Worried about e-liquid
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buy liquids from vendors and brands that disclose their ingredients.
This is actually a case where Chinese companies are often better, like Dekang and Hangsen. Some American companies are taking LorAnn food flavorings and adding them to some nic base and selling it, even though not all food additives are safe to vape. There's about three food additives that are absolutely unsafe to vape (all butter flavors), and about a half dozen more that are problematic.
This is actually a case where Chinese companies are often better, like Dekang and Hangsen. Some American companies are taking LorAnn food flavorings and adding them to some nic base and selling it, even though not all food additives are safe to vape. There's about three food additives that are absolutely unsafe to vape (all butter flavors), and about a half dozen more that are problematic.
That's a terrible analogy. Just look at the German Autobahn and U.S. highways for reference. Despite being able to travel at any speed you desire on the Autobahn (with the minimum recommended speed being 120 MPH), it has still been declared as one of the safest highway systems in the world by the Federal Ministry of Transport and other independent researchers. Highways in the U.S., on the other hand, have repeatedly been declared some of the most dangerous in the world due to the strict laws and regulations imposed on their drivers.
Educate YOURSELF then, sitting at home wringing your hands and hoping that 'government regulation' is going to save you from nuclear waste in your ecig isn't going to help you, or any of us, one bit. Use Google, find out what is in your juice, then find out how much of a risk to your health those ingredients are and make a decision to whether you want to vape or smoke.
You might want to research that a bit more.
120MPH as a minimum recommended speed, lol.
Also I think you'll find that Germany has quite strict traffic laws - especially on the unlimited autobahns.
Anyway, back on topic - I think it's only natural to be concerned with the ingredients in the liquid we vape. I would highly recommend doing as much research as you can (from multiple sources) about the vendors before you buy from them. A lot of vendors are aware of their customers concerns and have posted online ingredient lists. Most will also happily answer questions about their products.
Even doing that, the main problem is that there is no information on the medium and long term effects of the inhalation of the ingredients we vape - so what is safe and what isn't is a question that cannot be fully answered.
However we are already discovering what could be unsafe and what could be safer... so you pay your money and take a chance to a point.
So at the end of the day you can mitigate your risk and vape instead of smoke, but there are no safety guarantees.
Even if you decide to DIY, you are still at the mercy of vendors and manufacturers so no system is completely without risk.
I've driven on it and 120 is what was recommended to me for the limitless sections. And the laws I remember were simple things such as not passing on the right (strictly enforced), maintaining a large following distance, among a few others. Granted, it's been several years since I was there, but it was nothing like U.S. highways and our restrictive laws.
My point in even responding was the OP used the analogy of not driving on the roads without rules and laws. You rebuffed that analogy by mentioning a traffic system that has rules and laws that are strictly enforced. It's kind of off-topic but I thought it quite funny.
Also 120 mph in not the officially recommended speed on the unlimited sections of the autobahns, it's 130KPH, which is about 80mph.
Excuse me while I remember when regulations and taxes prevented an accident.........
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I didn't know any recommendation was ever considered 'official' there, but nevertheless, I never stated it was to begin with. The rules I do remember being enforced were common sense and not excessively restrictive. I still think it was a bad analogy made by the OP.
I like you was worried about quality control. I agree with the above statement. There are companies out there that have quality control methods in place. You can usually find it on their home page or you can call them. I do not use any liquid that is not made in the USA. Although some US companies probably buy some ingredients from the Chinese. Jeez have you heard about Chinese quality control for other products? No Thank You!
I am not experienced enough to DYI because hopefully I wont be using it long term. Three months combustible free and that for me is something to talk about. It is still safer!
Either quit vaping or educate yourself. How is worrying going to help? There is tons of information the YOU can learn that will help you make the correct decisions. Rather you would have a Nanny state protect you? Look at that option, see if the track record impresses you.
This modern mania for interfering in others lives, usually under the guise of health and safety concerns, is highly irritating and counterproductive. Down with the nanny state.
I would suggest DIY Liquid so you can get the peace of mind what goes into your liquids. There are some pretty good Recipes on here that people are always willing to share.
I will never understand former smokers worrying about "what's in their vapor." Not trying to be rude but ... well if you look up what's in cigarette smoke, you can pretty much see what's NOT in vapor 
As someone else suggested, you can try DIY or unflavored. The flavors are the only ingredient that might raise a concern.
As someone else suggested, you can try DIY or unflavored. The flavors are the only ingredient that might raise a concern.
They certainly are not! Inhaling anything that's an oil can give you chemical pneumonia. Eliquids are comprised of propylene glycol and/or vegetable glycerine, which is a type of alcohol but not booze; nicotine in either PG and/or VG; and flavorings, which are always in water- or alcohol.
If you're concerned about germ contamination, remember that propylene glycol is a fairly potent germicide. If you're older than about 40 and were born in a hospital, undoubtedly your first breaths on this Earth were liberally laced with PG. It was widely used all over hospitals before the invention of micropore filters. I've been vaping a bit over three years, and I let potential converts who are clearly coming down with a respiratory illness take hits off my PVs. In three years, I have not have one single cold. Many other members of ECF report the same thing.
Most eliquid makers are meticulous with their manufacturing. But I suspect this stuff could be mixed on the floor of an unshoveled stable and it wouldn't matter much (except for the flavor, maybe).
About the only things that can go wrong are a) use of totally inappropriate chemicals and b) a mistake on the nicotine concentration. In the first case, you would almost certainly taste anything weird right away. HINT: if it doesn't taste right, don't vape it. In the second case, a few years ago, someone got some eliquid that hadn't been diluted to the labelled level. She knew it was much too strong after a couple of pulls, then she blew the whistle here immediately. The small company that made the mistake is virtually out of business and banned from ECF because of their mistake and their poor handling of the aftermath.
Bottom line, everything is a crap-shoot. Use common sense and don't rely on "regulation" to make you "safe."
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Have you never heard of food recalls or pharmaceutical recalls? What you're worried about is bound to happen with or without regulation.
Find a liquid company you trust and stick with them, or make your own.
If you're worried about ingredients that are supposed to be there, the most likely problem will be the flavoring (and don't think "all natural" means safe). DIY and go flavorless.
Short of that type of mistake at the nicotine distribution a mistake in mixing won't have drastic results. I figured it up once and you can be a full ml off in your measuring and it will only end up being 1-2mg in the mix of a 30ml bottle.
That mistake being caught by noticing a few puffs shows how safe even those kinds of mistakes are.
yeah why exactly dont we have "unshoveled stable manure" flavored eliquid yet?
guess nobody's got the balls to get their hands dirty. ill do it my own damn self
guess nobody's got the balls to get their hands dirty. ill do it my own damn self
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