Why you shouldn't CHAIN vape

[beckdg]

i lung hit, sub ohm and chain vape @ 36mg/ml all day every day. on a slow day, i consume over 200mg of nicotine.

but my nicotine tolerance is very high. has been for years. what i do just to keep mellowed would send some folks to the hospital nauseated and having panic attacks.

to put that into perspective 9ml of 18mg/ml comes out to 162mg of nicotine.

but i also know my limits and hydrate very well.

it's all a matter of perspective and what works for each person. we're all different. you have to find what works for you. my dad for example will be nauseous and light headed from just one mouth to lung inhale from my setup.

 

[Purplepeeps]

Purplepeeps failed attempt at vaping like beckdg:

 

[Storemyace]

I'm not trying to make e-cigs look bad or anything, I'm just saying that you should limit yourself if you start to get these symptoms. Like almost everything you consume there is a limit to which you should stop and hold back for a bit.

 

[chunkystan]

if I was vaping 9ml a day I'd be quite concerned as to what damage I am doing to my wallet!

 

[patkin]

I've now read two other threads you started... three in all this morning On one of them you said you vape 18mgs and were having problems but you didn't say you were chaining in your OP. I replied that that's pretty high if chain vaping. On this thread: Its not chain vaping that's the problem, its the high nic you're using while doing so. On the other thread you said that the use of SNUS causes cancer. I left a link for you on that thread showing that to be disinformation. If you haven't seen it, its the same thread you put your graphic on saying TOBACCO (not its smoke) kills. (something like that) and backed the fact up with WHO... remember?

 

[MissBlue]

The key is paying attention

and really, that's the only point here.

these kinds of thread titles annoy me. Nobody can tell anybody else why they should or should not be doing ... it's foolish to tell anyone else why "they" "shouldn't" XYZ, just because the OP had some issue or problem when THEY did it.

apologies in advance for perhaps sounding harsh - but just cause THEY did not pay attention, is not reasonable cause for them to then go and "warn" anyone else about anything. It's obvious that you must learn about what you are taking into your body BEFORE you do it, and what possible reactions you might have, in advance -

In this case it's not the chain vaping itself that was the problem, it's a lack of attention given to learning about the activity before beginning it, that caused problems. It's the nicotine level and how much juice being plowed through, that gave the side effects. So the whole thread title is just wrong in the first place.

I do chain vape, without any problems at all. When i'm home in front of the tv or computer it's the only thing that keeps me from chain smoking - and i have zero side effects or issues. why? Because I did a TON of research before i began this. I learned about nicotine levels, researched what amount of nic I was getting before with the type of cigs i smoked, learned about e-juice and how the nic is delivered to the body from vaping, how that is different from the way it's absorbed with inhaling a cig, did some calculations .... so i could make an informed decision about what nic level to vape at -- which for me, is 3 and 6 ... nic levels low enough that chain vaping isn't likely to cause problems.

It's not rocket science, i'm not smarter than anyone else - all i did was pay attention.

So it's not accurate to be telling anyone: '"Why you shouldn't chain vape". Chain vaping, itself, is not a problem. What happened to you was due to how you went about it, and is why YOU shouldn't have been chain vaping -- but for the rest of us, that's Captain Obvious talking.

you should limit yourself if you start to get these symptoms. Like almost everything you consume there is a limit to which you should stop and hold back for a bit.

um, yah, no kidding. Captain Obvious strikes again!!

 

[patkin]

^100% agree... that's exactly how disinformation gets started.

 

[Purplepeeps]

I'm not trying to make e-cigs look bad or anything, I'm just saying that you should limit yourself if you start to get these symptoms. Like almost everything you consume there is a limit to which you should stop and hold back for a bit.

You must first practice what you preach!

 

[Storemyace]

I've now read two other threads you started... three in all this morning On one of them you said you vape 18mgs and were having problems but you didn't say you were chaining in your OP. I replied that that's pretty high if chain vaping. On this thread: Its not chain vaping that's the problem, its the high nic you're using while doing so. On the other thread you said that the use of SNUS causes cancer. I left a link for you on that thread showing that to be disinformation. If you haven't seen it, its the same thread you put your graphic on saying TOBACCO (not its smoke) kills. (something like that) and backed the fact up with WHO... remember?

I thought it would be obvious that I was chain vaping with a higher dose of nic, apparently not so? Tobacco does kill don't be ridiculous my friend, just because the government is going haywire with the whole e-cig/liquid doesn't mean you should discredit everything including research that has to do with tobacco. Chewing tobacco has over 28 cancer-producing chemicals have been identified in smokeless tobacco. Someone seems a little sensitive when it comes to talking about the side effects of vaping....

http://www.health.gov.sk.ca/smokless-tobacco-ingredients

 

[Anjaffm]

^100% agree... that's exactly how disinformation gets started.

I second that.
And excellent posting, MissBlue!

 

[patkin]

LOL.. too funny... not "sensitive" at all... been at this way too long for that.... just very aware. On the issue you raise... rebuttable would be a waste of my time so I'll pass. Those who wish to research it will do so.

 

[Purplepeeps]

Op, you have to decide if it's right for you to continue vaping as you are. If you're having such difficulties, perhaps you should back off, like you suggest to others.

Best of luck

 

[Storemyace]

and really, that's the only point here.

these kinds of thread titles annoy me. Nobody can tell anybody else why they should or should not be doing ... it's foolish to tell anyone else why "they" "shouldn't" XYZ, just because the OP had some issue or problem when THEY did it.

apologies in advance for perhaps sounding harsh - but just cause THEY did not pay attention, is not reasonable cause for them to then go and "warn" anyone else about anything. It's obvious that you must learn about what you are taking into your body BEFORE you do it, and what possible reactions you might have, in advance -

In this case it's not the chain vaping itself that was the problem, it's a lack of attention given to learning about the activity before beginning it, that caused problems. It's the nicotine level and how much juice being plowed through, that gave the side effects. So the whole thread title is just wrong in the first place.

I do chain vape, without any problems at all. When i'm home in front of the tv or computer it's the only thing that keeps me from chain smoking - and i have zero side effects or issues. why? Because I did a TON of research before i began this. I learned about nicotine levels, researched what amount of nic I was getting before with the type of cigs i smoked, learned about e-juice and how the nic is delivered to the body from vaping, how that is different from the way it's absorbed with inhaling a cig, did some calculations .... so i could make an informed decision about what nic level to vape at -- which for me, is 3 and 6 ... nic levels low enough that chain vaping isn't likely to cause problems.

It's not rocket science, i'm not smarter than anyone else - all i did was pay attention.

So it's not accurate to be telling anyone: '"Why you shouldn't chain vape". Chain vaping, itself, is not a problem. What happened to you was due to how you went about it, and is why YOU shouldn't have been chain vaping -- but for the rest of us, that's Captain Obvious talking.


um, yah, no kidding. Captain Obvious strikes again!!

It may seem obvious to you and others, but apparently it wasn't obvious to myself. I never knew one could OD via nicotine until I started feeling these symptoms. Although I did learn my lesson to not chain vape with high doses (although I haven't tried chaining vaping with low doses yet). Speak for one, not for all.

 

[Anjaffm]

Ok, now the OP lets the cat out of the bag.

Oral tobacco does not significantly increase the risk of cancer
FAQ: Health Effects (tobaccoharmreduction.org)

Same with Snus
http://www.estoc.org/uploads/Documents/documents/Snus -- Oral Cancer Dec 2010 (with references).pdf

And I most certainly hope that OP is aware of the fact that the American Cancer Society - who has been trying its best to frighten smokers away from switching to smokeless tobacco as a means of harm reduction - receives a lot of money from Big Pharma - the makers of "clean" nicotine products

After this, I will follow patkin out the door.

 

[MissBlue]

I thought it would be obvious that I was chain vaping with a higher dose of nic, apparently not so? Tobacco does kill don't be ridiculous my friend, just because the government is going haywire with the whole e-cig/liquid doesn't mean you should discredit everything including research that has to do with tobacco. Chewing tobacco has over 28 cancer-producing chemicals have been identified in smokeless tobacco. Someone seems a little sensitive when it comes to talking about the side effects of vaping....

BLERK. No. what people are sensitive to, is you conflating your own personal lack of information experience with "telling others what to do" - the only reason you had side effects was because of your OWN lack of information, and your OWN unwise actions.

the point is that IF YOU PAY ATTENTION, there will BE NO side effects.

you cannot "blame" it on the vaping - it's not "the vaping" that causes side effects - it's what each individual person DOES with it.

If you pay attention and do what's right for your body, you have NO side effects - that's each person's own personal responsibility.

duuuhhhhhh

 

[Storemyace]

Ok, now the OP lets the cat out of the bag.

Oral tobacco does not significantly increase the risk of cancer
FAQ: Health Effects (tobaccoharmreduction.org)

Same with Snus
http://www.estoc.org/uploads/Documents/documents/Snus -- Oral Cancer Dec 2010 (with references).pdf

And I most certainly hope that OP is aware of the fact that the American Cancer Society - who has been trying its best to frighten smokers away from switching to smokeless tobacco as a means of harm reduction - receives a lot of money from Big Pharma - the makers of "clean" nicotine products

After this, I will follow patkin out the door.

They also receive big money for cancer treatment, so looks like we'll have to agree to disagree.

 

[sneakerpimp]

It may seem obvious to you and others, but apparently it wasn't obvious to myself. I never knew one could OD via nicotine until I started feeling these symptoms. Although I did learn my lesson to not chain vape with high doses (although I haven't tried chaining vaping with low doses yet). Speak for one, not for all.

not hard to figure out.. or do you chug whiskey like you do beer??

 

[Storemyace]

BLERK. No. what people are sensitive to, is you conflating your own personal lack of information experience with "telling others what to do" - the only reason you had side effects was because of your OWN lack of information, and your OWN unwise actions.

the point is that IF YOU PAY ATTENTION, there will BE NO side effects.

you cannot "blame" it on the vaping - it's not "the vaping" that causes side effects - it's what each individual person DOES with it.

If you pay attention and do what's right for your body, you have NO side effects.

duuuhhhhhh

I'm not blaming it on vaping. I'm blaming it on vaping too much at a high dosage of nic.

 

[GaG8tor]

I had all of those symptoms before I started vaping.

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[Storemyace]

not hard to figure out.. or do you chug whiskey like you do beer??

In my head at the time, I never even thought nicotine could give any side negative effects, I'm sure I'm not the first and won't be the last being a newbie.