Why ProVari?

[Fury83]

You want to talk bacon? We have a German butcher here who takes only the finest organic feed local livestock, smokes it himself with the wood of your choice and slices it to the thickness of your choosing. Yes it costs a fortune but like no other.

It's so good that you forget you have eggs cooking.

I like to buy a pork belly and make my own

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[Sector000]

No, they don't. Clutches will always beat torque converters in every objective measure. Even the "nice" automatic transmissions you're thinking of from race cars and expensive sports cars are manuals operated by a computer.

They have literally zero advantages beyond laziness. And as someone who's spent the last several years driving 20,000+ miles in Atlanta traffic with a stick, I have zero sympathy. I'd never switch to autos.

There is no reasoning with you.

So far, you have given us these nonsense:

Speedometers are useless.
Thermostats are useless.
Even ON/OFF switches are useless.
And now, automatic transmissions are useless.

That's just nonsense.

Just because it's not your preference doesn't make it useless. I'll even grant you that every manual always outperform every automatic. Even then, automatics still have advantages. Automatics are convenient, although there's usually some trade-offs in performance and reliability. Trade-offs are a reality with most things. Just because it doesn't have a performance advantage doesn't mean it's useless.

My main car is a 5-speed Mustang GT, but I don't think all other cars suck. I own 2 other cars, both automatic. They work just fine. When driving my Mustang, there are many times when I wish my right hand is completely free to, oh you know, maybe vape or maybe sip some coffee?

 

[platinum321]

Mmmmmmmm BACON!

 

[Fury83]

Nobody thinks all other pv's suck.

We can all agree turkey is bacon is not real bacon.

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[platinum321]

And Furry pure maple syrup is the only syrup. Cook my bacon with it. Mmmmmmm. Bacon me loves it.

 

[bfrie]

Nobody thinks all other pv's suck.

We can all agree turkey is bacon is not real bacon.

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Tofu/soy bacon isn't too bad either, but it's still not quite as good as the real thing

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[Chikenbok]

Dirty dirty meat eaters junking up the thread with your bacon talk. Aren't we supposed to be talking about guns and motorcycles and fast cars?

 

[bfrie]

Dirty dirty meat eaters junking up the thread with your bacon talk. Aren't we supposed to be talking about guns and motorcycles and fast cars?

Everyone can agree on bacon. Cars will cause a new fight. So basically, bacon is God

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[DkGanz]

There really is no arguing about bacon. Unless its the last piece.

 

[It's Only Me]

I like to buy a pork belly and make my own

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Way to go. Not everybody can do that. It must be great.

 

[EddardinWinter]

Dirty dirty meat eaters junking up the thread with your bacon talk. Aren't we supposed to be talking about guns and motorcycles and fast cars?

What do you expect from a lion? A discussion of cucumbers and carrots?

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[EddardinWinter]

Way to go. Not everybody can do that. It must be great.

Do you think he is sayin' "pork bellies are the ONLY way to make bacon, those of you buying it pre-sliced are posers and wannabes?"

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[mostapha]

When driving my Mustang, there are many times when I wish my right hand is completely free to, oh you know, maybe vape or maybe sip some coffee?

Why the are you leaving your hand on the shifter? L2Drive.

 

[mostapha]

Dirty dirty meat eaters junking up the thread with your bacon talk. Aren't we supposed to be talking about guns and motorcycles and fast cars?

Sure. But what's wrong with meat?

Also, were you the Ducati guy? I can't be fussed to search. Any recommendations for a first bike? I obivously don't want to kill myself, but I also don't want the same ninja 250 everyone gets, mostly because kawasakis always sound like they're broken to me.

 

[bfrie]

Sure. But what's wrong with meat?

Also, were you the Ducati guy? I can't be fussed to search. Any recommendations for a first bike? I obivously don't want to kill myself, but I also don't want the same ninja 250 everyone gets, mostly because kawasakis always sound like they're broken to me.

JUst do the ninja. 3 months later you sell it and upgrade anyway, it's just the best way to get into bikes without dying

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[mostapha]

JUst do the ninja. 3 months later you sell it and upgrade anyway, it's just the best way to get into bikes without dying

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Not some other comparable. Honda and Suzuki both make similar displacement & power bikes, they're just a little more expensive. What is it about the ninja that everyone likes, just that there are so many of them around?

Also, man, these last couple pages have made me want Bacon, but I'm really busy today (obviously not right now). Looks like it's off to Wendy's for a 1500 calorie lunch.

 

[Chikenbok]

No No No NO No No NO No.

I'm the Ducati guy. Also a vegetarian. Also a professor of philosophy. Also a registered MMA fighter in 7 states. I don't want to get into ethics of the meat industry but I'd love to talk about bikes.

If you want to get a nice solid started bike pick from any of the 650's out there (assuming you want a sports bike and not a chopper). You will outgrow a 250 in under a month. You should however, and I assume you do, have some experience riding, have a license, and have taken a few courses on emergency this that and the other thing.

Don't pay a lot for your first bike, you're going to drop it, and you're probably going to get hurt. I took my first, AND second bike down -- the second one went down at 75kph into a clock tower, still have the rash from that (oh, and dude, wear a helmet and full gear, seriously - its hot and lame sometimes but it'll save yer life). You can grab a used Japanese 650 for under 5 grand, just make sure the frame is straight and you're set. Milage is generally completely irrelevant. In regards to 650's - my list goes something like this, from best to worse:

Suzuki GSX-r
Kawasaki ZR600
Yamaha R6
Honda whatever.

The power/torque curve on the gixxer is the best hands down, while you will get a bit better stock suspension and handling off of the kawi. Remember that even a 650 will take you from 0-60 in under 3.5 seconds. Be safe and ride hard man. If you've got any more questions I have literally owned EVERY sports bike produced in the last 10 years, just holler.

 

[bfrie]

People get the ninja because their is so many used out there and they don't want to think to hard about their training bike that they will upgrade from within 3 months

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[hellcat]

I don't own an eVic or or a provari but I will say after seeing both and trying out someone else's eVic, I wasn't too impressed with the build quality. The tube feels very chinsy to me and it has too many functions that in my opinion are unnecessary. I do like upgradeable firmware but really all I need is a pv that I can count on. I have never bought any high end mods but if I did I would buy high end mech just because less can go wrong. We are talking about electronics which no matter how much we want them to, don't always last forever. If I can get a year or two out of a $40 device, I am cool with that. There is still no garauntee that a high end mod will last 4-5 years to make up the price plunge. With the ecig market constantly changing I was really hoping to see a drop in price on the provari just to keep things competitive. I guess they haven't seen that much of a drop in sales to make it worth their while?
I bought a silver bullet kit about 4 years ago for around 100 bucks shipped I think? I wish I could say it was performing the way it did back then. Even with brand new 3100mAH batteries, and a fresh atty, am getting virtually nothing out of it. I would have to be really impressed to spend that much on a pv mech or not to drop that much on a single item again. Or maybe I have just had flukes and been unfortunate with the devices I have recieved? who knows, but that's my take on it.

 

[Fury83]

Way to go. Not everybody can do that. It must be great.

It's actually pretty simple and it is great.

Also a registered MMA fighter in 7 states.

Just not NY

Do you think he is sayin' "pork bellies are the ONLY way to make bacon, those of you buying it pre-sliced are posers and wannabes?"

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I hope nobody thinks that. It's an enjoyable thing to do and the product is good but I still grab it at the supermarket too.