How likely do you think it is that would be enforced? I'm not being sarcastic or snarky, I really wonder. And does that include 0 nic do you think?
Would you buy your teen a vape kit?
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How likely do you think it is that would be enforced? I'm not being sarcastic or snarky, I really wonder. And does that include 0 nic do you think?
If he is smoking then yes, if he is not then no.
Doesn't matter if he is 16 or 60.
Doesn't matter if he is 16 or 60.
First, no, I would not buy my teen a vape kit unless I found it to be absolutely necessary to prevent smoking. Second, I do find it funny that everyone wants to prevent kids from vaping when nearly every illegal and pharmaceutical substance is being sold in our middle and high schools. No one wants to focus on the real danger the children face. Kids today are much more likely to obtain and use "other" things than they are ecigarettes. So if it came down to making a choice between my kid becoming addicted to nicotine from ecigarettes or addicted one of those other things, then you can guess which one I would choose.
Best answer I can give is the same one I was given, when I was a teenager, and asked my mother: "When will I be old enough to smoke?"
Her answer: "When you're old enough to buy your own."
Her answer: "When you're old enough to buy your own."
im 21 so its hard to say since its hard for me to fathom being a father, but i would rather have my child vaping rather than smoking undoubtedly. but this brings up a different idea, if they tried smoking a few times and then you get them started on ecigs, whos to say that a few years after vaping when they become "bored" with it they wont start smoking to change things up. where as we have all started smoking and switched to vaping for that change.
You're 21, If you've smoked for 30 years you may have a different opinion...
I switched to vaping because I need help to quit the stink sticks, I wasn't about to go any pill that the side effects can cause a mind altering state, I saw what it did to my mother, and It wasn't very good. this was the best alternative for me. And it worked
I am working on cutting down my nic level, I may continue vaping for the rest of my life, I may not, but I do not smoke, and that's all that matters to me right now, I do have a 23 year old daughter, she hates smoking, she got her boyfriend to quit smoking and switch to cigalikes, She told me she tried a puff, I just shook my head and said to her, you don't smoke why do you want to even try vaping, But ultimately it is her decision... She's an adult now
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Simple answer... no. I would not purchase an e-cig for my minor kids under any circumstances.
I have 5 kids... 13,16,23,24 & 26. I did give e-cigs to my 23 & 24 year old sons within the last year to encourage them to quit smoking. One has quit both smoking and vaping. The other is now only vaping.
For those of you applying the justification that you started smoking as a teen then that leaves the door open for your children... In my opinion that's nonsense!! You can throw around the hypocritical baloney all day long... I don't have to enable my children to make the same mistakes I did at any age. In all honesty, I look at it as my responsibility to teach them not to make bad choices. Some family traditions such as smoking, drug or alcohol abuse do not have to be passed down to the next generation if you can avoid it... do it.
Once my kids turned 18, the decision was theirs as well as the expense. Didn't stop me from voicing my concerns. Yes, they called me a hypocrite to my face. But when I countered that my experience did provide me with first hand knowledge of the effects... so who better to hear it from than someone who knows darn well what's at play... They had no clever answer.
I have 5 kids... 13,16,23,24 & 26. I did give e-cigs to my 23 & 24 year old sons within the last year to encourage them to quit smoking. One has quit both smoking and vaping. The other is now only vaping.
For those of you applying the justification that you started smoking as a teen then that leaves the door open for your children... In my opinion that's nonsense!! You can throw around the hypocritical baloney all day long... I don't have to enable my children to make the same mistakes I did at any age. In all honesty, I look at it as my responsibility to teach them not to make bad choices. Some family traditions such as smoking, drug or alcohol abuse do not have to be passed down to the next generation if you can avoid it... do it.
Once my kids turned 18, the decision was theirs as well as the expense. Didn't stop me from voicing my concerns. Yes, they called me a hypocrite to my face. But when I countered that my experience did provide me with first hand knowledge of the effects... so who better to hear it from than someone who knows darn well what's at play... They had no clever answer.
As an adult who smoked for about 40 years before switching to dip and then Vapes and having raised two (now adult) children who never smoked I can say with all honesty that I would indeed encourage my children to vape if they were dead set on smoking.
My folks both smoked as did most adults back in the 50's and 60's and so I started sneaking smokes when I was 13-14 years old and smoked full time when I was 15. My folks tried everything in the book to get me to stop until I was "old enough to smoke" and none of it worked..I just got better at hiding it.
If I was put in the same situation as my parents (having a hard headed kid like me who was determined to smoke) I would not hesitate to recommend they switch to Vaping instead, and yes, I would buy them a starter kit to help them make the right decision.
My folks both smoked as did most adults back in the 50's and 60's and so I started sneaking smokes when I was 13-14 years old and smoked full time when I was 15. My folks tried everything in the book to get me to stop until I was "old enough to smoke" and none of it worked..I just got better at hiding it.
If I was put in the same situation as my parents (having a hard headed kid like me who was determined to smoke) I would not hesitate to recommend they switch to Vaping instead, and yes, I would buy them a starter kit to help them make the right decision.
I do not ascribe to the notion that vaping leads to smoking real cigs. I have yet to learn of ONE single person that has done that.
Out of my 4 children only one started smoking habitually but did so at age 20. I did get him a vape kit.
My daughter, who is 25, occasionally will smoke a cig socially with her friends who smoke. Literally like 1 a year. It is so rare that I would not call her a smoker. She will sometimes vape my e-cig if I have a new flavor like sour skittles or apple or Hawaiian Rainbow. But that is like one puff to taste the flavor.
I cannot say what I would have done if I discovered any of them smoking while under the age of 18. Except that I would discourage it and not buy them cigs.
Recently my 18 yo had his friend over (also 18) He did smoke but currently has an e-cig so I gave him a bunch of batteries, a charger, liquids and carto's to keep him supplied until he starts basic training.
I'd do everything in my power to convince my under 18 year old teenage child to not smoke or vape BUT if they were insistent that they were going to smoke no matter what I said or did, yes I certainly would make vaping available to them under the age of 18 with the goal of reducing their nicotine usage to vaping only o nic juice.
I'm well aware of the laws today in NYS, but my primary objective is to protect that teenage child and IF that child has proven that they are going to smoke no matter what I say or do (as we all know some children will do) I will not sit by and watch that underage child smoke for several years while they develop a strong addiction to smoking and potentially develop health problems from those years of smoking cigarettes.
I'm well aware of the laws today in NYS, but my primary objective is to protect that teenage child and IF that child has proven that they are going to smoke no matter what I say or do (as we all know some children will do) I will not sit by and watch that underage child smoke for several years while they develop a strong addiction to smoking and potentially develop health problems from those years of smoking cigarettes.
Would I buy my teen an e-cig? Absolutely not.
Thankfully, I dont have to deal with an out-of-control teen because I established who was the parent and who is the child a long time ago.
Thankfully, I dont have to deal with an out-of-control teen because I established who was the parent and who is the child a long time ago.
Having addicted to cigarettes for 21 years, I would never want my child to experience such a monkey on their back.
If they were interested in vaping because it's vaping, I would strongly discourage it. But not in a firm, put my foot down NO, but talk about it to find out what reasons they have to start vaping. Then work on talking through those obstacles. Being cool or wanting to try the different flavors can be a challenging conversation to dissuade a kid, but it can be done. Just focus on all the inconvenience that such a habit can bring and focus on the one that addresses their wanting to vape the most.
If my child was already caught smoking and wanted to know an alternative, I would switch them to vaping in a heart beat.
If they were interested in vaping because it's vaping, I would strongly discourage it. But not in a firm, put my foot down NO, but talk about it to find out what reasons they have to start vaping. Then work on talking through those obstacles. Being cool or wanting to try the different flavors can be a challenging conversation to dissuade a kid, but it can be done. Just focus on all the inconvenience that such a habit can bring and focus on the one that addresses their wanting to vape the most.
If my child was already caught smoking and wanted to know an alternative, I would switch them to vaping in a heart beat.
No... I'd ground them in perpetuity if they were smoking. And no, I wouldn't buy my child a kit if they wanted one jus' cuz. I'm a parent first and if it happens to be that we are friends...thats cool, but not necessary.
Then you obviously just don't get it, do you...
And thank you so much for your considered input.
And don't bother either... no patience or desire ...
Famous last words... LOL.
My folks had the same mindset. Boy were they ever fooled!!
Would I buy it for my teen?
No... BUT... If I absolutely knew for sure he/she were smoking I would accidently on purpose leave one of my extra/backups laying around... oh, say in their room along with a bottle of juice. I didn't buy THAT for them. It was an extra I had laying around, right?!
Yeah, lol. My parents were the boss too. I still have never sassed them, but I smoked at school and out and they never knew. So yeah... LoL. You have no idea what goes on when they are out of sight. We would like to think we did a good job and they know who the boss is... But that isn't how it always works. They will respect us in front of us....
I like you, your mentality and plus one to just about everything you said so far, because it's sensible and would make for a sensible parent.
I am a parent of a daughter that I could not keep from starting smoking at about 13 yrs of age, I've been trying to get her into vaping (she's of age) but if I would have found vaping sooner, I most definitely would have tried to get her to convert (!8 or not).
It's also sensible of you to refer to yourself, and teenager will be teenagers and will find ways, no matter how much you try to keep them from whatever.
And if you prohibit your child to do whatever and they tell you that they listened and never try and you believe it, then
Did your parents also establish they were the boss? My point is that whether they think your the boss or not, it doesn't matter. You being the strict bossy type will only result in them hiding their nasty habit.
Also, having an attitude of "my kid is an angel" is exactly what resulted in my parents not knowing I smoked for at least 5 years of a PAD habit. You have to change your mind-set completely or you will never know the truth behind what your kid is doing...
My son has long been old enough to buy his own smokes. He started stealing mine at 14. Grounding had no effect, nor did explaining the attached health problems. While I didn't outright buy him cigarettes I'm sure the money he got for mowing was used for them. We live in a tiny coal town so I'm sure he had to work hard to acquire them.
All that being said if ecigs existed at the time I would have used some his mowing money to fund his habit.
For his 25th birthday I bought him a hammer clone and some menthol juice and told him if I can quit after 29 years he can quit after 11.
All that being said if ecigs existed at the time I would have used some his mowing money to fund his habit.
For his 25th birthday I bought him a hammer clone and some menthol juice and told him if I can quit after 29 years he can quit after 11.
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