Why so many Pro/Zap combos for sale?

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LV SuzyQ

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Yes I do. But if it works for you and keeps you off analogs, then its perfectly fine.

Please don't just give me this generic answer and tell me why! Is the vape that much better on mechanical mods? Is it for the looks? Is it just moving on to the newest and latest? Is it status symbol?
 

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There's a limitation when using VV/VW device, namely the maximum amperes/wattage that they can dish out.

When using a Provari, you would be getting E1 and E2 error codes when you hit that limit. There is no limitation when using a mech mod coupled with an RBA so you could hit higher than the usual 15watts max from a VV/VW device.

I'm just summarizing the idea behind the mech mod/rba thing for you, there's way more to it than that.

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an archaic combo?.......lol, far from it......

See, the advanced ecig world moves in stages or waves........some will say they have moved on or up to a good mechanical mod, well, mechanical mods were there long before all these crazy regulated mods. So, technically you could consider mechanical mods to be archaic....

Mechanical mods and hybrids are just whats super popular right now.....and for good reason. As people advance and become really good at rebuildables the desire for the highest possible level of performance starts to become primary and mechanicals don't sadlle you with amp limitations and error codes and stuff. However, with this performance comes the cost not having a regulated power output, ability to fine tune voltage, monitor battery life and so on.....

so, point is LV SuzyQ, don't mistake people selling the Pro/Zap combos off as them thinking it a archaic or lesser device(s)......there are just a lot of big time mechanicals mods out there that folks are trying to get.

very few things will beat my Provari and ZAP and I have a lot of different devices......check the sig.. ;)
 

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There's a limitation when using VV/VW device, namely the maximum amperes/wattage that they can dish out.

When using a Provari, you would be getting E1 and E2 error codes when you hit that limit. There is no limitation when using a mech mod coupled with an RBA so you could hit higher than the usual 15watts max from a VV/VW device.

I'm just summarizing the idea behind the mech mod/rba thing for you, there's way more to it than that.

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This!

And because you have the ability to control your vape to the point it surpasses the limitations of a Provari. I will still keep one around.....but it will continue to collect dust.
 

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I sold my ZAP because I have two provari's and a few high end mechanicals, I could only use my ZAP on a Provari where as everything else can be switched around. Wonderful little prorings give me that ZAP look with my other RBA's now, so I sold the unitasker.

It's not an archaic combo, if I only had a Provari, I would have kept it. I vape at 7-9 watts so I don't have any sort of issue like that driving me.
 

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There was a time way back that I used to ask the same question...........who the hell need 15 watts...

Then I got into the better rebuildables and then hybrids.........

Something about a 28g wire .8ohm coil on a mechanical is just awesome!!!!Huge, quick vapor......this setup can't be run on just about any regulated mod.
 

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What I'm trying to understand is can you get that much of a different and better vape from a mechanical mod/RBA v my Provari/cartotank? Because I am willing to learn.. I used to be a gemologist so I'm okay tinkering with small stuff.. Is it super hard? Is it worth the time and effort? Or do you do it cause its fun and a hobby?
 

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What I'm trying to understand is can you get that much of a different and better vape from a mechanical mod/RBA v my Provari/cartotank? Because I am willing to learn.. I used to be a gemologist so I'm okay tinkering with small stuff.. Is it super hard? Is it worth the time and effort? Or do you do it cause its fun and a hobby?

You can get more power
 

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I dont have either a mech or Provari yet - I want both

But from what i understand a provari wont fire a coil under .9 oHm (some say .8), The mech wont care. The provari wont fire a short coil, the mech will.
ZattyPro cant be used with all other devices
I dont think i have to say all the great things about provari/ we all know those!
I think both devices are great, and useful. Id rather have one of each, then two of one of them.
 
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I used a provari with a carto tank for close to a year. Got myself a genesis rba and wondered what the fuss was all about.

When I got myself a mech mod, then only I realized what I was missing. The genesis shines when it is set at low resistance and coupled with a mech mod. Even though it is firing up at high wattages, I don't get the burnt flavors that I get when I couple it with the provari and I get plumes of vapor as well.

That being said, a provari with a silica rba (the spheroid) is still one of my favourite combos.

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I sold my ZAP because I have two provari's and a few high end mechanicals, I could only use my ZAP on a Provari where as everything else can be switched around. Wonderful little prorings give me that ZAP look with my other RBA's now, so I sold the unitasker.

It's not an archaic combo, if I only had a Provari, I would have kept it. I vape at 7-9 watts so I don't have any sort of issue like that driving me.

Are you trying to blow your head off?:confused:

Nope just answering the question. I generally don't wrap my coils below 1.8ohm.
 

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Please don't just give me this generic answer and tell me why! Is the vape that much better on mechanical mods? Is it for the looks? Is it just moving on to the newest and latest? Is it status symbol?
I don't believe anyone buys a RBA strictly on looks. Well, maybe the ZAP for the Provari, but it was specifically designed for the Provari from the start.

People buy rebuildables because they can customize their devices and their vape to suit their needs. I find these people to be very particular about the quality of their vape, and that they are willing to tinker and adjust and fiddle until they find the right combination of materials and techniques that it finally comes together for them.

I was intimidated by the rebuildables. I was (and am still) quite satisfied with my cartotanks. I'm not a tinkerer, I like things to work out the box. However, I did want to find out what all the fuss was for myself. I did some research and followed the action from way back in the of the room so to speak. Finally I decided I was ready to get my feet wet and got the AGA T+ for $30. I figured I could take my time, work on it in my spare time, and see how difficult it really is. I would always have my cartotanks as my primary vape, and if for some reason if I found that a Genesis rebuildable was not for me, I was only out some $30. I've spent more than that on a drip tip before.

Yes, you need to do your homework. They don't work out of the box. I can wrap a pretty decent coil, I think I get that part. Rolling the stainless steel wick is what I have trouble with. However, pre-rolled wicks are available and I got a few to try out.

My current wick and coil is making plenty of vapor but the flavor is not up to the standard of my cartotanks yet. I have a hunch that I may have over-oxidized my wick and that is affecting flavor production.

With your next vaping purchase, instead of buying another cartotank, juice, or whatever, why not buy an AGA T+ or another similarly priced Genesis RBA? I'm not to the point that I'm convinced that they will completely take over from my cartotanks as my preferred delivery device, but I'm still in the learning phase myself.

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I use my AGA on both my Provari and on my mechanical Silver Bullet. I prefer using the Silver Bullet because, quite frankly, since I began using variable voltage devices the Bullet was collecting dust. Having an RBA has given a new use and life to the Silver Bullet.
 
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