Why lower Nicotine level?
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I sometimes think ECF should be divided into two forums--one for those of us who enjoy vaping and appreciate the use of nicotine, and another for those who detest and fear its use. The second group would then be free to lobby the FDA to completely ban nic in vape liquids. For myself, I plan to continue to use demon nicotine as I vape since I recognize the positive effects it has on me.
I think you guys & Girls taking me the wrong way. I am not bashing Nicotine I just want to see the truth.
Nicotine and Smoking go together, Nicotine and Vaping not so much.
I mean how many smokers you know smoke nicotine free analogs?
Now Vaping, (which I have no plans to stop nor have any plans to go 0mg any time soon),
the individual has the choice on how much if any Nicotine they have.
And choice, that is something I never had before.
People say the CDC and the FDA lies, well that's their choice, and they always will get caught if they do.
I just would like to see and know the truth. I don't care about Nicotine in analogs, chew, or potatoes,
I just want to know the facts on Nicotine in Vaping,
so when someone new ask me I know what I tell them is the truth.
Nicotine and Smoking go together, Nicotine and Vaping not so much.
I mean how many smokers you know smoke nicotine free analogs?
Now Vaping, (which I have no plans to stop nor have any plans to go 0mg any time soon),
the individual has the choice on how much if any Nicotine they have.
And choice, that is something I never had before.
People say the CDC and the FDA lies, well that's their choice, and they always will get caught if they do.
I just would like to see and know the truth. I don't care about Nicotine in analogs, chew, or potatoes,
I just want to know the facts on Nicotine in Vaping,
so when someone new ask me I know what I tell them is the truth.
There is over 30 years worth of data on nicotine use via snus in Sweden.
I'm sure the CASAA website has links to some of the studies.
Trust them? No, not just no but hell no.
The Surprising Health Benefits of Nicotine | The Dangerous Lee News & Entertainment Network
Like you, I'm interested in finding out the truth.
Why does it need to be either or. Nicotine has some beneficial effects, it is most likely not dangerous in the amounts we get into our bodies through vaping, but in pretending that it is completely harmless one is just fooling oneself. Claiming that it is completely harmless is worse, it's irresponsible. Even water will kill in large enough doses, but nicotine will kill in far smaller doses and there is good reason to take care with the liquids we use (not ingesting them, leaving them accessible to children and pets, offering them as drinks to inebriated friends). That doesn't mean that I think that nic should be regulated any more than other highly toxic substances such as those used for cleaning, but we shouldn't deny the potential dangers either. Everything in moderation, as I wrote earlier, and a moderate stance on this issue seems rational as well.
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Trust them? No, not just no but hell no.
The Surprising Health Benefits of Nicotine | The Dangerous Lee News & Entertainment Network
Like you, I'm interested in finding out the truth.
Now that is some good reading
Thank You
I enjoyed smoking. I enjoy vaping. But I do not want to be dependent on any substance "caffeine how I love and loathe you". I started at 36mg now I'm down to 12mg I want to take the next step after the holidays. The coffee and soda are next lol.
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Try doing some research before touting the CDC as the source of non-biased information. This is just one of several sources on the how the CDC lied and misrepresented their own survey:
CDC Belatedly Reveals That Smoking by Teenagers Dropped While Vaping Rose - Hit & Run : Reason.com
You mean This?
Harmless Nicotine
Yea it's so harmless that the CDC set up a Emergency Response plan
CDC - The Emergency Response Safety and Health Database: Systemic Agent: NICOTINE - NIOSH
Make sure you scroll down to the Signs/Symptoms part, That's some good reading there.
I think I would listen to the CDC over Yahoo but that's just me
Me saying I would listen to the CDC over Yahoo is "Touting the CDC as the source of non-biased information"
Really that's how you took that huh?
The point I was trying to make there was that Nicotine isn't as safe as some of these websites make it out to be.
And another thing is, anyone that is thinking of DIY juices should read that just for the little stuff like why they should wear rubber gloves and what to do if you get some in your eye.
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Well there would need to be a third group for people who accept it because they are addicted to it.
We could call it the Stockholm Syndrome Forum.
We could call it the Stockholm Syndrome Forum.
OK, WHICH men would be willing to have their uhhhhhhhhhh you know what's MEASURED in a lab??????????
this.
AND I might add that for certain people with certain conditions,,,,,,,,,,it might be good,,,,,or it might be bad.
It's not the same for everyone.
Harmless Nicotine
Yea it's so harmless that the CDC set up a Emergency Response plan
CDC - The Emergency Response Safety and Health Database: Systemic Agent: NICOTINE - NIOSH
Make sure you scroll down to the Signs/Symptoms part, That's some good reading there.
I think I would listen to the CDC over Yahoo but that's just me
Yep, pure nic is a strong poison. Good reason to be careful when DIY and using high concentrations. Notice all the info about safe handling of this substance in the CDC article. They are not talking about our vaping dosages.
Oh, and just as food for thought when trusting CDC over google or yahoo: understanding what you read is your (generic term, not you personally) responsibility. Research the source, look up the stuff you don't understand and, never forget that the CDC also has a preparedness plan for a Zombie invasion. Look it up!
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