobody knows the long term effects of vape. Not even you, smarty pants. The colleges are just protecting their kids. No harm in that.
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That's another problem vaping has, we might be convinced it's safer and better then cigarettes but there are no solid studies universally accepted saying so yet though many are in progress but more importantly non vapers tend to see it as smoking with all the negatives that implies. Our community whilst generally good is also quite insular and is not getting it's message across to the wider public and that is fuel for all legislative bodies.
lol you do understand we are always going to dislike what them damn kids are doing...remember when you were a kid and when old people hated the things you did.
im in this to stay off cigs. i believe all the fda stuff is influenced by big tobacco loosing their asses not for some kids blowing clouds of vapor. some sheeple will just follow and not act....so just relax take a puff or two
im in this to stay off cigs. i believe all the fda stuff is influenced by big tobacco loosing their asses not for some kids blowing clouds of vapor. some sheeple will just follow and not act....so just relax take a puff or two
Public opinion is like legislative lube. Makes it easier to take away one minorities' freedoms at a time. Apply enough and the public will beg for bans. They may even think it's their own idea. Hegelian Maneuvering 101.
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Im not sure how to process the OP's opening statements in this thread.
My vaping has evolved from egos, to a vamo, to a mechanical. From ce4s, to protanks, to kayfuns, to drippers. My ohms have went from 2.2 to .2.
Why? Because its better. Every step was an improvement over the last. 24ga just vapes better than 32ga, but the ohms go down because its thicker, so what?
While some of us vapers crave attention, many more are just looking for a satisfying vape.
BTW, .7 ohm is not outrageous.
My vaping has evolved from egos, to a vamo, to a mechanical. From ce4s, to protanks, to kayfuns, to drippers. My ohms have went from 2.2 to .2.
Why? Because its better. Every step was an improvement over the last. 24ga just vapes better than 32ga, but the ohms go down because its thicker, so what?
While some of us vapers crave attention, many more are just looking for a satisfying vape.
BTW, .7 ohm is not outrageous.
Well said - as long as I'm happy with my vape I could care less what cloud chasers and others think.
I can cloud chase if I want to impress someone, but I'm mostly in this to stay off tobacco and cut costs. A bag of Koh Gen Do cotton and a spool of 28GA kanthal and buying juice in bulk is much tastier, cheaper, and healthier then tobacco. I can actually breathe now and don't need an inhaler. I feel like I'm winning. I don't care what others think.
I've bumped into quite a few of the OP's posts and I like them. Why? Because he likes to stir things up a bit and that's often fun to read. 
Vaping just works. Getting too hung up about the way it's done is not seeing the wood for the trees imho. The vape that works for you is the best. It may well not work so well for someone else.
Vaping just works. Getting too hung up about the way it's done is not seeing the wood for the trees imho. The vape that works for you is the best. It may well not work so well for someone else.
I have sort of come to accept that people will do dumb things. There's no point getting in a huff about it.
I was trying to educate someone on Instagram who was claiming their batteries were pushing 150A through a .07 ohm coil (uh, that's like a couple thousand watts buddy). For me, vaping isn't about clouds and stuff (though I do like my clouds), it's a smoking cessation technique. One that actually works, unlike gum or nicotine patches or whatever.
So yeah. It's about not smoking, not blowing large clouds. It's not a contest. It's not a competition. It is a hobby, but this isn't a game, and there's nothing to win. There will be people who will never understand that, and there's nothing anyone can do about it.
Also the vocal minority is a big thing in the vape community. The people you most often see are the extreme cases of idiotic and excessive sub-ohming. The people you don't often see are the ones who have used vaping to quit cigarettes. The mature people (not even necessarily "old people", I'm a youngin' myself at 23 years) will do it right, and the immature idiots will continue to do it wrong. If people don't want to learn about proper safety, then they're flat-out dumb, and if someone is refusing to accept knowledge, there's nothing really you can do about it but move on and hope they don't ruin vaping for the rest of us.
I was trying to educate someone on Instagram who was claiming their batteries were pushing 150A through a .07 ohm coil (uh, that's like a couple thousand watts buddy). For me, vaping isn't about clouds and stuff (though I do like my clouds), it's a smoking cessation technique. One that actually works, unlike gum or nicotine patches or whatever.
So yeah. It's about not smoking, not blowing large clouds. It's not a contest. It's not a competition. It is a hobby, but this isn't a game, and there's nothing to win. There will be people who will never understand that, and there's nothing anyone can do about it.
Also the vocal minority is a big thing in the vape community. The people you most often see are the extreme cases of idiotic and excessive sub-ohming. The people you don't often see are the ones who have used vaping to quit cigarettes. The mature people (not even necessarily "old people", I'm a youngin' myself at 23 years) will do it right, and the immature idiots will continue to do it wrong. If people don't want to learn about proper safety, then they're flat-out dumb, and if someone is refusing to accept knowledge, there's nothing really you can do about it but move on and hope they don't ruin vaping for the rest of us.
My post was essentially a long-winded version of this.
Post more videos of silly Variant experiments! Lol.
Actually OP, I agree with you to an extent. While I enjoy rebuilding and occasionally cloud chasing, I typically do it inside my own home. I hate going into public and blowing huge clouds because it's distracting and brings a negative image to the community. The idea behind electronic cigarettes is to use them as a nicotine delivery system to ween yourself off cigarettes, but it's transitioning to a hobby for non smokers. Which is fine, but they have to learn to restrict themselves in order to not increase support of legislation that could ban/regulate vaping. I wait tables part time, and I'm completely fine with patrons vaping inside as long as they aren't overly distracting or obnoxious about it.
I haven't had time to read the whole thread yet, but giving my opinion anyway. I mostly agree with the OP. except I am old and have tattoos lol.
I don't care what people do, but I do care if it affects me and I feel this cloud chasing is going to affect the regulations. I wish the cloud chasing hadn't started til all the govern. threats to our vaping freedom were settled. and I feel like the cloud chasing is making vaping look bad.
there is a restaurant I go to that I used to vape in at my table (discretely). last time I went there was a big no ecigs sign on the door. I asked about it. they had to ban it because some people came in, blew big clouds and they got lots of complaints. so it was the cloud chasing that got vaping banned from that restaurant thanks so much
I don't care what people do, but I do care if it affects me and I feel this cloud chasing is going to affect the regulations. I wish the cloud chasing hadn't started til all the govern. threats to our vaping freedom were settled. and I feel like the cloud chasing is making vaping look bad.
there is a restaurant I go to that I used to vape in at my table (discretely). last time I went there was a big no ecigs sign on the door. I asked about it. they had to ban it because some people came in, blew big clouds and they got lots of complaints. so it was the cloud chasing that got vaping banned from that restaurant
thanks so much 
Pitty the general public isn't educated about e-cigs or the owner could put up a sign like : "No sub-ohming allowed"I haven't had time to read the whole thread yet, but giving my opinion anyway. I mostly agree with the OP. except I am old and have tattoos lol.
I don't care what people do, but I do care if it affects me and I feel this cloud chasing is going to affect the regulations. I wish the cloud chasing hadn't started til all the govern. threats to our vaping freedom were settled. and I feel like the cloud chasing is making vaping look bad.
there is a restaurant I go to that I used to vape in at my table (discretely). last time I went there was a big no ecigs sign on the door. I asked about it. they had to ban it because some people came in, blew big clouds and they got lots of complaints. so it was the cloud chasing that got vaping banned from that restaurant
Which would be much better targeted at cloud chasers even though I must admit that the clouds my 1.3 Ohm setup is producing are too much even for me. I have to swallow my vape for quite some time to keep it discreet in a restaurant...
Hmm... Maybe a Watt limit sign would be more appropriate? Like < 10w?
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Tony
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Pitty the general public isn't educated about e-cigs or the owner could put up a sign like : "No sub-ohming allowed"
Which would be much better targeted at cloud chasers even though I must admit that the clouds my 1.3 Ohm setup is producing are too much even for me. I have to swallow my vape for quite some time to keep it discreet in a restaurant...
Hmm... Maybe a Watt limit sign would be more appropriate? Like < 10w?
Regards
Tony
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A general "Don't be a rear end opening"-sign should do
Gotta have the biggest clouds availible. I want my van to look like the van in up in smoke as I roll through town. It's my right to vape. Lol
Not gonna lie, it is quite fun rolling down the windows and having a plume of vapor pour out. People always look at you. I even had someone on the street yell at me, "Hey buddy I think your car's on fire!"
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